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dxkj

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Current job, ~ 51k salary, no overtime required, good vacation (3 weeks a year) unlimited sick days (taken 10.5 this year) free healthcare (good stuff, no monthly fee), decent retirement stuff, free soda, etc, but its a 170 mile daily commute (killing me in gas and maintenance)


Prospect job, $23hr contract job, 18 months contract, no good benefits, etc, its a contract job, this job is 4 miles round trip from home.





Kinda rough :( never taken a contract job before so I have no clue what its like comparatively..... probably dont get sick days or vacation days eh?
 

gar3555

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Current job, ~ 51k salary, no overtime required, good vacation (3 weeks a year) unlimited sick days (taken 10.5 this year) free healthcare (good stuff, no monthly fee), decent retirement stuff, free soda, etc, but its a 170 mile daily commute (killing me in gas and maintenance)


Prospect job, $23 contract job, 18 months contract, no good benefits, etc, its a contract job





Kinda rough :( never taken a contract job before so I have no clue what its like comparatively..... probably dont get sick days or vacation days eh?


$23 sounds kind of low...I would want more than $23 for 18 mo of work ;)
 

pyonir

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in contract, you generally don't get any paid time off...that includes sick and vacation.
 

Yossarian

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why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.
 

mindmaniac

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.

Unless you are firmly rooted where you are, I would consider the move. You can always drive to your old town on the weekends and would save a lot of money and your car would like you much more.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: mindmaniac
Originally posted by: Yossarian
why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.

Unless you are firmly rooted where you are, I would consider the move. You can always drive to your old town on the weekends and would save a lot of money and your car would like you much more.

I just moved from 3 miles away from work to 85 miles away for my wife to go to Grad school, so no moving possible
 

iwantanewcomputer

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: mindmaniac
Originally posted by: Yossarian
why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.

Unless you are firmly rooted where you are, I would consider the move. You can always drive to your old town on the weekends and would save a lot of money and your car would like you much more.

I just moved from 3 miles away from work to 85 miles away for my wife to go to Grad school, so no moving possible

move back and make teh btch drive?
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: mindmaniac
Originally posted by: Yossarian
why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.

Unless you are firmly rooted where you are, I would consider the move. You can always drive to your old town on the weekends and would save a lot of money and your car would like you much more.

I just moved from 3 miles away from work to 85 miles away for my wife to go to Grad school, so no moving possible

Why not get a small place near your work and spend the weekends at your home?
 

DAGTA

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$23/hour is approximately $46,000 salary. You'll be taking a cut.

Also, keep this in mind:
You get zero benefits.
No health insurance.
No retirement.
Your taxes will increase 15.3% to cover the part that your employer is not paying into Social Security and Medicare for you.

Overall, this will likely not be worth it.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: mindmaniac
Originally posted by: Yossarian
why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.

Unless you are firmly rooted where you are, I would consider the move. You can always drive to your old town on the weekends and would save a lot of money and your car would like you much more.

I just moved from 3 miles away from work to 85 miles away for my wife to go to Grad school, so no moving possible

move back and make teh btch drive?

my wife isnt a btch, she's really great :)

Besides... I get to stay at home and start my computer business after we get her through grad school :) Plus we bought a house up here, so no, we arent moving

It makes much more sense to get a new job, then keep an ok job that I dont enjoy, its just a matter of time finding one that is comparable in compensation
 

vi edit

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Yuck. Contract for *only* $23 an hour? You'll be taking almost a 20% paycut. Plus no bennies. And no security.

But, on the flip side, with that much of a commute, your effective pay rate (counting commute time, gas, vehicle wear & tear, ect) might be about the same with the current job.

Tough call.

Spending 3 hours (or more) in a car every day would suck BIG TIME.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: mindmaniac
Originally posted by: Yossarian
why don't you move closer to your job? that's a pretty steep pay cut once you factor in loss of bennies.

Unless you are firmly rooted where you are, I would consider the move. You can always drive to your old town on the weekends and would save a lot of money and your car would like you much more.

I just moved from 3 miles away from work to 85 miles away for my wife to go to Grad school, so no moving possible

Why not get a small place near your work and spend the weekends at your home?



A small place near where I work would easily run $700 minimum a month.... its not a cheap area... and then I wouldnt have the TV computer, etc, and end up sitting around all night, I would have to get a second job to work at night ;)


They are letting me work from home 1 day a week, hopefully I can up that to 3 and just keep my current job... 2 days a week 170 miles total wouldnt be bad
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
$23/hour is approximately $46,000 salary. You'll be taking a cut.

Also, keep this in mind:
You get zero benefits.
No health insurance.
No retirement.
Your taxes will increase 15.3% to cover the part that your employer is not paying into Social Security and Medicare for you.

Overall, this will likely not be worth it.

Good info! this is why I made the post. I am currently paying 20% tax off of my pay check, so you are saying I would be paying 35% tax as a contractor?
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Yuck. Contract for *only* $23 an hour? You'll be taking almost a 20% paycut. Plus no bennies. And no security.

But, on the flip side, with that much of a commute, your effective pay rate (counting commute time, gas, vehicle wear & tear, ect) might be about the same with the current job.

Tough call.

Spending 3 hours (or more) in a car every day would suck BIG TIME.

No joke, Ive been doing it for a month now, but I get by.... 85 miles each way, 1hr 15 minutes to 1hr 30 minutes each way
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: MadPeriot
Yea but you're probably on 1099 since you're a contractor. Many tax write off benefits.

I dont understand your crazy tax lingo..... :)
 

MadPeriot

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: MadPeriot
Yea but you're probably on 1099 since you're a contractor. Many tax write off benefits.

I dont understand your crazy tax lingo..... :)

Are you on 1099 or W4? If you're on 1099 which you probably are since you are a contractor you get to write off things you eat, gas, mileage, some clothing, computer stuff, so in the end when tax time you won't owe as much.
 

Koing

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Dude that is a crazy commute!

You only get 3 weeks? Meaning 15 days? wtf? I get 25 days and I just started but I am in England though.

Contract = if you don't work = no pay but you get paid more then if you were on on a salary.

Koing
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: DAGTA
$23/hour is approximately $46,000 salary. You'll be taking a cut.

Also, keep this in mind:
You get zero benefits.
No health insurance.
No retirement.
Your taxes will increase 15.3% to cover the part that your employer is not paying into Social Security and Medicare for you.

Overall, this will likely not be worth it.

Good info! this is why I made the post. I am currently paying 20% tax off of my pay check, so you are saying I would be paying 35% tax as a contractor?
Yes.

My base tax rate is 40.3% with my business. You can get that lower at the end of the year with itemized deductions, but it's still going to suck writing a fat check to Uncle Sam 4 times a year.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: MadPeriot
Yea but you're probably on 1099 since you're a contractor. Many tax write off benefits.

I dont understand your crazy tax lingo..... :)

1099 is just the self employed/independent contractor form of choice. You'll file a 1099-Misc at the end of the year.

You get to offest your taxes that you owe with business deductions -

A % of your car payment/gas/repairs/insurance/tags
Home office deduction which amounts to a % of your mortgage amount & some utilities
Items required for the job - laptops, printers, consumable supplies, ect

But for the type of work you'd be doing it, would be stretching the boundaries of the deductions a bit.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Koing
Dude that is a crazy commute!

You only get 3 weeks? Meaning 15 days? wtf? I get 25 days and I just started but I am in England though.

Contract = if you don't work = no pay but you get paid more then if you were on on a salary.

Koing

Different countries. In the USA, most people only get one or two weeks (5 to 10 days) off in entry level jobs.