Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama?s aunt

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CitizenKain

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Why do people argue with Duwelon? He can't enough to understand any answers that aren't talking points delivered directly from FreeRepublic.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Why do people argue with Duwelon? He can't enough to understand any answers that aren't talking points delivered directly from FreeRepublic.


Think, Breath, Type.....
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Pointless Obama bashing thread # 376... I rate this one a 3 out of a possible 10.

NEXT!

I don't see it as bashing but why do you think it is pointless?

Pointless because there is no point. So, he has some relatives that are broke. Who doesnt, and how does this matter?

He wants to run a country but he can't even keep his family safe. The truth is he doesn't care 2 shits about his aunt or his brother, what makes you think he cares about the average citizen? He's just not the type of character that the US needs. You have to admit it reflects badly on him.

Following that logic, was Bill Clinton unsuitable to lead the United States because of what happened to his brother Roger Clinton? Was he not the type of character the United States needed?
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
i should have closed this thread as soon as i saw duwelon

Why? And miss out on all the unfocused frothy rightwinger rage?:laugh:
 

Infohawk

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What do you want me to do? Vote for McCain? That guy bailed on his wife after she had a car accident. Obama's not perfect, but McCain is worse. Buh-bye.
 

Mxylplyx

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I personally think the story is stupid. Just because Obama has a poor aunt doesnt mean he should be obligated to pay her bills. She could be a worthless piece of shit not worthy of a handout as far as we know. Should Obama get her a cushy government job or something? I'd like to see the responses if that came to light.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Barack is simply demonstrating that there are no free hand-outs in life and that you have to work hard to achieve the American dream. Isn't that what you Republicrats are always blathering on about?

Except that he doesn't actually believe there are no free hand-outs. He's in the party of free hand outs. He's promising handouts to (at least what, 75+% of Americans?) in tax "cuts" that he promises will be made up for by taxing the evil corporations.

He's doing nothing more than buying votes, worse, he's doing it at the expense of the country. George the security guard might get a tiny break, but how many people will the company have to lay off or not hire because they can't afford to all of a sudden due to taxes?

Obama and the left is playing politics with people's lives, and it's sickening to watch.

So since you don't support handouts or tax cuts, I imagine you are voting nonindependent?

I didn't say I don't support tax cuts. I just don't support Obama's tax cuts designed to put strain on producers and take less strain away from consumers.

For the record, i'm in favor of some sort of flat tax, or fair tax.

Back on topic, why can't his aunt talk to the press until after the election?

How exactly are his tax cuts "handouts?"

This entire article is a farce. The author wants us to believe that he knows best about Obama's family and his family relations instead of recognizing that families can have all sorts of bizarre and strange dynamics to them. So, who knows best about Obama's family, him or the author? And the better question is why is this anyone's business? The media is prying far into someone's life for no real reason besides the hope that if they fling enough shit at the wall, something will stick.

We have no insights as to ANY of his family dynamics and this article is pure speculative crap.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Barack is simply demonstrating that there are no free hand-outs in life and that you have to work hard to achieve the American dream. Isn't that what you Republicrats are always blathering on about?

Except that he doesn't actually believe there are no free hand-outs. He's in the party of free hand outs. He's promising handouts to (at least what, 75+% of Americans?) in tax "cuts" that he promises will be made up for by taxing the evil corporations.

He's doing nothing more than buying votes, worse, he's doing it at the expense of the country. George the security guard might get a tiny break, but how many people will the company have to lay off or not hire because they can't afford to all of a sudden due to taxes?

Obama and the left is playing politics with people's lives, and it's sickening to watch.

First, remember that Obama is a candidate for President of the United States, not supreme dictator of North America. While he and McCain are out preaching for tax cuts, many within the Senate are very reluctant to pass ANY tax cuts whatsoever right now. That means that, likely, Obama's tax plan will not simply become law.

Even if it did, he wants to keep the same tax level or lower it for people making less than $200,000 dollars. That would put HIS taxes very much in line with the "handouts" of the 1990s, which, if I recall, nobody had a problem with. Second, most small businesses won't be affected because they don't take in that much money. Third, Obama doesn't want to raise corporate taxes, he just doesn't want to give billions of tax breaks to big companies. Instead, he wants to give tax credits to companies who hire new individuals or keep jobs in the US.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
From the OP's link:

The Obama campaign was repeatedly approached for comment yesterday but had not responded at the time of going to press. It is not clear whether Mr Obama has been in touch with his African relatives living in the US, or even whether he is aware that they are on US soil.

So no one has considered the possibility that these people moved to the U.S. and never informed Obama?

Crickets? Yes, the crickets are deafening.

Is Obama responsible for tracking his extended family wherever they may roam? Is he responsible for giving them free hand outs? Why can't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps like good lil' immigrants? Self responsibility?

Anyone? Bueller?
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: OrByte

man, ive got at least 3 or 4 cousins in and out of prison. An uncle living on the blvd 5 minutes from where I live. Ive got a cousin with 7 kids. Ive got an uncle who is a child molester, learned behavior from my grandfather who did the same to 3 of my aunts.

My point is, no one can tell anyone shit when it comes to family matters. And furthermore, no one really understands anyone elses family unless you've lived in their shoes and gone through the drama.

You guys are pathetic to draw your conclusions based upon where Obama's aunt lives and the fact that she is poor. None of us know anything about the circumstances that lead her to live there and the reasons why she is there to this day.


But go ahead, keep jumping to your conclusions. Seriously I think the OP is projecting some family bitterness in this thread...but that is about as diversionary as I will get.

<<<<< intellectually devoid

Notice no wingnut OP is touching my point with a 10' pole.

can we confirm that the OP is experiencing an election induced meltdown?
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: OrByte

man, ive got at least 3 or 4 cousins in and out of prison. An uncle living on the blvd 5 minutes from where I live. Ive got a cousin with 7 kids. Ive got an uncle who is a child molester, learned behavior from my grandfather who did the same to 3 of my aunts.

My point is, no one can tell anyone shit when it comes to family matters. And furthermore, no one really understands anyone elses family unless you've lived in their shoes and gone through the drama.

You guys are pathetic to draw your conclusions based upon where Obama's aunt lives and the fact that she is poor. None of us know anything about the circumstances that lead her to live there and the reasons why she is there to this day.


But go ahead, keep jumping to your conclusions. Seriously I think the OP is projecting some family bitterness in this thread...but that is about as diversionary as I will get.

<<<<< intellectually devoid

Notice no wingnut OP is touching my point with a 10' pole.

can we confirm that the OP is experiencing an election induced meltdown?

You nailed it. I missed your post earlier and basically repeated the same thing above

:thumbsup:
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles

You nailed it. I missed your post earlier and basically repeated the same thing above

:thumbsup:
Thank you, this is really fvcking simple stuff people. We can all take a look at the bum sitting on the curbside and draw conclusions about what it is that made him be the person he is today but NONE of us know the factual circumstances.

someone can draw the conclusion that he is a drunk living on the street

while others can draw the conclusion that he is mentally ill and unable to buy meds to keep a steady job.

bottom line is, you look like an Fn idiot drawing conclusions (and jumping to conclusions in the case of the OP) based on so little evidence with respect to this story.

If I'm having a melt down its because Im TIRED of these stupid pointless smear stories!!!!

<<< intellectual devoid meltdown in progress :eek:

 

Duwelon

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: BeauJangles

You nailed it. I missed your post earlier and basically repeated the same thing above

:thumbsup:
Thank you, this is really fvcking simple stuff people. We can all take a look at the bum sitting on the curbside and draw conclusions about what it is that made him be the person he is today but NONE of us know the factual circumstances.

someone can draw the conclusion that he is a drunk living on the street

while others can draw the conclusion that he is mentally ill and unable to buy meds to keep a steady job.

bottom line is, you look like an Fn idiot drawing conclusions (and jumping to conclusions in the case of the OP) based on so little evidence with respect to this story.

If I'm having a melt down its because Im TIRED of these stupid pointless smear stories!!!!

<<< intellectual devoid meltdown in progress :eek:

The story further reveals a pattern with the character of Obama. We expect a great leader to be great, not expect to wield the POTUS when he can't even sustain a good social life within his own line of kin.
 

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
As if the brother story wasn't bad enough, there's a pattern forming here.

Yes, and that pattern is you're as dumb as a fucking stump.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: BeauJangles

You nailed it. I missed your post earlier and basically repeated the same thing above

:thumbsup:
Thank you, this is really fvcking simple stuff people. We can all take a look at the bum sitting on the curbside and draw conclusions about what it is that made him be the person he is today but NONE of us know the factual circumstances.

someone can draw the conclusion that he is a drunk living on the street

while others can draw the conclusion that he is mentally ill and unable to buy meds to keep a steady job.

bottom line is, you look like an Fn idiot drawing conclusions (and jumping to conclusions in the case of the OP) based on so little evidence with respect to this story.

If I'm having a melt down its because Im TIRED of these stupid pointless smear stories!!!!

<<< intellectual devoid meltdown in progress :eek:

The story further reveals a pattern with the character of Obama. We expect a great leader to be great, not expect to wield the POTUS when he can't even sustain a good social life within his own line of kin.

It reveals nothing other than that media outlet's desire to portray Obama as a bad person and your desire to see him that way.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Duwelon

The story further reveals a pattern with the character of Obama. We expect a great leader to be great, not expect to wield the POTUS when he can't even sustain a good social life within his own line of kin.
your conclusion is based on an assumption not on fact.



 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: T2T III
Originally posted by: retrospooty

Really? So would I . What does that have to do with it? Defending Obama's charachter does not mean I do it above loyalty to my country.

Speaking of loyalty to one's country... How do you justify McCain/Palin spreading aweful untrue accusations about being a friend of terrorists, riling people up about the man tha tvery likely will be the president. County first my ass!
McCain has shown his loyalty to his country for many years. Nobody can dispute that. Obama, has shown little - if any. Why is he so eager to cover up much of his past? If it were something that wouldn't be so discomforting to America, then I see no reason in his not being more open about what's asked of him.

McCain is tee 70's is NOT McCain the running for president. The current McCain running did alot of nasties, Keating 5, bowing to lobbyists, running a horribly dirty and hippoctritical campaign, lying to gain political favor etc...

And as far as Obama's loyalty. What do you call being a state senator and then a US senator? That is not serving the country? that is not loyalty? You think because he served on an education charity board with Profesor Ayers (a man heavily involved in Chicaco charity and politics) makes him unloyal? Oh, no, I am sorry. We cannot help these children, because the main man behind the effort to help was a hippie bomber 40 years ago.

Your priorities are so backwards its not even funny.
 

Kuragami

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I'm incredibly judgmental but I refuse to judge Obama on family issues. I'm personally not happy with either candidate so that has no bearing on this. Plus I'm Canadian so I can blow my horn from the sidelines.

People too easily forget their own lives. How many half brothers and aunts do you have? How often have you so much as called them in the past five years? I'm guessing for most people that's 0. Heck I was 17 before I even found out that I had a cousin back in the old country and found out when she wrote me a letter as my mother was dying.

That cousin, whom I never meet, did more for me in one letter then many far closer members of my family ever have. That one simple letter of support encouraged me to endure and push on while far closer family members could, and did, care less. As consequence to that and many other actions throughout the years I consider most of my immediate family dead to me. How the heck could you possibly judge me on how I choose to deal with my family when you know nothing about it. In case you lack reading comprehension please note the period instead of the question mark. That means it's a rhetorical question.

Instead of constantly shoving your feet in your mouth you might consider a moment of critical thinking. If you ever had an ounce of it to begin with.
 

Baked

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At least he didn't ditch his crippled 2nd wife for a cash cow fembot for a 3rd wife. So much for through sickness and health and till death do us part. Scumbag.
 

rchiu

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Well I normally don't judge people on his family relationship. But this is Obama, with his book dreams of his father and with him using visits to his Kenyan relatives at the end of the book to grab emotion of the reader. What I see here is two complete different pictures. In real life, we never seen any of his Kenyan family in his family circle, and they all live a life of poverty while Obama live a life of rich and famous. It is totally opposite of what he claim in the book and how close he is to his "root".

Just feel like he used his Kenyan family root to make millions on his book while do nothing to help out his Kenyan family that live in poverty. And this doesn't seem like someone who suppose to bring change and hope should be doing.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t...ons/article5042571.ece

I like Drudge's headline: SPREAD WEALTH AROUND: OBAMA AUNT FOUND IN BOSTON SLUM...

Obama is a fraud. Pure and simple. He has no character. He believes in spreading the wealth, supposedly, but not his own. If his selfishness and the total fraud underneith isn't evident already, just look at what the people biologically closest to him are like and the severe lack of relationships he has with them, even his own brother in Kenya.

Obama is a liberal he preaches one thing and practices another, I'm sure he would help her with our money.

He "preaches" that net income above $250,000 a year be taxed at the 39.6% rate instead of the 35% rate. And since Obama is in the top 5% of all taxpayers, he would himself be subject to the 39.6% marginal tax rate under his plan.

Has he ever "preached" that rich people should give their wealth to poor people? Has he ever preached that rich relatives should give their wealth to poor relatives?

If you can find hypocrisy in Obama's behavior, you have a great imagination.

So how is he a hypocrite?