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Former Gov. Bob McDonnell and wife found guilty on numerous charges

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There is “blaming the woman,” which is wrong. And then there is blaming the woman, which may well be warranted.

Maureen McDonnell, wife of former Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell, is getting hammered by prosecutors and witnesses at the couple’s corruption trial in Richmond. The pair has been accused of accepting more than $150,000 in gifts and loans from Jonnie Williams, seller of sketchy-sounding nutritional supplements, in return for using the governor’s office to promote said supplements. It’s a somewhat harder case to make against Maureen McDonnell, since she was not the one with actual political power; prosecutors have to show that the McDonnells colluded with each other.

The early testimony against Maureen McDonnell is damning and unflattering, to say the least. Witnesses talk about her angling for Williams to buy her an expensive new dress, and for seating one of her daughters next to Williams at a dinner in hopes that the younger woman, too, might get a dress out of it. She is accused of getting Williams to buy a very expensive Rolex watch so she could give it to her husband as a gift. The actual transactions are so incriminating that the defense has resorted to the most humiliating exculpatory explanation: that Maureen McDonnell was being ignored by her husband and had a “crush” on Williams – meaning the married couple was having such troubles, the two couldn’t possibly have colluded on anything.

The whole sordid tale has Maureen McDonnell looking like a cross between Lady MacBeth and Tracy Flick, the obsessively competitive candidate for high school class president in the movie “Election.” But Maureen McDonnell isn’t being blamed because she’s the woman, and therefore assumed to be at fault for not controlling the man in her life. She’s being accused because there is a great deal of evidence that she was involved in a quid pro quo.

It’s true that women are blamed for all sorts of things for which men are not held accountable. Women are sexually assaulted on campus, and the dialogue turns to whether the women were drunk, as though the decision to over-imbibe excuses criminal violent behavior by a man. A married man has an affair with an unmarried woman, and she is the one accused of being the homewrecker, as though the man could not possibly be expected to resist the temptresses of the world and keep a commitment he made to a marriage. A nine-year-old kid is playing alone in the park, and it is the mother, not the father, who is damned as an unfit parent.

But Maureen McDonnell appears to have had just as much involvement in the alleged scheme as her husband did. This is not an either-or situation; if Maureen McDonnell is found guilty, it won’t be to serve as a sacrificial lamb for the governor. The photos of him proudly wearing the Rolex – and driving a Ferrari Williams lent him – are pretty damning, as well.

Maureen McDonnell isn’t a victim, here – at least, she’s not the victim of a criminal justice system out to blame the woman. If she’s convicted, it will have nothing to do with her gender. And the same may well be true for Bob McDonnell .

Former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife have been found guilty of multiple counts in their corruption trial, with Maureen McDonnell being found not guilty in at least two counts.
The verdicts on all counts are currently being read.
Ten of the 14 counts against the couple have been read thus far. Bob McDonnell has been found guilty of counts 1-10. Maureen McDonnell has been found guilty on eight counts, and not guilty on two counts, 4 and 9.
 
They are each looking at a possible 30 years in prison. But as we have seen in the past they most likely won't spend any real time behind bars. Most politicians don't sadly..
 
They are each looking at a possible 30 years in prison. But as we have seen in the past they most likely won't spend any real time behind bars. Most politicians don't sadly..

Well, at least that's one thing us IL people can be proud of, we've been consistently putting our past governors in prison... oh, wait...
 
Good I agree why do people screw this up and claim not to know. Really, every person on this board that works for a moderate sized company can't accept gifts, especially expensive ones from vendors or business partners why should the Governor be different.
Trinkets and low priced meals do not count.
 
Enjoy the jail time! What's even crazier is their lame defense.

publicly trash their marriage strategy?
if they're at each other throats, how could they join together together to conspire w/these crimes?
 
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hopefully, va doesn't go the way of IL, where 6 out of the last 7 governors went to jail 😱 😡
 
publicly trash their marriage strategy?
if they're at each other throats, how could they join together together to conspire w/these crimes?

Yep, they went with the soap opera defense. They claimed their marriage was over and basically a sham, this despite being seen holding hands and such before the trail. But during the trial they would use separate doors and try and give the appearance of being split up.
 
Most people who pursue power shouldn't be allowed to have it.

I agree with you on quite a few levels, most assuredly on the political one.

It's been my observation that most of those who seek power more often than not will abuse that power out of self interest. In direct comparison, many of those who get handed the reins of power are quite often unaware of their leadership potential and thus become unwilling or hesitant candidates. Yet, through trial by fire and even at times while under fire, they excel at becoming great inspirational leaders simply because those that handed the reins to them were themselves great leaders who through many years of experience understood what it took to be that way and desired to cultivate and promote the ones who naturally had the potential in them.
 
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I'm pleasantly surprised, I was afraid the jury would have been tricked by him throwing his wife under the bus.
 


Generally Former Governors or high level politicians who have been convicted don't spend much time in jail if any. In some cases some have been forgiven or had their punishment reduced by other politicians to help them get out of jail. Anyway just look up former politicians that will have someone pull strings to overturn convictions or give pardons etc.
 
He tried a novel defensive tactic of throwing his wife under the buss forgetting the fact that family values is a pretense conservatives maintain that is too valuable that even a conservative politician was worth wasting to protect. Stick with blaming Twinkies.
 
Mom has been in Virginia for 18 years. She said the wife is a whack job and used to scream at the staff.
Apparently she made her husband miserable too.
 
I haven't really looked into the story, but is the person who did the bribing also being charged with bribing public officials?

It seems that our country would be in slightly better shape if the people who are buying influence had to be very careful that they weren't buying jail time for themselves.
 
I haven't really looked into the story, but is the person who did the bribing also being charged with bribing public officials?

It seems that our country would be in slightly better shape if the people who are buying influence had to be very careful that they weren't buying jail time for themselves.

Dr. Pizza dropping logic bombs now too. I agree Dr. Pizza.
 
Generally Former Governors or high level politicians who have been convicted don't spend much time in jail if any. In some cases some have been forgiven or had their punishment reduced by other politicians to help them get out of jail. Anyway just look up former politicians that will have someone pull strings to overturn convictions or give pardons etc.

True, for the most part, anyway.

Many prison sentences in this country are way too long, anyway, imho.

They're ruined, and if they each only did 6 months time it would all have the same deterrent effect as much longer sentences. Yeh, sure, a career criminal could do 6 months standing on his head, but they're not that kind of criminal.
 
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