Kabob
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- Sep 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: Supermercado
I'm still saying that we should allow any upgrades we want, including drive train. Unless that's a restriction that real race teams have, I don't think we should limit ourselves to one drive train. From a strategic standpoint, having a different drive train on different tracks could be beneficial. If we go with Ty's idea of having a spec tire, running sport tires is probably okay.
As for the actual cars themselves, it seems like we're a little short on cars. Just at a glance... no BMW, Porsche, Cadillac, etc. There's a lot of makers with good cars that aren't represented. I honestly think I'm coming down on the side of not having a set car list to pick from, it just has to meet the required PI limitations each race. I'm okay with a spec tire but I think I'm against having a set car list.
Many racing series do not allow AWD. This is why cars like the Porsche 997 GT3, Lamborghini Gallardo GT3 (not street legal), and the new Audi R8 GT3 exist, they all take AWD platforms and move them to RWD. Now, some series (Speed World Challenge I believe, and a few others) allow AWD, but I believe it's only if that's your original drivetrain, drivetrain swaps (at least swaps that change your drive wheels) I don't believe are allowed by many (unless, as I mentioned, it moves you out of AWD for series that do not allow it).
Here's a list I whipped up for blowfish of a few car ideas (slightly updated to include 2 DLC cars):
Once again, HP, weight, and tires are the three things you need to match. Either put a spec tire or make everyone use race tires, that adds a certain amount of PI.
A Subaru Impreza WRX STi with Avon race tires, 300 hp, and ~ 2500 lbs is going to be similar to a Ferrari with the same stats in Forza. Sure, one will take off faster and one will have a faster top speed, but they'll be similar. They can't make every car 100% realistic in it's handling charcteristics.
So I say make a car list, give it a lil' variety, and put limits/ranges/caps on certain parts/stats. The guy who won the WTCC series on the Forza Central boards used a car that was "slower" than the other options, but he just like how it handled.
In my mind, I'd like to see a range of coupes and sedans that are relatively evenly matched.
Say...(I can't see PI's so these may be way off base):
Acura RL type S
Audi S4 '04
Audi S5 '07
BMW M3 E46
BMW M3 E92
Caddilac CTS-V
Dodge Charger SRT8
Ford Mustang GT
Lexus IS350
Mercedes C32 AMG
Mercedes CLK55 AMG
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo *
Nissan Silvia Spec-R S15
Pontiac GTO
Saab 9-3 Aero
Saturn ION Red Line
Scion tC
Subaru Impreza WRX STi ('04 or '05)
Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
Volkswagon Bora VR6
Volvo S60R
Just reading off a list, so I can't see these cars to tell exactly what they all are, just a quick list.
Or heck, do what my other option was the other day, Grand Touring cars (typically 2 door spots cars). Something like:
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
BMW M3 E46
Caddilac CTS-V
Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
Ferrari 575 Maranello
Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
Infinity G35 Coupe
Maserati GranSport
Maserati GranTurismo
Panoz Esperante GTLM
Toyota Supra RZ
TVR Tuscan S
Both are just rough lists, once again I don't know the PI of those nor the exact classifications (I'm sure I have some sports cars in the Grand Touring group).
I'd love to add Porsche to that list as well but (IMHO) there's no decent car that I can make to A820 that'll have all the aero bits.
