Fox News basic math via their graphics

HomerJS

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They mislead report you decide.

Did you know 6 million is about 1/3 of 7 million?

I thought the ACA was in a death spiral and would collapse on its own weight? Does the GOP need that much help from the "fair and balanced" "news" network??

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fixed-fox-news-embarrassing-obamacare-185834607.html
 

88keys

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Fox News gets has higher ratings because they are in the business of telling people what they want to hear in the same way that McDonald's is in business serving food that people want to eat.
 

PliotronX

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I am flabbergasted at how in day to day interactions a lot of people do not know what I mean precisely by a third or fifth. My math professors would puke.
 

mizzou

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pretty sure anyone who watches fox news approves of fox news reporting
 

thraashman

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Fox News gets has higher ratings because they are in the business of telling people what they want to hear in the same way that McDonald's is in business serving food that people want to eat.

Only difference is that McDonald's is healthy in comparison to Fox News.
 

Subyman

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Uhm, that's assuming the origin on that graph is zero. The graph is unmarked, so a person versed in mathematics would assume the origin is set above zero, not that the creator of the graph is stupid. ;)
 

JEDIYoda

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A little debunker icing on the late surging ACA cake: http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...#axzz2xbtnVghv
That debunked nothing....

Against all odds and expectations, enrollments in health plans qualified under the Affordable Care Act are surging Monday toward -- and maybe beyond -- the 7-million figure projected by the Congressional Budget Office before Oct. 1, when the open-enrollment period began. The deadline for starting enrollment applications for 2014 plans is midnight Monday.


The surge is creating a big problem for the "train wreck" narrative of Republican opponents of the ACA, who have been holding out hope for Obamacare's utter failure. So the excuse-making has begun.


http://www.latimes.com/business/hil...umbers-20140331,0,4488747.story#ixzz2xc6jtpSl
 

trenchfoot

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That debunked nothing....

Against all odds and expectations, enrollments in health plans qualified under the Affordable Care Act are surging Monday toward -- and maybe beyond -- the 7-million figure projected by the Congressional Budget Office before Oct. 1, when the open-enrollment period began. The deadline for starting enrollment applications for 2014 plans is midnight Monday.


The surge is creating a big problem for the "train wreck" narrative of Republican opponents of the ACA, who have been holding out hope for Obamacare's utter failure. So the excuse-making has begun.


http://www.latimes.com/business/hil...umbers-20140331,0,4488747.story#ixzz2xc6jtpSl

Ummm, I think you and I are in agreement. The dubunking I was referring to in the article is in reference to the excuses the Repubs have been coming up with to "kill the infant ACA in the crib" as it were. ;)

Or am I misunderstanding something here?
 

IGBT

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so how many of those people are actually paying their premium bills??
 

compuwiz1

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nobody knows shit until the truth comes out. Right now we don't know how many people have actually registered AND PAID. Until there are true facts on the table, liberals can keep spewing their sewage too. I think that it's important that ya all keep believing what the gooberment tells you to believe. ;)
 

senseamp

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They'll go back to the regular scale if Obamacare enrollments top the target :)
 

sportage

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Watching last minute signups on the news, one guy with his little girl said he was doing it for his child (getting insurance). Very moving.
Some people can gripe about the choice of having vs not as ones personal choice.
But how about the kids? Do they not deserve healthcare?
And again people... the ER is NOT healthcare.
Healthcare is when that little girl needs ongoing treatment and or medications.
Something that the un-insured WILL NOT and CAN NOT get thru the ER on an ongoing basis.

As I tried to explain to my sister who has no insurance after her husband suddenly died a year ago, and their employer insurance also ended that same day, I tell my sister Obamacare in itself IS NOT healthcare insurance.
Obama did not nor has not created his own branded insurance company.
Sorry Fox News...

Obamacare is like a book where Obamacare being the cover on that book.
Insurance providers are the meat of the story between the front and back cover.
The cover is not the story. What is inside between the cover would be the story.
Obamacare is simply the cover. Healthcare is the story inside.

Exchanges are insurance companies that have opted into a pool, of groups, where customers get insurance from the company just like before we had Obamacare.
The difference now is that Obamacare simply directs or points the customer to the possible insurance company provider options.
Some larger states have many providers included in those options.
Other smaller states may have only a few or maybe only one provider as a choice.
Then you have some republican controlled states where their ass-hole republican governors deny their citizens healthcare altogether. Simply because ass-hole is the republican way.

Again, Obamacare simply points the consumer to the pooled providers.
Obamacare in itself is not an insurance company.

Other than grouping providers into the pool of providers, Obamacare's only other function was to change some of the rules to eliminate the bad practices of insurance for profit i.e. the preexisting exclusion, the lifetime cap limit, and change how money is spent by providers i.e. providing actual healthcare vs money spent on advertisement.
THAT is Obamacare plain and simple.

Not exactly earth shattering considering we still live in this "healthcare for profit" system.
Obamacare simply pooled providers together as offering choice to the non-insured needing insurance, and those insured under junk policies with massive amounts of fine print that cover very little. And will drop the insured like a hot potato if and when serious illness should occur.
Thats all...

So again, why are republicans so hell bent against THAT?
And why are the billionaire's spending their billions to deceive those seeking insurance?
And why does Fox News contribute to this deception?
And why would anyone believe an individual would prefer NOT to have health insurance vs having insurance?
That thinking is not logical.
Try as republicans will, to deceive those non-insured that it is better to be un-insured than insured.

The real proof Obamacare was needed and is working are those jamming the website to sign up, and all the millions that have signed up, and the millions who have seen thru all the highly funded republican bull shit.
And millions have realized exactly that, seeing thru all the republican billion dollar funded BULL SHIT.

Now, lets just hope those millions of voters turn out this November to vote every one of them damn republicans back to that bullshit land they devolved from.
 

Matt1970

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So again, why are republicans so hell bent against THAT?
And why are the billionaire's spending their billions to deceive those seeking insurance?
And why does Fox News contribute to this deception?
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Right.....Obamacare has been the great lie of the last however many years yet it's the Billionairs and Fox News that are the deceivers.

The real proof Obamacare was needed and is working are those jamming the website to sign up, and all the millions that have signed up, and the millions who have seen thru all the highly funded republican bull shit.
And millions have realized exactly that, seeing thru all the republican billion dollar funded BULL SHIT.

Now, lets just hope those millions of voters turn out this November to vote every one of them damn republicans back to that bullshit land they devolved from.

Compliance with a law is not proof of the need for that law.
 

cyclohexane

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Right.....Obamacare has been the great lie of the last however many years yet it's the Billionairs and Fox News that are the deceivers.



Compliance with a law is not proof of the need for that law.

Thread is not about Obamacare. This is about pointing out the misleading graphics on FoxNews.
 

dank69

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This is why I love this place: I don't need to listen to conservative talk to find out their propaganda angle for the day, it's parroted for my convenience.
And immediately after the posts telling us this is exactly what they are going to say. GOP multiple moves behind as always.
 

Newell Steamer

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This just proves and supports how I once heard a guy talk about how he knows a guy that once knew a family that lived next to someone else that was on a bus a while back and listened to a conversation about ACA.

It was a crowded bus, and a stop was being announced, but, this backs my belief that ACA is indeed NOT good for this country.
 

dank69

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Uhm, that's assuming the origin on that graph is zero. The graph is unmarked, so a person versed in mathematics would assume the origin is set above zero, not that the creator of the graph is stupid. ;)
The implication isn't that the creator of the graph is stupid, it is that the creator of the graph is intentionally misrepresenting data to make things look worse than they really are. Your avreage Fox News viewer doesn't know shit about graph origins and failed pre-algebra.