Ford's Black Monday Announced...

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'Black Monday' looms over Ford's future

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Ford Motor Co. today unveiled a sweeping North American restructuring plan that includes slashing up to 30,000 manufacturing jobs, cutting 4,000 salaried positions, and closing 14 factories, including an assembly plant in Wixom.

The long-awaited plan titled "Way Forward? is designed to return Ford's North American operations to profitability by 2008. Those operations posted a pre-tax loss of $1.6 billion last year, the company said.

Ford Chairman Bill Ford Jr. said the dramatic cutbacks are needed to improve productivity and reduce costs at the 103-year-old automaker.

?We will be making painful sacrifices to protect Ford"s heritage and secure our future,? Bill Ford said in a statement.

Ford?s U.S. market share has been dropping steadily for a decade, falling to an historic low of 17 percent last year. In its announcement, Ford said it will reduce North American manufacturing capacity by 1.2 million units - or 26 percent - by 2008.

The company said it will cease production at 14 manufacturing facilities by 2012, including seven vehicle assembly plants.

The first factories slated for closure include the Wixom assembly plant in suburban Detroit, as well as assembly plants in Atlanta, Ga., and St. Louis, Mo. Two additional assembly plants will be added later this year to the first wave of shutdowns.

Overall, Ford expects to reduce its North American hourly workforce by 25,000 to 30,000 people by 2012.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060123/AUTO01/601230407






Ten plants, 25,000 jobs ride on Bill Ford's 'Way Forward' strategy to be announced Monday.

Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News
January 22, 2006

Ford Motor Co. workers already have a name for tomorrow.

"It's Black Monday," said Mark Mockaitis, a line worker at Ford's assembly plant in St. Paul, Minn.

Like workers from Wixom to St. Louis to Mexico, Mockaitis is anxiously awaiting Monday morning when Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Bill Ford Jr. takes the podium in Dearborn to outline a massive restructuring plan he calls the "Way Forward."

As The Detroit News first reported Dec. 7, Ford will shutter at least 10 assembly and parts plants and cut at least 25,000 blue-collar jobs in North America over the next five years, according to people familiar with the plan.

The automaker also plans to cut 4,000 salaried jobs by April 1. The layoffs begin this week. Ford also will commit to reducing its number of top executives by March 1.

While workers like Mockaitis wonder where their jobs will be tomorrow, Wall Street waits to see whether the plan goes far enough.

The company that led America to greatness and put the world on wheels now faces one of the biggest challenges in its 103-year history. And for Bill Ford, the great-grandson of Henry Ford, the stakes are not only the fate of a storied company, but the legacy of one of America's last great dynasties.

"It's the most serious crisis at Ford in modern times," said David Cole, head of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor. "I think they view this as a last shot."

The situation could hardly be more critical. Ford's market value has plunged by an astonishing $40 billion since 2001. Its North American automotive business is hemorrhaging cash and market share.

Ford posted a net profit of $1.88 billion for the first nine months of 2005, but its North American unit has lost more than $1.4 billion before taxes. The numbers are expected to look even grimmer Monday when final 2005 financial results are reported.

Meanwhile, Ford's domestic brands -- Ford, Lincoln and Mercury -- saw their combined share of the U.S. market fall 4.7 percent last year, from 18.3 percent in 2004 to 17.4 percent in 2005. A decade earlier, Ford's market share stood at nearly 25.6 percent. Every percentage point of market share represents 170,000 vehicles.

"We do have a North American auto business issue and we are committed to fixing that," Bill Ford said. "It's going to be painful for some people."

So far, Ford has responded by cutting its white-collar work force, selling its Hertz rental car business and reshuffling senior management. But one fundamental reality remains unchanged.

Ford's North American manufacturing operations still look a lot like they did when the company built one out of every four cars and trucks on the road. Ford has the factory capacity to build 4.5 million vehicles in North America, but produced just 3.3 million last year. As a result, Ford's factory utilization rate is the lowest in the industry -- just 79 percent, Harbour Consulting said last week.

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SampSon

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It's really amusing and sad watching the domestic car manufacturers slowly but surely fail.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: SampSon
It's really amusing and sad watching the domestic car manufacturers slowly but surely fail.

Not amusing to me at all; it is fvking disagraceful and utterly embarrassing....
 

Nightfall

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SampSon
It's really amusing and sad watching the domestic car manufacturers slowly but surely fail.

Not amusing to me at all; it is fvking disagraceful and utterly embarrassing....

QFT
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SampSon
It's really amusing and sad watching the domestic car manufacturers slowly but surely fail.

Not amusing to me at all; it is fvking disagraceful and utterly embarrassing....

Couldn't have anything to do with unions imposing a labor cost on them that means they just can't compete with overseas manufacturers, could it?
 

orion23

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This is what happens when spoiled and lazy people in america are paid a lot of money to do a simple job that could be done 5 times cheaper and more efficiently if it weren't for all the stupid laws, unions and general BS that american employers have to put up with.

Workers can now complain about stress and go home for a few weeks (paid) until they feel better and ready to work.

Workers can almost not be told what to do, or to do things better in fear that they'll complain about abuse or sweatshop conditions
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: orion23
This is what happens when spoiled and lazy people in america are paid a lot of money to do a simple job that could be done 5 times cheaper and more efficiently if it weren't for all the stupid laws, unions and general BS that american employers have to put up with.

Workers can now complain about stress and go home for a few weeks (paid) until they feel better and ready to work.

Workers can almost not be told what to do, or to do things better in fear that they'll complain about abuse or sweatshop conditions

While I agree with you to certain extent, almost any job in the US can be done cheaper elsewhere.
 

Looney

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I don't know how you guys can keep blaming the unions. How exactly does the union cause sh1tty styling? How does the union workers cause electrical failures? Are they that bad that they're working on the job drunk?
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Looney
I don't know how you guys can keep blaming the unions. How exactly does the union cause sh1tty styling? How does the union workers cause electrical failures? Are they that bad that they're working on the job drunk?


its documented even in Honda's vehicles, the ones that are built in N.A. are less reliable and built shoddier than the non N.A. vehicles.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Looney
I don't know how you guys can keep blaming the unions. How exactly does the union cause sh1tty styling? How does the union workers cause electrical failures? Are they that bad that they're working on the job drunk?


its documented even in Honda's vehicles, the ones that are built in N.A. are less reliable and built shoddier than the non N.A. vehicles.

Where is this documented?
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Looney
I don't know how you guys can keep blaming the unions. How exactly does the union cause sh1tty styling? How does the union workers cause electrical failures? Are they that bad that they're working on the job drunk?


its documented even in Honda's vehicles, the ones that are built in N.A. are less reliable and built shoddier than the non N.A. vehicles.

Where is this documented?

i would have to do some good googling to find this info.

 

compuwiz1

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They'd better start focusing on building quality vehicles that Americans like, which compete in the global market place price wise, or they are facing imminent doom.
If the products, marketing and price were up to par, they would not be in the predicament. That goes, union or no union. The markup the factory charges to the dealer is more than what the dealer makes on the vehicle when they sell it. I believe if they could produce the proper quality vehicle, with desirable models, they could cut the unions out, still pay the workers well, and pick up mass volumes of sales. Unfortunately, now it's slipped so far, it's going to be quite the task to earn the confidence of the American buyer back.
It is an embarrasment. :(
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
They'd better start focusing on building quality vehicles that Americans like, which compete in the global market place price wise, or they are facing imminent doom.
If the products, marketing and price were up to par, they would not be in the predicament. That goes, union or no union. The markup the factory charges to the dealer is more than what the dealer makes on the vehicle when they sell it. I believe if they could produce the proper quality vehicle, with desirable models, they could cut the unions out, still pay the workers well, and pick up mass volumes of sales. Unfortunately, now it's slipped so far, it's going to be quite the task to earn the confidence of the American buyer back.
It is an embarrasment. :(

GM is doing it.

HHR is a HUGE seller. absolutely HUGE. and its selling with NO rebates.
and then you have Solstice/Sky (small market though, but selling strong)
the new Tahoe will sell huge. absolutely .
Lucerne will catch on and be pretty good.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SampSon
It's really amusing and sad watching the domestic car manufacturers slowly but surely fail.

Not amusing to me at all; it is fvking disagraceful and utterly embarrassing....

Couldn't have anything to do with unions imposing a labor cost on them that means they just can't compete with overseas manufacturers, could it?



you would think eeryone could have noticed my ellusion to that...I jsut didn't want to sound cliche....
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
They'd better start focusing on building quality vehicles that Americans like, which compete in the global market place price wise, or they are facing imminent doom.
If the products, marketing and price were up to par, they would not be in the predicament. That goes, union or no union. The markup the factory charges to the dealer is more than what the dealer makes on the vehicle when they sell it. I believe if they could produce the proper quality vehicle, with desirable models, they could cut the unions out, still pay the workers well, and pick up mass volumes of sales. Unfortunately, now it's slipped so far, it's going to be quite the task to earn the confidence of the American buyer back.
It is an embarrasment. :(

GM is doing it.

HHR is a HUGE seller. absolutely HUGE. and its selling with NO rebates.
and then you have Solstice/Sky (small market though, but selling strong)
the new Tahoe will sell huge. absolutely .
Lucerne will catch on and be pretty good.


I don't see big SUV's making a recovery anytime soon, especially if the gas prices continue to rise.
 

Syringer

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So is it costs that are high due to unions and what not, or have profits gone down from a lack of desiribility, or both?

Also, how are German auto unions? I know Germany as a whole is much more liberal when it comes to work and all that..how are they affected?
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: SampSon
It's really amusing and sad watching the domestic car manufacturers slowly but surely fail.

It's not as though they haven't had any warning. I just shake my head at the number of gas guzzling vehicles the big 3 continue to churn out despite all the warnings of high gas prices. It doesn't take a genius to see where things are heading. The days of the giant SUV and those stupid lifted 4x4 trucks are numbered.

I, for one, welcome our Toyota and Honda overlords.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The very unions that helped them are the ones that ultimately destroyed them.

Wow, I actually agree with you! I feel like stopping what I'm doing and writing down how I feel.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
They'd better start focusing on building quality vehicles that Americans like, which compete in the global market place price wise, or they are facing imminent doom.
If the products, marketing and price were up to par, they would not be in the predicament. That goes, union or no union. The markup the factory charges to the dealer is more than what the dealer makes on the vehicle when they sell it. I believe if they could produce the proper quality vehicle, with desirable models, they could cut the unions out, still pay the workers well, and pick up mass volumes of sales. Unfortunately, now it's slipped so far, it's going to be quite the task to earn the confidence of the American buyer back.
It is an embarrasment. :(

GM is doing it.

HHR is a HUGE seller. absolutely HUGE. and its selling with NO rebates.
and then you have Solstice/Sky (small market though, but selling strong)
the new Tahoe will sell huge. absolutely .
Lucerne will catch on and be pretty good.


I don't see big SUV's making a recovery anytime soon, especially if the gas prices continue to rise.

At 15/21 MPG you are in full size car highway MPG, and then you throw in the hybrid tahoe which gets 20/25 or so i will guess at, and you are completely in full size car territory

GM and Toyota went opposite ways with their Hybrid SUV's

Toyota went for additional torque, and GM went for more MPG, which will win? ill guess that the additional MPG will.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
They'd better start focusing on building quality vehicles that Americans like, which compete in the global market place price wise, or they are facing imminent doom.
If the products, marketing and price were up to par, they would not be in the predicament. That goes, union or no union. The markup the factory charges to the dealer is more than what the dealer makes on the vehicle when they sell it. I believe if they could produce the proper quality vehicle, with desirable models, they could cut the unions out, still pay the workers well, and pick up mass volumes of sales. Unfortunately, now it's slipped so far, it's going to be quite the task to earn the confidence of the American buyer back.
It is an embarrasment. :(

GM is doing it.

HHR is a HUGE seller. absolutely HUGE. and its selling with NO rebates.
and then you have Solstice/Sky (small market though, but selling strong)
the new Tahoe will sell huge. absolutely .
Lucerne will catch on and be pretty good.


I don't see big SUV's making a recovery anytime soon, especially if the gas prices continue to rise.

While I'd agree with you, the Tahoe really is an excellent vehicle. It's probably one of the best mass produced vehicles to come out of GM in a LONG, LONG, time. There are no excuses or compromises with that car. You can't say "its a good car but....", there are no buts. Its going to be a homerun.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
They'd better start focusing on building quality vehicles that Americans like, which compete in the global market place price wise, or they are facing imminent doom.
If the products, marketing and price were up to par, they would not be in the predicament. That goes, union or no union. The markup the factory charges to the dealer is more than what the dealer makes on the vehicle when they sell it. I believe if they could produce the proper quality vehicle, with desirable models, they could cut the unions out, still pay the workers well, and pick up mass volumes of sales. Unfortunately, now it's slipped so far, it's going to be quite the task to earn the confidence of the American buyer back.
It is an embarrasment. :(

GM is doing it.

HHR is a HUGE seller. absolutely HUGE. and its selling with NO rebates.
and then you have Solstice/Sky (small market though, but selling strong)
the new Tahoe will sell huge. absolutely .
Lucerne will catch on and be pretty good.


I don't see big SUV's making a recovery anytime soon, especially if the gas prices continue to rise.

While I'd agree with you, the Tahoe really is an excellent vehicle. It's probably one of the best mass produced vehicles to come out of GM in a LONG, LONG, time. There are no excuses or compromises with that car. You can't say "its a good car but....", there are no buts. Its going to be a homerun.

ill even give the Tahoe a few "buts" but thats because the old tahoe had them as well.
these are:
Rear door entry is still small
third row seating is still small

ONE weak part is the dashboard is sorta shoddy built quality, and sorta weak (irght where the two panels meet)

everything else was almost PERFECT to me.