Former Joint Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces: 9/11 a Globalist Inside Job

Votingisanillusion

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Just to let you know, since the truth about 9/11 is censored by the CIA controlled corporate media (according to a director of the CIA spilling the beans to a Senate commission in the '70s).

Also, the second edition of a documentary about 9/11 has just been released, maybe the best so far:
http://www.loosechange911.com
Includes many testimonies about the bombs inside the WTC (several from firefighters tapes only recently released), analysis of the engine found at the Pentagon, testimonies about the mysterious disappearance of most blackboxes (courtesy of the FBI; because rescue workers did find them!), and much more.
The authors authorize and encourage everyone to download it freely on emule and bittorrent, and to distribute copies for free.
Torrent: http://www.mininova.org/tor/184395
Emule: http://control-alt-delete.ca/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6127&

Not to miss as well, a great interview of Sibel Edmonds last week by Alex Jones:
http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/sibelalex011706.mp3
Edmonds is the FBI translator under a gag order thanks to the criminal Bush administration. What really happened on 9/11 is much worse than what you ever thought...only if you believe her, that is. You can also courageously choose to cover your ears: she might be a witch, who knows?


Russian General: Nine Eleven a Globalist Inside Job

by Kurt Nimmo, from Another day in the empire

Sunday January 22nd 2006, 6:28 pm

It?s ironic General Leonid Ivashov, former Joint Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces (General Leonid Ivashov is now the vice-president of the Academy on geopolitical affairs. He was the chief of the department for General affairs in the Soviet Union?s ministry of Defense, secretary of the Council of defense ministers of the Community of independant states (CIS), chief of the Military cooperation department at the Russian federation?s Ministry of defense and Joint chief of staff of the Russian armies), delivers the truth on globalism and this truth, unavailable in the corporate media of the "free world," is published in a newspaper in Las Tunas, Cuba. Ivashov tells us so-called international terrorism "is not something independent of world politics but simply an instrument, a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite" and "is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-state political structures as a means to attain their political objectives through people?s intimidation, psychological and social destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the manipulation of the countries? policies and the behavior of people."

Ivashov hits the nail square on the head. "The organizers of [the nine eleven] attacks were the political and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order" because they "were not satisfied with the rhythm of the globalization process or its direction." As others have explained?most notably Andreas von Bulow, Bundestag member of a parliamentary commission which oversaw the three branches of the German secret service?only "secret services and their current chiefs" (or retired staff with "influence inside the state organizations") have the "ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. Generally, secret services create, finance and control extremist organizations. Without the support of secret services, these organizations cannot exist?let alone carry out operations of such magnitude inside countries so well protected." Thus the obvious patsy "Osama bin Laden and 'Al Qaeda? cannot be the organizers or the performers of the September 11 attacks" because they "do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders" (or the military and intelligence experience and knowledge required). Instead, "a team of professionals had to be created and the Arab kamikazes are just extras to mask the operation."

According to General Ivashov, the covert operation nine eleven was effective because it turned "the people?s demands to a struggle of undefined goals against an invisible enemy ? destroying basic international norms and changing concepts such as: aggression, state terror, dictatorship or movement of national liberation" and also depriving "peoples of their legitimate right to fight against aggressions and to reject the work of foreign intelligence services."

Here in America and likely much of Europe, General Ivashov?s message is all but invisible, since the corporate media assiduously ignores any discussion of nine eleven that does not take the fantastical Straussian neocon version of events as gospel truth. As an example of this, run a Google News search on General Ivashov?it will return the sole link to the Cuban newspaper above, peroid.

In order to combat the globalist agenda to reduce the planet to a "free trade" gulag, General Ivashov suggests the creation of "a geo-strategic organization (perhaps inspired in the Cooperation Organization of Shanghai comprised of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan) with a set of values different to that of the Atlantists," that is to say the neolib-neocon faction (in Russia, many political analysts call defenders of "unipolar globalism" Atlantists, or as A. Dugin of the International Eurasian Movement describes it, "strategists of the Western civilization and their conscious supporters in other parts of the planet, aiming at putting the whole world under control and imposing the social, economic and cultural stereotypes typical of the Western civilization to all the rest of mankind?. The atlantists are the builders of the 'new world order??the unprecedented world system benefiting an absolute minority of the planet?s population").

If General Ivashov?s vision of a "geo-strategic organization" comes to pass, it will mean "total war" under the absolutist and demented neocon rubric, since the Straussian neocons, as elucidated in their principle PNAC document, will not tolerate "competitors" and will respond in drastic fashion, more than likely with nuclear weapons (as they appear likely to do under far less provocation in Iran).

The only way to stop this impending nuclear conflagration is to dethrone the Straussian neocons?and soon.

In the meantime, I am wishing for a pony.

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1prophet

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It is always easier to blame the bogey man in the closet or under the bed. This country was asleep and in a state of bliss chasing the almighty dollar.

Many here can't comprehend that their are people out there willing to die and kill for what they believe so they look for conspiracies since it is easier to accept and believe.

See link.

nightmares
 

AnitaPeterson

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"a geo-strategic organization (perhaps inspired in the Cooperation Organization of Shanghai comprised of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan)"

Yeah, all of these countries are pillars of democracy, common-sense, strong economies, respect for human rights and the environment... where do I sign up?

I'm not happy about the way in which globalisation is achieved, but if these people are the alternative... I'll try tomorrow to become a member of the Illuminati.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
"a geo-strategic organization (perhaps inspired in the Cooperation Organization of Shanghai comprised of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan)"

Yeah, all of these countries are pillars of democracy, common-sense, strong economies, respect for human rights and the environment... where do I sign up?

I'm not happy about the way in which globalisation is achieved, but if these people are the alternative... I'll try tomorrow to become a member of the Illuminati.

Is it better to be obvious about your disregard to those things? or just be selective in when you follow them, and lie about it.
 

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Delusional Disorder

Themes of delusions may fall into the following types: erotomanic type (patient believes that a person, usually of higher social standing, is in love with the individual); grandiose type (patient believes that he has some great but unrecognized talent or insight, a special identity, knowledge, power, self-worth, or special relationship with someone famous or with God); jealous type (patient believes his partner has been unfaithful); persecutory type (patient believes he is being cheated, spied on, drugged, followed, slandered or somehow mistreated); somatic type (patient believes he is experiencing physical sensations or bodily dysfunctions?such as foul odors or insects crawling on or under the skin?or is suffering from a general medical condition or defect); mixed type (characteristics of more than one of the above types, but no one theme dominates); or unspecified type (patient's delusions do not fall in described categories).
 

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Delusional Disorder

Themes of delusions may fall into the following types: erotomanic type (patient believes that a person, usually of higher social standing, is in love with the individual); grandiose type (patient believes that he has some great but unrecognized talent or insight, a special identity, knowledge, power, self-worth, or special relationship with someone famous or with God); jealous type (patient believes his partner has been unfaithful); persecutory type (patient believes he is being cheated, spied on, drugged, followed, slandered or somehow mistreated); somatic type (patient believes he is experiencing physical sensations or bodily dysfunctions?such as foul odors or insects crawling on or under the skin?or is suffering from a general medical condition or defect); mixed type (characteristics of more than one of the above types, but no one theme dominates); or unspecified type (patient's delusions do not fall in described categories).

:laugh:
 

Votingisanillusion

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
It is always easier to blame the bogey man in the closet or under the bed. This country was asleep and in a state of bliss chasing the almighty dollar.

Many here can't comprehend that their are people out there willing to die and kill for what they believe so they look for conspiracies since it is easier to accept and believe.

See link.

nightmares

On the contrary, it is much easier to blame it on ousiders than to blame it on insiders.
Anyway, with all the testimonies about the bombs inside the WTC (Loose Change 2nd Edition documentary), and the video and sound proofs of these bombs (911 Eyewitness documentary), it is now impossible for anyone to prove that 9/11 was an outside job, since we have the proofs it was an inside job. The more people will see these proofs, the more people will stop believing the lies of the criminal Bush and his appointed accomplices about 9/11.
 

judasmachine

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Just humor the idea for a minute, is it impossible? is there motive, is there oppurtunity?

I tend to think it was Al Quieda, but was exploited for the Neocon agenda. But I love conspiracy theories.


Think for one moment that you have been had.
 

Votingisanillusion

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Just humor the idea for a minute, is it impossible? is there motive, is there oppurtunity?

I tend to think it was Al Quieda, but was exploited for the Neocon agenda. But I love conspiracy theories.


Think for one moment that you have been had.

As was revealed by the now world famous British MP Galloway, the name Al Qaeda was not invented by Bin Laden. It was the exact name of the CIA database containing the names of the mujahideens fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda, copyright CIA. Bin Laden said in his first interview after 9/11 that he had nothing to do with it, and that it was not respectful of the teachings of the Quran to kill all those innocent people. Now this:
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/01/bin-laden-tape-probably-faked-by-cia.html
The technology to fake someone's voice has existed for years, as is proved by the documentary "Loose Change - 2nd Edition". In a technological demo years ago, US Navy people faked Colin Powell's voice saying he was an hostage. In this documentary, you can also see a very accurate analysis of the famous low resolution, bad quality Bin Laden video, which proves that it is not Bin Laden at all.
 

judasmachine

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You don't even have to fake anyone's voice as almost no one would know what your boogey man sounds like anyway. And those who do would never be believed anyway. I am open minded, I just don't think you can get away with a burning of the Reichstag in more modern times. Well not as successfully as Hitler did.
 

Uhtrinity

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
You don't even have to fake anyone's voice as almost no one would know what your boogey man sounds like anyway. And those who do would never be believed anyway. I am open minded, I just don't think you can get away with a burning of the Reichstag in more modern times. Well not as successfully as Hitler did.


You might get away with it for awhile, but a conspiracy this big would be bound to break open. To many people would have to know about it, and for every person involved it become more and more difficult to contain. Not saying I believe it 100%, but there is enough relevent info to cause some doubt in the official story.
 

Votingisanillusion

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
You don't even have to fake anyone's voice as almost no one would know what your boogey man sounds like anyway. And those who do would never be believed anyway. I am open minded, I just don't think you can get away with a burning of the Reichstag in more modern times. Well not as successfully as Hitler did.

If you control the mass media, the secret services, the government,...yes you can get away with it. Most people in control of the mass media, in the secret services, in government, are too much affraid of a popular revolution to let the truth about 9/11 escape. Just like when they killed JFK, MLK, RFK. They are elitist: that means that if some of their fellow elitists do something they believe is insane, criminal, highly treasonous, they will do anything to protect their fellow criminal elitists if they believe that the general population knowing all the truth about these crimes would get mad at the elite and may start to revolt.
 

Uhtrinity

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Originally posted by: Votingisanillusion
Originally posted by: judasmachine
You don't even have to fake anyone's voice as almost no one would know what your boogey man sounds like anyway. And those who do would never be believed anyway. I am open minded, I just don't think you can get away with a burning of the Reichstag in more modern times. Well not as successfully as Hitler did.

If you control the mass media, the secret services, the government,...yes you can get away with it. Most people in control of the mass media, in the secret services, in government, are too much affraid of a popular revolution to let the truth about 9/11 escape. Just like when they killed JFK, MLK, RFK. They are elitist: that means that if some of their fellow elitists do something they believe is insane, criminal, highly treasonous, they will do anything to protect their fellow criminal elitists if they believe that the general population knowing all the truth about these crimes would get mad at the elite and may start to revolt.


Big difference between the other conspiracies you mention and this one, if this is a conspiracy it is magitudes more complex, therefore more prone to break.
 

Spike

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Originally posted by: rahvin
Put those tinfoil hats on boys, your a little too deluded for your own good.

Lol. I always picture the kids from "Signs" whenever anyone mentions tinfoil hats
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: Spike
Originally posted by: rahvin
Put those tinfoil hats on boys, your a little too deluded for your own good.

Lol. I always picture the kids from "Signs" whenever anyone mentions tinfoil hats

It isn't just the kids after a while. ;)
 

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What is funny is that noone so far has wondered about the timing of this declaration by this Russian general, former Joint Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces (the current one of course cannot say such a thing for diplomatic reasons).
Maybe he (and Putin behind him) wants you to get rid of Bush (impeachment or revolution?) now to avoid WWIV soon.

Read this article:

Moqtada al-Sadr Enters the Iran Attack Fray
Kurt Nimmo, Another day in the empire

Janaury 22, 2006

It appears the Straussian neocons ensconced in the Pentagon and in the final planning stages of the shock and awe campaign against Iran, on tap for March, have a new complication to consider: "Firebrand Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has assured Iran that his Shi?ite Muslim militiamen will support the Islamic Republic if it comes under attack, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday," Reuters notes. "If neighboring Islamic countries, including Iran, should come under attack, then the Mehdi Army will support them," Sadr said in Tehran.

Sadr?s Mehdi Army or Jaish al-Mahdi consists of roughly 10,000 militia who are in control of several areas of Iraq. In April, 2004, Jaish al-Mahdi began an offensive in Najaf, Kufa, Kut, and Sadr City after the closing of the Sadr-owned newspaper al-Hawza and arresting of one of his senior aides. Jaish al-Mahdi was more or less defeated and Sadr called for a ceasefire, however if Iran is attacked and the occupation forces in Iraq come under attack (a foregone conclusion), the re-activation of Jaish al-Mahdi will certainly complicate things, to say the least.

But then this is what the Straussian neocons desire?the turn up the heat in the Middle East until it explodes into a full-fledged conflagration, thus forcing the United States to go on a full-war (total war) footing.

Unfortunately, when the dollar tumbles precipitously in March, and the shock and awe campaign in Iran shuts down the world?s oil fix, and a depression follows, the American people, hard-pressed and desperate, will do whatever the government wants, including donating their first born to the Straussian neocon plan for world domination, an impossible and demented dream but one that will nonetheless kick off their plan for World War Four.


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rahvin

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Have you considered med's and counsuling? You really should be on lithium or something soon before you degrade further.