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[sandorski]

Herself and those who know her, life becomes cheapened to the point where fetal body parts become commodities to be sold and traded.



So, your assumption is that I'm conservative? That I want abortion to be illegal? That is false.



A useless ad hominem from a worthless person. :\

Fetal body parts that would other wise go into the garbage. Which is more "cheapened" in your opinion?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I see you trying to avoid the fact that all pre-adolescents live at the bodily expense of the people who care for them and will die if they aren't. You failed.

But that's just false. Like, egregiously so. Are you really that stupid, or are you deliberately misrepresenting reality?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Herself and those who know her, life becomes cheapened to the point where fetal body parts become commodities to be sold and traded.

I'm sorry, but none of this is true anywhere in our universe. You are either literally delusional, or maliciously dishonest.

So, your assumption is that I'm conservative? That I want abortion to be illegal? That is false.

Do you not speak English?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Oh jeez... did you not even READ the caption from the US SURGEON GENERAL in my post that you replied to? If the Surgeon General has never found a single case yet, you can see how next-to-zero rare your smoke-screen example is.

What do you think my "smoke screen" is, exactly? I'll give you a hint: it has nothing to do with the caption in that image. Why don't you read more carefully and try to respond like you have an education.

 

[MagickMan]

These days, SJW's are so ultra-uber-Liberal that even other liberal-thinking people are called conservative by comparison.

Exactly. 10 years ago I was considered to be quite liberal with regards to social matters, and my positions have largely stayed the same. Now I'm cast as a "Right-winger".

 

[MagickMan]

Fetal body parts that would other wise go into the garbage. Which is more "cheapened" in your opinion?

You realize they're shredding the fetus while it's still alive, while it can still feel (because doing it after the fetus is dead makes the parts worthless), right? Are you okay with that? Because I sure as hell am not.

 

[MagickMan]

But that's just false. Like, egregiously so. Are you really that stupid, or are you deliberately misrepresenting reality?

No it isn't, parents work to support their offspring, usually 30-60% more than non-parents. The question is, then, what are you gaining from misrepresenting reality? :\

I'm sorry, but none of this is true anywhere in our universe. You are either literally delusional, or maliciously dishonest.

Can't be bothered to read the news, can you? The bubble you live in that insulates you from the realities of abortion (a booming business that sells actual human flesh) is impressive.

Do you not speak English?

Another puerile ad hominem. You're on a roll!

 

[CitizenKain]

Can't be bothered to read the news, can you? The bubble you live in that insulates you from the realities of abortion (a booming business that sells actual human flesh) is impressive.

Aww look, someone who believes that and admits it. Look at you believing propaganda like a good little follower. Shhh, don't think too hard Magickman, just believe what the edited videos tell you to do.

 

[michal1980]

Aww look, someone who believes that and admits it. Look at you believing propaganda like a good little follower. Shhh, don't think too hard Magickman, just believe what the edited videos tell you to do.

Instead continue to believe the propaganda of PP. Because they wouldn't lie to continue getting government handouts.

 

[CitizenKain]

Instead continue to believe the propaganda of PP. Because they wouldn't lie to continue getting government handouts.

Ahh yes, the propaganda of reality, I can see why you have issues with it. Lets see, one organization is upfront with that they do, another releases edited videos and is full of dishonest people.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm all for abortion being legal, but that doesn't stop it from being a crutch.

Up to the point of birth?
I don't think I could ever condone third trimester without medical need.

 

[MagickMan]

Aww look, someone who believes that and admits it. Look at you believing propaganda like a good little follower. Shhh, don't think too hard Magickman, just believe what the edited videos tell you to do.

I believe the videos I watched with my own eyes and what the PP reps actually said, yes. Why wouldn't I?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I believe the videos I watched with my own eyes and what the PP reps actually said, yes. Why wouldn't I?

The transcripts are out there. Please provide the quotes you are referring to.

I'll provide a couple as an example of what CitizenKain is talking about when he refers to the edited videos. These are directly from the transcripts from PP reps.

"Really their bottom line is, they want to break even. Every penny they save is just pennies they give to another patient. To provide a service the patient wouldn't get,"

"we're not looking to make money from this. Our goal is to keep access available. And if we do something that makes a target, that just removes access for everybody."

"Our goal, like I said, is to give patients the option without impacting our bottom line. The messaging is this should not be seen as a new revenue stream, because that's not what it is."

 

[MagickMan]

Up to the point of birth?
I don't think I could ever condone third trimester without medical need.

What does it matter? If you're going to kill it, kill it. By the established beliefs fostered by the pro-choice movement, at no point is a fetus alive. In essence, it isn't any more dead if you terminate it at 12 weeks than if you snuff it at 39 or 40.

I simply want it all to remain logical and consistent. Abortion should be 100% legal and available from conception all the way up to the hour of delivery. The whole parsing what's moral and what isn't is a load of shit.

 

[MagickMan]

The transcripts are out there. Please provide the quotes you are referring to.

I'll provide a couple as an example of what CitizenKain is talking about when he refers to the edited videos. These are directly from the transcripts from PP reps.

So the fetus parts aren't being sold?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So the fetus parts aren't being sold?

You mean are they permitting PP to be reimbursed a small amount for the safe storage and transportation of fetal tissue in compliance with laws passed by Congress? Yes they are.

Are they selling them for profit to buy Lamborghinis like the right wing narrative has been? No they are not.

I will bet you can't find those quotes, or any of the similar onces lifted from the videos on any conservative site pushing the selling for profit claim.

 

[MagickMan]

What is a "small amount"? $1 for a thigh? $2 for a breast & wing? The fetus is dead when they start sawing it apart, right? Oh, that's right, it isn't. :\

 

[MomentsofSanity]

What is a "small amount"? $1 for a thigh? $2 for a breast & wing?

Is this your way of communicating that you don't have any interest in discussing the topic honestly and rationally based on the merits of what is being presented and the evidence available then?

 

[MagickMan]

I'm just wondering what fresh, sawed from living fetus, parts go for. Is it more than what a lab would pay for cat and dog parts?

 

[MagickMan]

Okay, that may be unfair, and I don't give 2 shits what they're charging for their fetus fricassée, I simply want to know if the little guy (or girl) is given a general anesthetic before they start tearing its limbs off (since the tissue is no longer viable if it's from an already-aborted subject).

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

No it isn't, parents work to support their offspring, usually 30-60% more than non-parents. The question is, then, what are you gaining from misrepresenting reality? :\

That isn't "living at the expense of another person's body." I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're too stupid to know the difference.

Can't be bothered to read the news, can you?

The news has nothing to do with facts of law.

The bubble you live in that insulates you from the realities of abortion (a booming business that sells actual human flesh) is impressive.

What the actual fuck would you know about reality? It's abundantly clear that you haven't been in contact with reality in quite some time.

Another puerile ad hominem. You're on a roll!

Here's an example. You think a question is ad hominem, when it quite literally represents my own suspicions that you cannot reliably parse English sentences. If you could, you would not make such absurd statements.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Is this your way of communicating that you don't have any interest in discussing the topic honestly and rationally on the merits of what is being presented and the evidence available then?

There is no honest and rational opposition to a woman's right to become unpregnant. Thus, we get examples like these stunted oafs, lacking all candor and integrity, moaning and crying because they hate things like the fact that a woman could dare to enjoy sex and engage in it recreationally like men do without some fearful spectre of punishment looming over her, or that a woman might actually have a right to decide for herself the biological and medical state of her body. How dare she? Those aren't human rights, those are men's rights.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

By the established beliefs fostered by the pro-choice movement, at no point is a fetus alive.

An outright lie. Have you no integrity? Have you no shame?

 

[MagickMan]

That isn't "living at the expense of another person's body." I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're too stupid to know the difference.

You don't understand that working more takes a toll on the human body and psyche, yet you're calling me stupid. That's hilarious. Your perceptions are truly fucked.

The news has nothing to do with facts of law.

and the law has nothing to do with what is right or wrong.

What the actual fuck would you know about reality? It's abundantly clear that you haven't been in contact with reality in quite some time.

So irony, much funny. Why are you projecting your insecurities on to me?

Here's an example. You think a question is ad hominem, when it quite literally represents my own suspicions that you cannot reliably parse English sentences. If you could, you would not make such absurd statements.

Another projection. You're so predictable.

 

[thraashman]

and the law has nothing to do with what is right or wrong.

And it's wrong to try to control a woman's body. It's wrong to waste useful biological specimens that could help people. The group that made the video has done the following illegal and immoral things, libel, tax fraud, forgery, illegal recording without consent, and violated a restraining order. The only group you should be complaining about doing something illegal and wrong is this "Center for Medical Progress".