Formatting trouble has ruined 2 harddisks????

aakerman

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ARghhhhh.....Everytime I format, something new goes wrong - why is it such a difficult task to format
a harddisk, I wish MS would concentrate all their programmers on making formatting and re-installing
windows an easy task :)

This was my old setup, before I bought my new WD 120GB hd:

My comp = C:\ on a 40gb IBM, D:\ on a 80gb Maxtor
Father's comp: C:\ on a 80gb Maxtor, D:\ on a 80 gb Maxtor
All maxtors are the D740X model.

So I wanted to have my 80gb maxtor as C:\, and the new 120gb as D:\.

After a lot of harddisk switching, involving both my father's and my own comp,
I had transferred all the contents of my previous disks to my new disk, leaving only 10gb
freespace.

So my main object and the only thing left to do, was to format and install windows on my
80gb maxtor... I plugged it in as master, and put my win XP cdrom in the drive...
For the first time ever, that bootable-cd thingy worked, and I thought "aaah finally an
easy format, without having to use bootdisks and the like"... It progressed alright,
and luckily the install prog found and formatted all 80gb of my disk. So after it had finished
copying the file etc, it told me to pull out all disks and restart... I did, but when it was time
for windows to start, it gave me an error, smth like: "Error reading from device"...
So I restarted a few times, same problem...........I tried formatting and installing win XP
again, but to no avail.... Then I found my win2000 cd, which isn't bootable, so I had to use
my old but trusty win98 SE boot diskette. Win2000 install only located around 11-12 GB
of my harddisk for some reason, but I was ready to accept that if only I could get
windows running - it finished copying the files as win xp had did, and I restarted -
Only to get an error saying smth like: "Operating system not found".

So this is my main problem, and I don't know what to do :/
Second problem is with my father's comp - after I re-plugged his old
D:\-drive, it isn't found by windows... the D:\ drive has simply vanished, It is not
even present in Disk Management... I went and looked in the bios, and there it said:

Primary Master: MAXTOR [model number]
Primary Slave: MAXUOS [model number] !
- Notice the exclamation sign and spelling error,
they were present in the bios-screen too, have never seen that b4...

I hope someone will take the time to read this and give me some advice..¨

PS: All the harddrives are less than 6 months old..
 

KF

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>... the only thing left to do, was to format and install windows on my
>80gb maxtor... the install prog found and formatted all 80gb of my disk. So after it had finished
>copying the file etc, it told me to pull out all disks and restart... I did, but when it was time
>for windows to start, it gave me an error, smth like: "Error reading from device"...

You have no master boot record and/or you have no active partition.

Since the 80G had been drive 2, it probably never had a MBR put on it and no partition may
been marked active. Since you did not repartition, XP install did not put a MBR on. XPinstall
will do it if you delete the partitions and remake them. (There are other ways.)

>... after I re-plugged his old D:\-drive, it isn't found by windows...
And you did nothing to the drive?

Reseat the cable connectors and check the jumpers. Try a different cable.

>Primary Master: MAXTOR [model number]
>Primary Slave: MAXUOS [model number] !
>- Notice the exclamation sign and spelling error

U is one letter after T, S is one letter afer R, indicating a one bit error while
reading the identifier.
 

aakerman

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hmm...thx for your replys -
but I think I did repartion!

When win XP asked me, I deleted the old partition it showed me - after that I think
I pressed "create new partition" using maximum of space available = 77 GB or something...,
I guess I could have chosen "install XP on selected partition"; but wouldn't xp automatically
create a proper partition in order to install itself?
¨
But if an MBR is what I need on my drive, how do I achieve it? With something like MaxBlast plus
for instance?
 

NLE

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I may be way out of my league to say this, but have you given a low profile format program a try? These erase every bit of data on your hdd. Though this sounds like it would only work if you take your fathers D drive and hook it up to the way it was before.

LPF Progs = MaxBlast, etc my preferred is Disk Wizard http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/discwiz.html (utilities>zero fill drive) and works with any brand drive.

Good Luck!
-Ricky
 

Dulanic

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It may also be WinXP doesnt have your correct IDE controller drivers... find the drivers, toss em on a disk, and press F6 when the setup starts and load in your IDE drivers.
 

KF

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>But if an MBR is what I need on my drive, how do I achieve it? With something like MaxBlast plus
>for instance?

Boot from the XP CD and select repair or recovery instead of setup. (Press R)

Try these commands:

FIXMBR
FIXBOOT

To see what you partitions you have:
DISKPART

I notice that DISKPART does not show which partitions are primary and which are extended. It also doesn't show if a partition is marked active. Oh well.

W98se FDISK showed the info, but strangely one NTFS partition is listed in addition to the primary and extended partitions. This is something I never knew about. I'm learning more than I wanted to! You too?

>but I think I did repartition!
I have no idea. But I assure you that I have installed XP a dozen times (although never on a HD that did not previously have a MBR previously for one reason or another) and XP always comes up OK. It does find the HD. On the assumption that something is different, I think the install possibly did not put a boot sector on your HD. There is no doubt that it did copy files to the HD, since it got to the point of rebooting.

XP actually runs the XP OS partitioning program (DISKPART) during setup. Perhaps it does not actually change the partitioning info if there is no net change in the partitions. In other words if you delete a partition and recreate it identically.

You didn't perhaps setup the HD without a primary partition on the HD, only an extended? Some people do that on their 2nd HD.

The BIOS is set to boot from the HD, HD0?

You don't have a RAID controller?

This HD never had a disk manager on it?

 

MaestroQuark

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If you wipe all the partitions from your hard drive, then try to install WinXP creating a new partition, it SHOULD create a new MBR to go with the drive. I just recently clean-slated my hard drive, due to a partition changing problem, and never reset to an active partition or an MBR. The WinXP installation did both automatically.
 

faZZter

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For God's sake man get Partition Magic or Norton Ghost/Drive Image and save yourself lots of hassle. g/l
 

aakerman

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thx for your replies guys...

I got it working now - using drivewizard I mirrored my D: drive to look like my C: drive - after that my D: drive could
boot up normally as the master boot drive! Then I formatted my old C: drive, and booted up with the
bootable win2000 cdrom, and now I was able to install win2000 and it booted like it was supposed to...
So I ended up mirroring once again, so now I am surfing happily with windows 2000 professional :))

There's still a problem with my father's computer though... The D: drive is found correctly by the BIOS now,
and in windows too (after a reseating of the cables)... But when I try to access the drive, windows says:
"drive is not formatted, should it be so now?" .. Which is really weird imo, since the drive hasn't done anything
since I took it out, but lie on my desk!