Ford Edge Lift Points?

[Zorba]

Does anyone know where the lift points on a ford edge are? I got roped into do into doing the brakes on my Mom's 2007 Ford Edge, but can't find any information on where to lift. Everyone just says to use the pinch welds, but I doubt pinch weld area will be big enough for a floor jack pad and a jack stand. So there would be no way to transfer the car from the jack to the stand.

Youtube and Google have failed me, and my library doesn't have the Chilton's book, which I can't remember if lift points are normally given in the guide books or not.

 

[phucheneh]

Pinch welds are usually a bad place to use in the driveway. Jacks crush them easier than the pads on most shop's racks.

Frankly, I'm of the opinion that cars should be mandated to have four obvious, sturdy lift points. Way too many cars these days need 'creative' racking even on a properly-sized commercial lift (to clarify my shop-speak: 'rack' as a verb usually means 'set the lift arms in place,' whereas 'rack' and 'lift' as nouns are interchangeable). Honda is a good example of this- four pieces of steel plate with a level edge that never bends or deforms. Thank you, Honda.

Part of it has to do with how easy it can be to hit critical stuff when you're forced to lift a car further inboard, at the 'frame rails.' I.e. the boxed rails on either side of the center tunnel that the front and rear subframes usually bolt to.

I don't remember what a Ford Edge really looks like underneath, but said pseudo-framerail is probably a safe bet. The more experience you get with different vehicles, the easier it tends to become to identify 'structure.' On a typical unibody, that's a lot of stuff. Hell, some cars can be lifted by the floorpans without incident. I'm NOT recommending that anyone do that...just seen it done by accident without any serious consequences. Also seen the mentioned boxed rails become crushed from lifting...it's a crapshoot.

Lemme google up some images and I'll tell you where I'd lift it...

 

[phucheneh]

Well hell, I can't find any pics of a Ford Edge undercarriage...

Ford probably specifies the pinch weld. If you want to avoid crushing it, get a 'pinch weld adapter' for your jack. It greatly aids safety by locking the pad of jack in place and distributing the weight better (i.e. not just across the edges of the cup on your stock jack.).

The question, of course, then becomes...where do I put the stand while the jack is under the lift point? Yeah, manufacturers don't really plan on that...I would probably recommend saving the pinch weld for the stand and jacking by the subframe, if possible (in front). Right on the subframe mount (rear corner of subframe, probably with an 18mm bolt head going up into the body) is probably gonna be your best bet.

edit: I still say the inner rail is okay, but technically I think that's not recommended, as it is not an actual 'frame rail,' but merely a reinforcement for the floor. As stated, they CAN deform a bit. Also on the list of 'not supposed to, but mechanics do it all day long': lower A-arms.

 

[Zorba]

This is one reason why I like my Subarus, easy to find well positioned lift points. That are in exactly the same place on every Subaru.

Edit: Since I am just doing brakes, I may just jack it and leave it on the jack, one wheel at a time, if I can't figure out anything better. Or if I use the crappy scissor jack I would probably have enough room to get a stand next to it.

I am sure most shops would just use the inner "frame" rail and not worry about it, but knowing my luck the jack would go right through the floor.

 

[LTC8K6]

Align the slot on top of the jack
with the sheet metal flange
indicated by the jack locator triangle
next to the tire you are changing.

Looks like the jacking points are marked by triangles.

 

[Zorba]

Looks like the jacking points are marked by triangles.

I haven't been able to look at the actual car yet, but the triangles are on the pinch welds. I've never seen a car where the reenforced area on the pinch weld is large enough for a floor jack and a jack stand, so if the pinch welds are the only jack points, there is no way to transfer the load to a jack stand.

 

[sontakke]

Here is your chance to buy new tool to solve this particular problem. Be sitting down when you click on the price though

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