Forget Trump, Focus On Candidates Who Think Women Are Just Breeders

[alien42]

Getting an abortion is a crutch for stupid skanks who can't figure out how rubbers work (or who think that withdrawal is a valid form of birth control).

condoms are 98% effective. considering how many times Americans have sex per day, that is a whole lot of unwanted pregnancies on a daily basis.

the world isn't as simple and black and white as you would like it to be.

 

[Sonikku]

It's a two way street though. Rapists really should be more considerate and put on a rubber.

 

[MagickMan]

I'm all for abortion being legal, but that doesn't stop it from being a crutch.

 

[BoberFett]

That's senator is making quite a stretch.

I disagree with them, but I at least understand the position of pro-lifers. They're typically religious and so they believe that life begins at conception. That's why they believe abortion is murder.

To then leap to saying that believing abortion if murder is the same thing as believe women's only purpose is breeding is truly disingenuous. Either that or the senator is a moron.

 

[HomerJS]

Give me one governor who has stated unequivocally that abortion should be banned even to save the life of the mother.

Support for personhood is defacto saying no exceptions even to save life of the mother. This is by definition of personhood.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Being accountable for being too fucking stupid to use contraception. Coincidentally these are the same nasty shits who pass various types of VD back and forth between each other.



Getting an abortion is a crutch for stupid slappers who can't figure out how rubbers work (or who think that withdrawal is a valid form of birth control).

Have you ever considered being a counselor at a battered woman's shelter? I think you'd be a perfect fit

 

[MagickMan]

Have you ever considered being a counselor at a battered woman's shelter? I think you'd be a perfect fit

Have you ever been to a battered women's shelter? Didn't think so.

 

[Blue_Max]

So few people get pregnant from rape or incest (that are FAR less common than liberally-touted) it's laughable. You're literally using these 0.1% of pregnancies to justify the 99.9% of abortions from completely normal circumstances. It's a farce. Call it what it is.

"Breeders" indeed. *snerk*

I'm not saying it's good or bad, just pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of those involved.

 

[michal1980]

Which politicians ever speak that way? The whole problem is that the public always has to read between the lines to get at the real meaning and if people are really going to give Rubio a pass for not being explicit enough with his views even though it's obvious as fuck what he means then there's no point talking about it at all.

How can you have it both ways?

She is calling them out for "unequivocally" hating women.

Wheres this "unequivocal" proof?

 

[bshole]

That's senator is making quite a stretch.

I disagree with them, but I at least understand the position of pro-lifers. They're typically religious and so they believe that life begins at conception. That's why they believe abortion is murder.
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But how do they make that leap? From a Biblical perspective, life begins at birth not conception. If God was really anti-abortion, he surely would have put in at least a single passage supporting the right to life of the unborn...... he didn't. So they aren't using even of their religious documents for their opinion, instead they listen to the voice in their head that they think is God.

 

[Indus]

In the bible isn't abortion is legal if it's from adultery?

And if Adultery is where the man didn't consent, Rape is where the woman didn't consent.

At this point we're splitting hairs..

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Bleeding breeders?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So few people get pregnant from rape or incest (that are FAR less common than liberally-touted) it's laughable. You're literally using these 0.1% of pregnancies to justify the 99.9% of abortions from completely normal circumstances. It's a farce. Call it what it is.

"Breeders" indeed. *snerk*

I'm not saying it's good or bad, just pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of those involved.

Hey I agree, at this point in human history I highly doubt a birth would kill the mother. There are probably a handful a year that qualify.
I do believe its the mothers choice to have the baby. Why allow people who can afford it go to Canada to get their abortion, what does that solve? Why force someone to have a baby they do not want? What if the baby is going to be born with an agonizing disability? What about a baby with Downs Syndrome? What do we do about mothers that take every over the counter drug possible to make the pregnancy fail?
Abortion has been decided we're all not too comfortable realizing what it is but again its best to allow it.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Being accountable for being too fucking stupid to use contraception.

Is it your contention that the woman breeches a duty by failing to use contraception? To whom is that duty owed?

Coincidentally these are the same nasty shits who pass various types of VD back and forth between each other.

Oh I see, you're just talking out your ass. I guess that's consistent with the ignorant conservative method.

Getting an abortion is a crutch for stupid slappers who can't figure out how rubbers work (or who think that withdrawal is a valid form of birth control).

No, it isn't. You'd probably get along much better if you'd cease wallowing in your angry delusions and join the rest of us here in the real world. I understand that in your case that may require prescription medication, but it is true nonetheless.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

You're literally using these 0.1% of pregnancies to justify the 99.9% of abortions from completely normal circumstances.

Who has done that? Link?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Support for personhood is defacto saying no exceptions even to save life of the mother. This is by definition of personhood.

What person enjoys the right to live at the physical expense of another person's body, even if that results in the death of the person whose body is being expended?

 

[BoberFett]

But how do they make that leap? From a Biblical perspective, life begins at birth not conception. If God was really anti-abortion, he surely would have put in at least a single passage supporting the right to life of the unborn...... he didn't. So they aren't using even of their religious documents for their opinion, instead they listen to the voice in their head that they think is God.

Don't know, don't care. Their opinion is what it is.

But this senator is not just giving her opinion on what she believes, she's giving her opinion on what OTHER people believe.

And she's wrong.

 

[MagickMan]

Is it your contention that the woman breeches a duty by failing to use contraception? To whom is that duty owed?

Herself and those who know her, life becomes cheapened to the point where fetal body parts become commodities to be sold and traded.

Oh I see, you're just talking out your ass. I guess that's consistent with the ignorant conservative method.

So, your assumption is that I'm conservative? That I want abortion to be illegal? That is false.

No, it isn't. You'd probably get along much better if you'd cease wallowing in your angry delusions and join the rest of us here in the real world. I understand that in your case that may require prescription medication, but it is true nonetheless.

A useless ad hominem from a worthless person. :\

 

[MagickMan]

What person enjoys the right to live at the physical expense of another person's body, even if that results in the death of the person whose body is being expended?

I see you trying to avoid the fact that all pre-adolescents live at the bodily expense of the people who care for them and will die if they aren't. You failed.

 

[Blue_Max]

What person enjoys the right to live at the physical expense of another person's body, even if that results in the death of the person whose body is being expended?

Oh jeez... did you not even READ the caption from the US SURGEON GENERAL in my post that you replied to? If the Surgeon General has never found a single case yet, you can see how next-to-zero rare your smoke-screen example is.

Stop using popular dogma and analyze the data available.

As I said, I'm not even making a stance for or against abortion, but quit using dogma instead of clear-thinking logic to base the decision on.

 

[Blue_Max]

Conservative? That I want abortion to be illegal? That is false.

These days, SJW's are so ultra-uber-Liberal that even other liberal-thinking people are called conservative by comparison.

 

[HomerJS]

So few people get pregnant from rape or incest (that are FAR less common than liberally-touted) it's laughable. You're literally using these 0.1% of pregnancies to justify the 99.9% of abortions from completely normal circumstances. It's a farce. Call it what it is.

"Breeders" indeed. *snerk*

I'm not saying it's good or bad, just pointing out the absurdity and hypocrisy of those involved.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741

 

[Blackjack200]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741

God, I remember when that happened. Horrifying.

Won't get through to BM though. He's too worried about "SJW"s and "Uber-uber liberals"

 

[Blue_Max]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741

One. One huge example, and a poor one at that... she and her husband were certain that abortion would cure her illness, Septicaemia, as opposed to the antibiotics anyone else would use for this disease.
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Septicaemia

Not only is pregnancy not a cause for the disease, abortion may likely increase the risk of making an existing outbreak even worse since abortion temporarily increases risk of infection. http://www.sepsisalliance.org/sepsis_and/pregnancy/

So, just because the family insists abortion was the cure-all, doesn't mean the doctors would agree - and they didn't.

That was an interesting study into Sepsis and pregnancy though... now to see if any genuine examples can be found to support your claim.

[inquisitive mode engaged]

 

[Blue_Max]

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/13/2001191/beatriz-abortion-el-salvador/
This would've been a much better example, HomerJS.

Like I said, I'm not necessarily for or against and I'd certainly support the abortion for the above example - mother is already in critically poor health and the fetus was deformed and won't survive anyway. And guess what? She'd have no problem getting that abortion here.

Perhaps C. Everett Koop's quote is because most of his service was pre-internet so he was only up on events in the USA. Plus, these events are VERY rare so I still find it disingenuous to hold up the 0.1% of cases in order to defend the 99.9% where it's merely a personal choice, not a medical NEED.

Again - not saying it's good/bad, just trying to slice the dogma out of the equation and toss it in the trash where it belongs. Make decisions based on truth, not popular theory and dogma.

[EDIT] And according to this study (the first I've found in this short search) the percentage of abortions for the reason "maternal health" (uncertain if that's mother's reason given or doctor-sanctioned yet, could skew results) the average was a little over 2% of those abortions. Not quite the 0.1% I suspected, but this research is only just beginning.

Interestingly, though, those rape babies ARE as rare as I suspected. That was neat.

and,
Over 90% of abortions in Canada are done in the first trimester; only 2-3% are done after 16 weeks, and no doctor performs abortions past 20 or 21 weeks unless there are compelling health or genetic reasons. The risk of maternal mortality is probably greater in carrying a pregnancy to term (7.06 per 100 000 live births) than the risk associated with abortion (0.56 per 100 000 terminations) (Grimes D. Am J Obstet Gynecol 2006; 194: 92-94).

Hey - you asked for it.