Four Killed in Israeli Truck Attack

[MrSquished]

Hamas took responsibility

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/08/middleeast/jerusalem-vehicle-attack/index.html

"A truck plowed into a group of soldiers in Jerusalem, killing four people and injuring at least 13, Israel's emergency services said Sunday.

Three of the four killed were female soldiers, Israeli Education Minister Neftali Bennett said. The fourth person killed was a young man, but it was not immediately clear whether he was a soldier.
All of the slain victims were in their 20s.

"A group had gotten off the bus and were getting organized with their bags when the terrorist took the opportunity, ramming his truck into the group," Israel Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.

"Then he in fact reversed and tried to ram them again until shots were fired, and the terrorist was shot and killed at the scene."

 

[FIVR]

What do they expect when the prime minister is talking about pardoning a soldier caught on video executing a Palestinian? Oh, and now they're talking about creating a blanket immunity law (a la Barbarossa Decree) for Israeli soldiers in the Palestinian Territories?

By the way I would point out that attacks like this is exactly what Israel wants. It justifies their actions further, it was soldiers instead of civilians/children that were targeted, and it does not impede their lives in any real way. Israel can go on for eternity enduring weak, useless attacks like these... which is exactly the point of leaving the palestinians in perpetual poverty and political irrelevance instead of giving them a "state" where they can actually prosper. Israel wants these attacks. The thing they absolutely don't want is to negotiate with anyone which is why they are with divesting their funding from the UN.

 

[Jhhnn]

So when will the IAF blast the shit out of Gaza in retaliation?

 

[Sinsear]

Religion of peace.

 

[raildogg]

So when will the IAF blast the shit out of Gaza in retaliation?

They didn't really need reasons before to annihilate the Palestinians so it really shouldn't matter.

But we all need to ask this question: Whenever the so-called terrorist attacks happen, who does it benefit?

I think the answer to this question is pretty obvious.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

ISIS claimed it, not Hamas.

And targetting soldiers is a lot better than targetting civilians imo, no matter which side is attacking.

 

[desura]

The reason why a two state solution will never really happen is because if there were a Palestinian state, it would quickly balloon to a population of like 8 million, which is obviously unsustainable on that land mass. They would then import weapons using official sovereignty and undertake a reconquest of Israel.

And since Palestinians have been the victim for so long, Israel would be hindered in their attempts at interfering with official sovereignty to prevent acquisition of weapons.

Better to have it as a distant possibility requiring a large scale change of heart by the Palestinians which is plausible, but highly unlikely.

If you look up the Second Intifada, and among other things the suicide bombing of this nightclub, eh, the Palestinians are a tainted cause as a result of their violence in the second intifada.

 

[Jhhnn]

They would then import weapons using official sovereignty and undertake a reconquest of Israel.

Speculative hysteria.

 

[Jhhnn]

They didn't really need reasons before to annihilate the Palestinians so it really shouldn't matter.

They just need excuses.

 

[desura]

Speculative hysteria.

I've heard it from a number of Israelis. It makes logical sense. There are ten million or so descendants of Palestinian refugees and if half moved to a recognized state of Palestine, you have like 8 million people. The entire territory supported a million people at the turn of the century, so 8 million on 22% is a huge cramming.

 

[Atreus21]

The reason why a two state solution will never really happen is because if there were a Palestinian state, it would quickly balloon to a population of like 8 million, which is obviously unsustainable on that land mass. They would then import weapons using official sovereignty and undertake a reconquest of Israel.

And since Palestinians have been the victim for so long, Israel would be hindered in their attempts at interfering with official sovereignty to prevent acquisition of weapons.

Better to have it as a distant possibility requiring a large scale change of heart by the Palestinians which is plausible, but highly unlikely.

If you look up the Second Intifada, and among other things the suicide bombing of this nightclub, eh, the Palestinians are a tainted cause as a result of their violence in the second intifada.

The reason a two state solution will never happen is because it comes at the cost of recognizing Israel's right to exist.

 

[raildogg]

It is weird that the supposed footage was from a CCTV but yet it is moving. What kind of CCTV footage moves around a bit?

 

[desura]

The reason a two state solution will never happen is because it comes at the cost of recognizing Israel's right to exist.

Well, basically it requires the Palestinians to recognize that the Jews' conquest of Palestine is legitimate, despite their own dispossession. They have good reason to not want to recognize this, but still, this attitude is why lasting peace is impossible.

I think the Palestinian cause has been so twisted through the decades. It might have had some good legitimacy pre-Oslo and pre-Second Intifada, but since the Second Intifada it really has gone off course. The best thing probably is to just buy them out, which is possible. It would be better for Israel to take a one-time $50 billion hit, which they can afford, than have this drag out for another thirty years.

 

[Roflmouth]

What do they expect when the prime minister is talking about pardoning a soldier caught on video executing a Palestinian? Oh, and now they're talking about creating a blanket immunity law (a la Barbarossa Decree) for Israeli soldiers in the Palestinian Territories?

By the way I would point out that attacks like this is exactly what Israel wants. It justifies their actions further, it was soldiers instead of civilians/children that were targeted, and it does not impede their lives in any real way. Israel can go on for eternity enduring weak, useless attacks like these... which is exactly the point of leaving the palestinians in perpetual poverty and political irrelevance instead of giving them a "state" where they can actually prosper. Israel wants these attacks. The thing they absolutely don't want is to negotiate with anyone which is why they are with divesting their funding from the UN.

Any other excuses you'd like to make for the Muslim terrorist scum making life a living hell for those in the Middle East, or are you done for the day?

 

[momeNt]

Civilian shot and killed the terrorist.

Eytan Rund, a tour guide who said he shot the attacker Sunday, said the many soldiers in the area were slow to respond. He said he believed the 'hesitation' was connected to last week's verdict which saw an Israeli soldier who fatally shot a Palestinian attacker convicted of manslaughter

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-15-pedestrians-Jerusalem.html#ixzz4VOWoefU7
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I believe czech republic is working on passing a law that will allow regular citizens to shoot terrorists if police are not present. That's good news, empowering the every day citizen to become part of the war on terror.

 

[FIVR]

#EnlistTheChildren

 

[momeNt]

#EnlistTheChildren

Would you rather the civilian who shot and killed the terrorist be prosecuted and forced to prove his innocence and/or provide a legal defense by way of proving the terrorist was not just some drunk truck driver thinking he drove over some traffic cones?

How is your post productive?

 

[desura]

Would you rather the civilian who shot and killed the terrorist be prosecuted and forced to prove his innocence and/or provide a legal defense by way of proving the terrorist was not just some drunk truck driver thinking he drove over some traffic cones?

How is your post productive?

Palestinian sympathizers will excuse everything the Palestinians do. While technically true, it is also very small minded and it doesn't show a way forward.

 

[raildogg]

Any other excuses you'd like to make for the Muslim terrorist scum making life a living hell for those in the Middle East, or are you done for the day?

The Muslim lives are made hell because of the Western agendas. The so-called Muslim terrorists (that the media says exist in large numbers, LOL) have a right to defend their homelands. By the way, I don't really believe everything we are told about these so-called Muslim terrorists. A lot of the nonsense the media spews doesn't really make sense.

#EnlistTheChildren

Yes but they want other people to enlist while they cheer on war against innocent people.

Palestinian sympathizers will excuse everything the Palestinians do. While technically true, it is also very small minded and it doesn't show a way forward.

Palestinian sympathizers? I don't think there are many from what I can see. Day and night, Israeli propaganda mixed with American propaganda demonizes the Palestinians.

Look at the numbers. Israel and America kill far more Muslims than the Muslims can ever, ever, ever kill Israelis and Americans.

No killing is excusable.