Former Pennsylvania senator Arlen Specter dead at 82

Moonbeam

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Good riddance to Mr. Single Bullet Theory.

The normal reaction to folk you hate that die is to show some respect for life itself. For example, you are emotionally dead and I find it sad. I am sorry for what happened to you as a child that turned you into what you were never meant to be.
 

Juror No. 8

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The normal reaction to folk you hate that die is to show some respect for life itself.

LOL. If you really had respect for human life you wouldn't dedicate yourself to a political philosophy that demands the enslavement of some human beings to provide for the social programs of other human beings.

You're the modern day equivalent of a Southern plantation owner.
 

Matt1970

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LOL. If you really had respect for human life you wouldn't dedicate yourself to a political philosophy that demands the enslavement of some human beings to provide for the social programs of other human beings.

You're the modern day equivalent of a Southern plantation owner.

You really are a piece of garbage. Death to all who oppose you huh? I don't agree with Moonbeam a lot of the time but I know he atleast has respect for humal life. You on the other hand do not, nor do you have a Clue as to what you are talking about.
 

Juror No. 8

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You really are a piece of garbage. Death to all who oppose you huh?

We all die eventually, moron.

Tell me, why should I have respect for the passing of a piece of shit like Specter?

I don't agree with Moonbeam a lot of the time but I know he atleast has respect for humal life.
Yes, the guy who advocates enslavement to the government is a great respecter of human life. LOL.

Welcome to Bizarro World.

You on the other hand do not, nor do you have a Clue as to what you are talking about.
If you think I'm wrong, go ahead and explain how. Try to make a rational argument instead of arguing from the emotion. Go ahead and make a case for Specter's supposed greatness.
 

Perknose

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Over the course of his long career, Arlen Spector took stances I endorsed and also, a lot of stances I opposed. His fierce and relentless dogging of Anita Hill was a low point for me, for instance.

But he did oppose the nomination of loony Robert Bork for the SC, which won him no friends in his party. He was consistently pro-choice. He also voted against the impeachment of Bill Clinton, actually citing Scottish law and attempting to register his vote as "not proven."

Finally, he had the political courage to go against his party and vote for the stimulus bill, one of only three Republicans to do so. The right wing never forgave him for this, went gunning for him, and this vote of his basically ended his political career.

He stood up for what he thought was best for his country anyway. That took real guts,

He is the only person ever to be elected five straight times to the Senate from Pennsylvania. I split my ticket (as I often have done) to vote for him for the Senate in both 1998 and 2004.

Arlen Spector was one of that vanishing breed of Republicans, a man who could and did forsake petty partisanship when he thought it was the wrong thing to do.

He started public life as a prosecutor, as a reformist DA in Philadelphia. He had a razor sharp mind, and he knew the law inside and out. You would not have wanted to be in the docket and having to face him.

Yes, there were often times when, politically, I wanted to wring his neck. That's life, eh?

The Senior Senator from the Great State of Pennsylvania had a good long life, and he made his mark on the national stage. Would that any one of us, for better or worse, accomplish as much.
 

lotus503

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Over the course of his long career, Arlen Spector took stances I endorsed and also, a lot of stances I opposed. His fierce and relentless dogging of Anita Hill was a low point for me, for instance.

But he did oppose the nomination of loony Robert Bork for the SC, which won him no friends in his party. He was consistently pro-choice. He also voted against the impeachment of Bill Clinton, actually citing Scottish law and attempting to register his vote as "not proven."

Finally, he had the political courage to go against his party and vote for the stimulus bill, one of only three Republicans to do so. The right wing never forgave him for this, went gunning for him, and this vote of his basically ended his political career.

He stood up for what he thought was best for his country anyway. That took real guts,

He is the only person ever to be elected five straight times to the Senate from Pennsylvania. I split my ticket (as I often have done) to vote for him for the Senate in both 1998 and 2004.

Arlen Spector was one of that vanishing breed of Republicans, a man who could and did forsake petty partisanship when he thought it was the wrong thing to do.

He started public life as a prosecutor, as a reformist DA in Philadelphia. He had a razor sharp mind, and he knew the law inside and out. You would not have wanted to be in the docket and having to face him.

Yes, there were often times when, politically, I wanted to wring his neck. That's life, eh?

The Senior Senator from the Great State of Pennsylvania had a good long life, and he made his mark on the national stage. Would that any one of us, for better or worse, accomplish as much.


Well said
 

lotus503

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Some opportunistic career politician/used car salesman dies and the American people carry on as if it somehow has any real meaning or importance. Pretty soon we'll be acting just like the North Koreans do when one of their Dear Leaders dies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLJYbhXCkE


I don't see anyone carrying on but you in defiance, other folks are just remembering a guy who served and calling you a lowlife for crapping on that.
 

kage69

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Like Perk said, he had guts - and I admired him for that. I was too young to care about his behavior during the Thomas\Hill thing, but I remember him standing out from "his" crowd in the past, and in more recent times before he left office he showed himself to be one the few republicans who understood the concept of compromise. I daresay he was one of the good guys; one who didn't hold party concerns above his duty or morals. An exceedingly rare trait in the GOP these days.


Anyone else laughing at dumbshit here saying good riddance than criticizing another for having no respect for life? A good laugh for an otherwise somber thread.


RIP Arlen. I may not have approved of everything you said or did, but I wish we had more like you on the right.
 

Juror No. 8

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He served to legislate on behalf of the people that elected him to do so.

And who financed his campaigns? Who provided him with favorable media coverage so that Americans would think he was worth electing?

Big banks and corporations, perhaps?
 

Juror No. 8

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Yeah, because "good riddance" is such a rational argument.

Why, what's irrational about it? What did Specter ever do that was so great? Convince sheep like you to think he was working on their behalf?

LOL.

Oh well.. create a forum where shit is encouraged and naturally you attract flies.
Says the guys who drinks the partisan Kool-Aid and then asks for seconds.

LOL.
 

lotus503

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And who financed his campaigns? Who provided him with favorable media coverage so that Americans would think he was worth electing?

Big banks and corporations, perhaps?

Of course that's who. %.05 of the population funds our election cycle.

SCOTUS has determined money is speech and that corporations are people.

You want to blame the politician for working within the framework of a system, rather than the system perhaps?
 

jman19

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You really are a piece of garbage. Death to all who oppose you huh? I don't agree with Moonbeam a lot of the time but I know he atleast has respect for humal life. You on the other hand do not, nor do you have a Clue as to what you are talking about.

:thumbsup:
 

Juror No. 8

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Of course that's who. %.05 of the population funds our election cycle.

SCOTUS has determined money is speech and that corporations are people.

You want to blame the politician for working within the framework of a system, rather than the system perhaps?

Mafia henchmen work within the framework of a system too. Just like politicians, they take money to implement and enforce the laws of their Mafia bosses.

Does that mean they are somehow above criticism?
 

Charles Kozierok

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lotus503

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Mafia henchmen work within the framework of a system too. Just like politicians, they take money to implement and enforce the laws of their Mafia bosses.

Does that mean they are somehow above criticism?

There is a difference between the laws of the united states and mafia laws.

Again your not offering substance rather false equivalencies and platitudes.
 

Juror No. 8

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There is a difference between the laws of the united states and mafia laws.

Go ahead, tell me, what's the difference?

Again your not offering substance rather false equivalencies and platitudes.

What's false about the equivalence? What makes the laws of the U.S. government ("we can tax you... pay up or else!") any more legitimate than those of a Mafia ("we can extort you... pay up or else!")?
 

NoStateofMind

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Mafia henchmen work within the framework of a system too. Just like politicians, they take money to implement and enforce the laws of their Mafia bosses.

Does that mean they are somehow above criticism?

There's a lot of fascist pigs in this generation of politics that I won't give a damn about once they kick the bucket. George W, Cheney and McCain to name a few of America's traitor academy.
 

NoStateofMind

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Go ahead, tell me, what's the difference?



What's false about the equivalence? What makes the laws of the U.S. government ("we can tax you... pay up or else!") any more legitimate than those of a Mafia ("we can extort you... pay up or else!")?

There is no difference other than one is legal and the other is not.