Fox is so LAME!!!!!!

[Codewiz]

Looks like they will end up cancelling Firefly. link

I really liked that show. It had some good action and comedy at the same time. Fox just doesn't know how to stick with a show. Fox just cancels anything that isn't a monster success from day one. Now there is only one show left on fox that I watch which is the Simpsons. I haven't even found this seasons Simpsons all that funny.

I personally think Fastlane is an extremely lame show. I have watched it twice and was bored to death. It will die a slow death on Friday nights too. Especially since it's target audience is the younger crowd who will be out on the town on a Friday night. Hell I usually stayed home on friday just to check out Firefly. I would then go out on Saturday night instead.

First Family Guy, then Futurama, and now Firefly. Fox just plain sucks.....

 

[pulse8]

ummmm...

They haven't cancelled the show. They are going on hiatus. There's a difference.

They are going to heavily promote the 2 hour pilot and then reair it and see if the show gets better ratings. They recognize it's a good show, but it seems that people aren't aware of it.

Did you actually read the article?

Edit: And just for some more info, Family Guy and Futurama were both on for a long while before they got booted. Felicity, which was on WB, would go on hiatus just about every season and it lasted 4 or 5 years.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: pulse8
ummmm...

They haven't cancelled the show. They are going on hiatus. There's a difference.

They are going to heavily promote the 2 hour pilot and then reair it and see if the show gets better ratings. They recognize it's a good show, but it seems that people aren't aware of it.

Did you actually read the article?

Edit: And just for some more info, Family Guy and Futurama were both on for a long while before they got booted.

Yeah I read the article but have you not seen what Fox does to shows? Family Guy and Futurama had their schedule changed about a million times. You never knew when the show was going to be on. Firefly isn't technically cancelled yet but it isn't going to survive because if they do make more episodes the day will move and they will lose viewers. They need to learn to leave shows alone for an entire season instead of this merry go round game they play. After the first season of Futurama I hardly ever watched an episode because they changed the lineup too much.

How is promoting the 2 hour pilot going to help? The current watchers aren't going to watch it unless they missed it. So they will already lose those viewers like myself. They promoted the crap out of it the first time around. People just have to give the show a try and I don't think promoting a 2 hour long show is going to help.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: pulse8
ummmm...

They haven't cancelled the show. They are going on hiatus. There's a difference.

They are going to heavily promote the 2 hour pilot and then reair it and see if the show gets better ratings. They recognize it's a good show, but it seems that people aren't aware of it.

Did you actually read the article?

Edit: And just for some more info, Family Guy and Futurama were both on for a long while before they got booted.

Yeah I read the article but have you not seen what Fox does to shows? Family Guy and Futurama had their schedule changed about a million times. You never knew when the show was going to be on. Firefly isn't technically cancelled yet but it isn't going to survive because if they do make more episodes the day will move and they will lose viewers. They need to learn to leave shows alone for an entire season instead of this merry go round game they play. After the first season of Futurama I hardly ever watched an episode because they changed the lineup too much.

How is promoting the 2 hour pilot going to help? The current watchers aren't going to watch it unless they missed it. So they will already lose those viewers like myself. They promoted the crap out of it the first time around. People just have to give the show a try and I don't think promoting a 2 hour long show is going to help.

Fox is run by guys who've been in that business for a lot longer than I've probably been alive, so I think they know more about running their network than you or I. If you don't like it, then stop watching the network. If a show doesn't get any ratings, then they can't sell the advertising. If they can't sell the advertising, then they can't make any money.

They'd probably make more money in advertising by reairing old episodes of the Simpsons than some show that nobody's watching. It's not just about whether or not a show is good or not. People have to watch it, too. If Fox is changing the nights of their shows, they probably have a good reason and it's probably that not a lot of people are watching it on the nights they put it on.

They aren't idiots, they're business men. They can't keep a show on the air, and lose money on it, just to satisfy a small group of people. That's just silly.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: pulse8
ummmm...

They haven't cancelled the show. They are going on hiatus. There's a difference.

They are going to heavily promote the 2 hour pilot and then reair it and see if the show gets better ratings. They recognize it's a good show, but it seems that people aren't aware of it.

Did you actually read the article?

Edit: And just for some more info, Family Guy and Futurama were both on for a long while before they got booted.

Yeah I read the article but have you not seen what Fox does to shows? Family Guy and Futurama had their schedule changed about a million times. You never knew when the show was going to be on. Firefly isn't technically cancelled yet but it isn't going to survive because if they do make more episodes the day will move and they will lose viewers. They need to learn to leave shows alone for an entire season instead of this merry go round game they play. After the first season of Futurama I hardly ever watched an episode because they changed the lineup too much.

How is promoting the 2 hour pilot going to help? The current watchers aren't going to watch it unless they missed it. So they will already lose those viewers like myself. They promoted the crap out of it the first time around. People just have to give the show a try and I don't think promoting a 2 hour long show is going to help.

Fox is run by guys who've been in that business for a lot longer than I've probably been alive, so I think they know more about running their network than you or I. If you don't like it, then stop watching the network. If a show doesn't get any ratings, then they can't sell the advertising. If they can't sell the advertising, then they can't make any money.

They'd probably make more money in advertising by reairing old episodes of the Simpsons than some show that nobody's watching. It's not just about whether or not a show is good or not. People have to watch it, too. If Fox is changing the nights of their shows, they probably have a good reason and it's probably that not a lot of people are watching it on the nights they put it on.

They aren't idiots, they're business men. They can't keep a show on the air, and lose money on it, just to satisfy a small group of people. That's just silly.

Well lets see.....X-files which became one of their BIGGEST hits ever came in at 102 out of 118 shows it's first season. If they had decided to screw around with it then it would have bombed too. Firefly might not even get a true first season.

And I guess you think that ABC are just brillant with their choices too since they have been doing it longer than me. I can't remember when ABC has actually had a good show on. Alias is the best thing they have had in years......

Firefly is coming in consistantly better than X-Files every did the first season but of course you think that Fox is infinitely wiser than everyone else since they have been doing this for so long. There is a reason for Fox's lower ratings the past year or two. They continue to make the same mistakes....

 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: pulse8
ummmm...

They haven't cancelled the show. They are going on hiatus. There's a difference.

They are going to heavily promote the 2 hour pilot and then reair it and see if the show gets better ratings. They recognize it's a good show, but it seems that people aren't aware of it.

Did you actually read the article?

Edit: And just for some more info, Family Guy and Futurama were both on for a long while before they got booted.

Yeah I read the article but have you not seen what Fox does to shows? Family Guy and Futurama had their schedule changed about a million times. You never knew when the show was going to be on. Firefly isn't technically cancelled yet but it isn't going to survive because if they do make more episodes the day will move and they will lose viewers. They need to learn to leave shows alone for an entire season instead of this merry go round game they play. After the first season of Futurama I hardly ever watched an episode because they changed the lineup too much.

How is promoting the 2 hour pilot going to help? The current watchers aren't going to watch it unless they missed it. So they will already lose those viewers like myself. They promoted the crap out of it the first time around. People just have to give the show a try and I don't think promoting a 2 hour long show is going to help.

Fox is run by guys who've been in that business for a lot longer than I've probably been alive, so I think they know more about running their network than you or I. If you don't like it, then stop watching the network. If a show doesn't get any ratings, then they can't sell the advertising. If they can't sell the advertising, then they can't make any money.

They'd probably make more money in advertising by reairing old episodes of the Simpsons than some show that nobody's watching. It's not just about whether or not a show is good or not. People have to watch it, too. If Fox is changing the nights of their shows, they probably have a good reason and it's probably that not a lot of people are watching it on the nights they put it on.

They aren't idiots, they're business men. They can't keep a show on the air, and lose money on it, just to satisfy a small group of people. That's just silly.

Well lets see.....X-files which became one of their BIGGEST hits ever came in at 102 out of 118 shows it's first season. If they had decided to screw around with it then it would have bombed too. Firefly might not even get a true first season.

And I guess you think that ABC are just brillant with their choices too since they have been doing it longer than me. I can't remember when ABC has actually had a good show on. Alias is the best thing they have had in years......

Firefly is coming in consistantly better than X-Files every did the first season but of course you think that Fox is infinitely wiser than everyone else since they have been doing this for so long. There is a reason for Fox's lower ratings the past year or two. They continue to make the same mistakes....

I didn't say the guys at Fox knew more than everyone else, just more than you. As for ABC, they've had The Practice on for a while which is a good show.

Let's see what other shows they have:

The Drew Carey Show
The Bachelor
NYPD Blue
Who Wants To Be A Millionare?
20/20
Nightline
Primetime
Good Morning America

I'd say that's a pretty solid list of shows they've had in their lineup for a long while now, but this thread isn't about ABC.

I'm also not saying that every network is brilliant with all of their show choices because they've been in the business longer than I have. I'm merely saying that chances are, they know more about how to run their network than you or I do. If Ted Turner came in and suddenly thought he could do your job, you'd probably laugh at him.

This kind of stuff goes on EVERY season and people continue to complain about it. At least a half dozen shows go off the air after their first season and this show isn't even going off the air.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: pulse8
ummmm...

They haven't cancelled the show. They are going on hiatus. There's a difference.

They are going to heavily promote the 2 hour pilot and then reair it and see if the show gets better ratings. They recognize it's a good show, but it seems that people aren't aware of it.

Did you actually read the article?

Edit: And just for some more info, Family Guy and Futurama were both on for a long while before they got booted.

Yeah I read the article but have you not seen what Fox does to shows? Family Guy and Futurama had their schedule changed about a million times. You never knew when the show was going to be on. Firefly isn't technically cancelled yet but it isn't going to survive because if they do make more episodes the day will move and they will lose viewers. They need to learn to leave shows alone for an entire season instead of this merry go round game they play. After the first season of Futurama I hardly ever watched an episode because they changed the lineup too much.

How is promoting the 2 hour pilot going to help? The current watchers aren't going to watch it unless they missed it. So they will already lose those viewers like myself. They promoted the crap out of it the first time around. People just have to give the show a try and I don't think promoting a 2 hour long show is going to help.

Fox is run by guys who've been in that business for a lot longer than I've probably been alive, so I think they know more about running their network than you or I. If you don't like it, then stop watching the network. If a show doesn't get any ratings, then they can't sell the advertising. If they can't sell the advertising, then they can't make any money.

They'd probably make more money in advertising by reairing old episodes of the Simpsons than some show that nobody's watching. It's not just about whether or not a show is good or not. People have to watch it, too. If Fox is changing the nights of their shows, they probably have a good reason and it's probably that not a lot of people are watching it on the nights they put it on.

They aren't idiots, they're business men. They can't keep a show on the air, and lose money on it, just to satisfy a small group of people. That's just silly.

Well lets see.....X-files which became one of their BIGGEST hits ever came in at 102 out of 118 shows it's first season. If they had decided to screw around with it then it would have bombed too. Firefly might not even get a true first season.

And I guess you think that ABC are just brillant with their choices too since they have been doing it longer than me. I can't remember when ABC has actually had a good show on. Alias is the best thing they have had in years......

Firefly is coming in consistantly better than X-Files every did the first season but of course you think that Fox is infinitely wiser than everyone else since they have been doing this for so long. There is a reason for Fox's lower ratings the past year or two. They continue to make the same mistakes....

I didn't say the guys at Fox knew more than everyone else, just more than you. As for ABC, they've had The Practice on for a while which is a good show.

Let's see what other shows they have:

The Drew Carey Show
The Bachelor
NYPD Blue
Who Wants To Be A Millionare?
20/20
Nightline
Primetime
Good Morning America

I'd say that's a pretty solid list of shows they've had in their lineup for a long while now, but this thread isn't about ABC.

I'm also not saying that every network is brilliant with all of their show choices because they've been in the business longer than I have. I'm merely saying that chances are, they know more about how to run their network than you or I do. If Ted Turner came in and suddenly thought he could do your job, you'd probably laugh at him.

This kind of stuff goes on EVERY season and people continue to complain about it. At least a half dozen shows go off the air after their first season and this show isn't even going off the air.

My point was that just because they have done it a while doesn't mean they don't make really dumb choices. I feel they are making one as with Futurama and Family Guy. I hope Ted Turner could do my job I am an out of work Software Engineer that is selling shoes to make ends meet

As for ABC, I was talking more about sitcoms as shows, not news shows. The reason I mentioned ABC is because they are usually far behind NBC and CBS on sitcoms. I like very many shows at all so when a show I like gets cancelled for a reason that makes no sense, it makes me mad.

The difference with Fox now and 13 years ago is simply that Fox was not on top in any ratings 13 years ago really. The simpsons were their bread and butter. They had nothing else so they would let shows build and audience. They are no longer to let that happen. They want instant success not realizing that isn't how they go to where they are now.

BTW: I totally understand that money is what pushes the industry but I think quality shows should also have something to do with it. I also know my opinion makes no difference. I am just fed up with Fox not keeping quality shows that do decent and would probably do well if left alone.

 

[Hamburgerpimp]

I thought you meant Rick Fox

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
I thought you meant Rick Fox

LOL well he is too

Of course I hate the lakers so I am indeed biased against them. But with Shaq being out for the first games, it showed what I always believed. All the players on that team are overrated(excluding Kobe). They play well because everyone has to defend Shaq and Kobe so they get open shots all day long because of the double teams. Of course this is all for another thread