And here's Fern with the false equivalence. Give me a break. Fox doesn't have any real shows period.Yeah, I saw it. It did look like a campaign ad.
But what's new?
Watch Sean Hannity and it's 60 minutes of all Obama and why you shouldn't vote for him. Then watch Chris Matthews, it's 60 minutes about Romney and why you shouldn't vote for him.
There ARE real news shows out there. But Fox and Friends isn't one. Neither are Matthews or Hannity.
Except for the fact that it was full of lies:
I bet what happened was that the fox execs responsible were basically on cruise control, basically rubber stamping any anti-obama segment without giving much thought to it. Then it became obvious to everyone that even by Fox News' own shitty standards, they stepped over the line and now they're trying to pin this on some low level lackey.Fox News’ Executive Vice President of Programming, Bill Shine, tells Yahoo News, “The package that aired on ‘Fox & Friends’ was created by an associate producer and was not authorized at the senior executive level of the network.”
Of course it was full of lies, duh, its the media.Except for the fact that it was full of lies:
Pretty easy to take stats flash them on a screen and imply Obama is at fault without discussing the facts behind stats, which makes this nothing but a propaganda video.
Can you provide evidence that the stated 'facts' were incorrect? Serious question.Do you mean that it feels truthy?
I don't have to provide the evidence, as Phokus already did:Can you provide evidence that the stated 'facts' were incorrect? Serious question.
And I've seen plenty of cases on other networks where they spend several minutes on a Dem and then show maybe 10-30 seconds on 'stock footage' on the Rep. All mainstream media is biased.
Fox has 2 news shows. Shep Smith and Bret Baier (sp?) are both news shows. The Baier program does have about about 15 - 20 minutes of a round table discussion with editorial content.And here's Fern with the false equivalence. Give me a break. Fox doesn't have any real shows period.
Do you guys actually read the crap you post? No counter facts were presented, only excuses for the accurate facts.I don't have to provide the evidence, as Phokus already did:
He's not a foaming lunatic, but he's pretty solidly left. He'd fit in at ABC/CBS/CNN/NBC - probably not at MCNBC, he could be the token conservative there. Imagine, say, Woolfe, surrounded by Spideys. Or, well, me.He's considered a big liberal?
He IS an entertaining, no-bullshit guy. Lots of liberals are. Being liberal doesn't have to make one a foaming idiot. YOU are liberal; I don't consider you bad. We all have our biases and beliefs, and classical liberalism is a beautiful belief system.Interesting. The admittedly few times I've watched the whole hour with him he basically struck me as an entertaining guy and alternately a no-bullshit guy.
But after a quick poke around the interwebs it seems either he changed, or his audience did after Katrina. Interesting to me that there's an event tied to this perception change.