Question Fortnite minimum requirements? G4560, 8GB DDR4, and R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 not cutting it? Gaming on Wifi? How many people do that?

[VirtualLarry]

So, I built a PC for my friend for his kids to play games on. Only, that one wasn't powerful enough, to play Fortnite (Core2-era box, with only 4GB RAM).

So, I built him another one, and he was going to pay me the difference in cost between the boxes. It has a G4560, 8GB DDR4, and I think (IIRC) a 2GB 260X card. He said that his kids didn't want to use it, because it "stutters". (It has an SSD.)

His main gaming PC, I built for him a couple of years back, with a refurb Sandy Bridge i5-2500 (?), 16GB RAM, and a GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5 card. I thought that the G4560 was comparable, and so was the 260X 2GB GDDR5.

He did say that it was "on wireless". I told him when he first came to me with the issue, to "get it wired" (he has the router/gateway from his ISP in his room, so it shouldn't be a problem). In fact, I even gave him a few spare ethernet cables.

But, apparently, he couldn't even be bothered to try wiring it up. He tells me "Sometimes, I play PS4 wireless, and there's no problem!".

So, what say you PC Gaming Forum, is it under-powered for Fortnite, or is my friend just being stubborn and not trying to use the game wired?

He says that he'll bring the PC by to check out. I'm just going to keep it, since he hasn't made any payments on it (ever) in like 8 months. Not like he's even using it.

Edit: And as a sub-topic of this thread, how many of you have gaming PCs connected via Wifi? Are you using N, 5Ghz N, or AC? How well does that work out? I'm a big believer that any semi-permanent device installation that needs internet, should be WIRED. Even if you have to string a cable across the floor. (I realize that may not be for everyone, and for web browsing probably unnecessary, but for gaming, well, you should wire it up, IMHO.)

Edit: He says that it "stutters" in Roblox, too. Thought that was a low-spec game? I think that points to the wifi.

 

[techmanc]

get rid of the the 2GB 260X for 1050 or even better 1060 video card I get a 4 gb card if you to play fortnite or other games

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4521&game=Fortnite

"recommend" video card only has 2GB of VRAM. Should meet the "recommended" specs.

Official Recommended Requirements

• Nvidia GTX 660 or AMD Radeon HD 7870 equivalent DX11 GPU
• 2 GByte VRAM
• Core i5 2.8 Ghz
• 8 GByte RAM
• Windows 7/8/10 64-bit + Mac OSX Sierra (10.13.3+)

Or has "feature creep" made those specs obsolete, and I need something more powerful?

 

[TheELF]

If you run fortnite without vsync/fps limiter it will use all available CPU resources ,if the GPU is strong enough or the settings low enough,which could produce stutter,at 60Hz it uses minimal resources.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If you run fortnite without vsync/fps limiter it will use all available CPU resources ,if the GPU is strong enough or the settings low enough,which could produce stutter,at 60Hz it uses minimal resources.

Thanks, I'll mention that.

 

[BSim500]

So, I built a PC for my friend for his kids to play games on. Only, that one wasn't powerful enough, to play Fortnite (Core2-era box, with only 4GB RAM). So, I built him another one, and he was going to pay me the difference in cost between the boxes. It has a G4560, 8GB DDR4, and I think (IIRC) a 2GB 260X card. He said that his kids didn't want to use it, because it "stutters". (It has an SSD.)

But, apparently, he couldn't even be bothered to try wiring it up. He tells me "Sometimes, I play PS4 wireless, and there's no problem!".

Wait a minute, that isn't this same guy from here is it? Honestly Larry, just take all the bits back, sell them on Ebay and buy him a console... As for the 260X (7790 "Bonaire" rebadge with the same 896 shaders), it's far closer to a 750Ti which is approx 2/3rds of the speed of a GTX 1050.

 

[VirtualLarry]

As for the 260X (7790 "Bonaire" rebadge with the same 896 shaders), it's far closer to a 750Ti which is approx 2/3rds of the speed of a GTX 1050.

I always thought that it was around the performance of an RX 460, or a GTX 950. There was a 'The Division' benchmark, by GamersNexus, or DigitalFoundry, or one of those few, that put them back-to-back. The 260X 2GB GDDR5 wasn't that bad.

Granted, it's not as power-efficient as an RX 460, but performance-wise, my understanding was that they were close. No?

 

[BSim500]

I always thought that it was around the performance of an RX 460, or a GTX 950. There was a 'The Division' benchmark, by GamersNexus, or DigitalFoundry, or one of those few, that put them back-to-back. The 260X 2GB GDDR5 wasn't that bad.

Granted, it's not as power-efficient as an RX 460, but performance-wise, my understanding was that they were close. No?

A GTX 950 is on par with R9 270X. Even the R9 270 is 15% slower. The RX 460 is 30% slower vs GTX 950. The 750Ti 10% slower than that. And the HD 7790 is 10% slower than that (the 260X is just a 7790 that's been OC'd by 10%, so overall a 260X = 750Ti). The reason there isn't much difference is because the 7790, 260X & RX 460 are all the same "Bonaire" (896 shader) card refreshed over and over again. So much so that barely 10% separates the RX 460 2GB (June 2016) vs 750Ti (Feb 2014)...

Edit: Personally, I'd only buy a G4560 + GTX 1050 or below today for older single-player games. It'll run a lot of AAA games up to 2014-2015 era (eg, Skyrim, Dishonored, Talos Principle, Alien Isolation, Bioshock Infinite, etc) just fine at 1080p/60fps High-Ultra along with everything older + modern Indie's (SOMA, Shadow Tactics Blades of the Shogun, The Witness, Divinity Original Sin, etc). For competitive modern MP FPS though, you should really be looking at a quad-core + GTX 1060 or equiv minimum if you don't want stutter. I know your friend doesn't like paying for things but really, if he's already happy with his console and simultaneously can't afford a computer (or figure out how to use one it seems), the answer there is to "let sleeping dogs lie".

 

[quikah]

I use wifi on my desktop to game without any issue (5GHz N or AC, don't remember which), granted it is way beefier than what you describe (i7-6700, 1060, 16GB RAM).

 

[WhiteNoise]

Sub topic response:

All of my gaming rigs are hardwired into the network but I do have a laptop that I use to play games on. This is done over wifi and though I do not play many demanding games on it I do play Path of Exile on wifi without issue. I bring that game up because it is an online game.

 

[nakedfrog]

My rig runs on wifi, but I don't do any online gaming. Everything else seems fine.

 

[balloonshark]

● Antec 460 Watt Power Supply
● Asus H81M-A motherboard
● Intel Pentium G3420 Dual Core CPU Operating at 3.2 GHz
● 8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM as 2 x 4
● eVGA GTX 275 Video Card with 1792 MB GDDR3 Memory P/N 017-P3-1175-AR
● 120 GB OCZ VertexSolid State drive 6 GB/sec
● 250 GB HDD as data drive
● Windows 10 Professional 64
● Wireless N card (if I remember correctly)

I bought and gave this used PC to my young nephew. He never complained to me about problems in fortnite. I would be surprised if he didn't lag though since he was using wireless on a 100Mbps connection with 2 other people on their network. I also preferred wired everything. Either way he hasn't touched the PC in about 40 days. He got a switch for X-mas and he's on it constantly playing fortnite.

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us...mputer-Hardware-Operating-System-Requirements

What about Roblox stuttering? Looking at those system requirements, I mean, that PC should be able to play GTA V at 30FPS on Med / Low.

The fact that such a low-spec game like Roblox is "stuttering", leads me to believe that the network connection is the real issue, aka "being on wifi", and that if my friend bothered to wire up the PC, that he would see much smoother performance.

He also only has a 25/3 or 25/6 Internet connection, cable internet. He's eligible for a speed upgrade, but he hasn't upgraded his equipment. I don't even know if his gateway is DOCSIS 2.x or 3.0. (One would hope that it was 3.0 8x4, but who knows. If it is, then he should be able to get his speed upgrade to 60 or 100Mbit/sec down, without changing out his equipment.)

 

[TheELF]

https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us...mputer-Hardware-Operating-System-Requirements

It's online,it's multiplayer,if there are different worlds I bet that some of them will lag no matter the PC.
The more objects the game has the more it will lag,
the more people are on the same server the more it will lag.

Also internet speed doesn't matter,what matters is to have enough bandwidth (both up and down) left,
if the mobo has Quality of service (QoS) you can set it up to prioritize games,otherwise there are some software solutions to do the same.

 

[balloonshark]

He should at least be williing to plug the thing into the ethernet as a troubleshooting step. Until that is done you'll just keep banging your head against the wall. You can lead a horse to water...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Would Fortnite or Roblox play on a AMD Ryzen 5 2400G APU, with 2x4GB DDR4-2667 RAM? What about on an Athlon 200GE @ 3.80Ghz, with 2x4GB DDR4-2667 RAM? Maybe at 720P?

Edit: Reading the reviews at Newegg, there's a couple in there that mention playing Fortnite well on an A200GE. One review mentioned overclocking, one did not. Both listed GPUs that they were using, one was using a 660Ti Boost, one was using an RX 560.

Surely, the Radeon R7 260X 2GB isn't far off from the RX 560, they're both GCN, both have 896 SPs. Although he mentioned having the 4GB variant.

And according to TechSpot's review of the A200GE, comparing it with contemporary Intel CPUs, like the 2C/4T Kaby Lake G4560 and Coffee Lake Pentium Gold 5400 (5600?), the Intel chips pulled ahead, CPU-wise, a slight bit, compared with a stock-speed A200GE (overclocking with AGESA 1.0.0.6 hadn't been discovered, at the time of that review.)

So, all-in-all, it seems like the PC I built, should play Fortnite, unless it really does require 4GB VRAM these days, and the recommended specs are BS.

So, I'm going to go with "Wireless as the problem".

 

[wilds]

Dual cores are obsolete for modern games in my opinion.

 

[hoorah]

I'm a bit late, but here's my 2 cents anyway.

For a nephew, I built a core 2 quad (actually a xeon mod but whatever) with a 750Ti and a mechanical hard drive that plays fortnite 'really well' he says, but I don't know what resolution he plays on.

For a coworkers kid I gave another 771 mod Xeon X5450 quad core with a 1050Ti, but could only get 4GB of ram and a really slow hard drive in it. I tested it a bit with fortnite before giving it to him and the load time was terrible, but once into the game ran pretty smooth for the 30 seconds I played it.

As for wireless, I often let my son's friends borrow my laptop when they want to play roblox together in my son's room, and thats on wifi. It plays fine.

So Im not really sure what your issue is, but it sounds internet related, or they are just complainers.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm a bit late, but here's my 2 cents anyway.

For a nephew, I built a core 2 quad (actually a xeon mod but whatever) with a 750Ti and a mechanical hard drive that plays fortnite 'really well' he says, but I don't know what resolution he plays on.

For a coworkers kid I gave another 771 mod Xeon X5450 quad core with a 1050Ti, but could only get 4GB of ram and a really slow hard drive in it. I tested it a bit with fortnite before giving it to him and the load time was terrible, but once into the game ran pretty smooth for the 30 seconds I played it.

As for wireless, I often let my son's friends borrow my laptop when they want to play roblox together in my son's room, and thats on wifi. It plays fine.

So Im not really sure what your issue is, but it sounds internet related, or they are just complainers.

Interesting data-points, to be sure.

If Fortnite plays 'really well' on a Core2Quad w/mech HDD, and 750ti, and, logically according to an above post, that a R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 is equivalent in performance to a 750ti, and that rig has 8GB of DDR4, and a G4560, I'm not sure what to say. "Just complainers" sounds like a possibility.

 

[hoorah]

I guess 'really well' is subjective. The nephew previously had an athlon II X4 2.7ghz Cpu with 6gb of ram with the same 750Ti, so it was definitely an improvement. That said, he's not a complainer and most kids his age were playing games on their parents laptops. Someone else might look at that performance and be totally unsatisfied. Who knows?

The other kid that got the system with 4GB of ram and a 250GB mechanical drive might have some legitimate gripes as the load times were long and Im sure with 4GB of ram it would frequently have to stop to load textures while playing, but so far, I havent heard any complaints from them. It was free though, so they may not say anything. Again, the kid came from playing on a $250 budget laptop, so it may be a huge improvement.

I would think the system you listed above should do it fine. Maybe instead of 'stuttering', they are seeing screen tearing?

I'm not sure what the issue is, but honestly man you have the worst clients. Maybe I'm just being an elitist but I wouldn't deal with someone that had to make payments on a computer unless they were like 14 years old.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I would think the system you listed above should do it fine. Maybe instead of 'stuttering', they are seeing screen tearing?

I'm not sure what the issue is, but honestly man you have the worst clients. Maybe I'm just being an elitist but I wouldn't deal with someone that had to make payments on a computer unless they were like 14 years old.

Yeah, I hear ya. The guy is in and out of jobs, has some employment issues.

Anyways, I told him that if he comes over to pick it up, I've got a 22"-class AOC FreeSync (75Hz) LCD monitor that he can have, gratis, to go with that R7 260X / G4560 rig. I've got the DP cable to go with it.

Edit: I told him that a few months ago, he has yet to drive over and pick it up. Also has yet to drop off the PC to have me "look at it".

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://www.staples.com/dell-inspir...z-win-10-home/product_24388699?akamai-feo=off

That said, would one of these 11.6" 1366x768 Stony Ridge laptops play Fortnight at all? Since the native res of the screen is 768P. 3 CU iGPU, some GCN variant, 192 SPs. Surely a lot less than the 896 of the R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 card. I think single-channel RAM too.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Radeo...on-RX-570-Laptop_7445_7958_7678.247598.0.html

Hmm, not a pretty picture. Some games (older) look playable at 1024x768 Low.

 

[techmanc]

I will post this qik case anyone need help with running games......

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri

 

[techmanc]

Check this link on my PC performance its not the best but good enough for me without and special hardware

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/rank-my-computer

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/worthy-upgrade-from-gtx-1080.2561922/#post-39753996

Read this! Apparently, newer editions of Windows 10 have a memory-allocation bug, that causes "stuttering". There's a program to run in the background every 5-10 minutes, EmptyFreeList or something like that. Interesting. So, 1) my friend is apparently, not lying / just complaining, and 2) it has nothing to do, directly, with the system requirements of the game(s). Also explains why a low-spec game like Roblox also stutters on that rig.

IOW, it's Windows 10. His own rig (that I also built), was Windows 7. Hmm.