Forced to Use Birth Bathroom

[bshole]

The first man who isn't transgendered I find in the women's bathroom with my wife and daughter is going to have to dial 911 himself by time I'm done with him. That stance isn't any different now than what it was before all these ordinances for Trans rights or Laws against them.

So.... how would you find them in the women's bathroom if you weren't also in the women's bathroom? Me thinks ye protest too much. Remember that most violent gay bashing politicians/reverends turn out to be closet queens 50% of the time.

 

[werepossum]

http://www.king5.com/news/man-womens-locker-room-cites-gender-rule/65533111

This man entered a woman's room in Seattle at a public pool and started to undress. He did so out of protest of the local ordinance allowing trans people to use the bathroom of choice for the sex they identify with.

Keep in mind something. Prior to this ordinance he would have been arrested for doing so. He isn't trans. He isn't gay.

He made a valid point in what he did. It does expose public safety issues. Transgender people make up less than 1% of the population. They have no inherent right to use the bathroom of their choice if that choice makes a larger part of the population give up their rights to privacy and security. I'm all for people not being discriminated against, but at some point there are barriers that should exist. If it is a unisex bathroom, they can have at it.

The first man who isn't transgendered I find in the women's bathroom with my wife and daughter is going to have to dial 911 himself by time I'm done with him. That stance isn't any different now than what it was before all these ordinances for Trans rights or Laws against them.

I don't agree with the NC state law as it prevent those discriminated against from bringing their complaint through the state courts and it forces them to file their complaint with the federal gov't. More importantly, they way the law was written it applies not just to transgender people but pretty much anyone.. Blacks, females, gays, muslims, etc in regard to that limitation.

We don't need ordinances creating rights and we don't need laws taking them away. I'll support gay rights etc... But this shit is just utter nonsense.

Granted, laws allowing people to select their gender of the moment and pretend that it is different from their sex are stupid laws. But laws requiring people to use the facilities appropriate to their birth certificate status can be bad too, as a person begins to transition. I don't know if it still the case, but didn't one used to have to live as the opposite sex for a year before doctors would begin hormone treatments or consider surgery? What do we do with those folks?

In any case, surely the laws need to be tailored to driver's license or other government photo ID rather than to birth certificate, to recognize the inherent differences between restrooms and changing rooms/showers, and to recognize that those in transition are fundamentally different from those finished transitioning and into maintenance as the sex of choice. Just because people write stupid laws on the far left isn't a good reason to write one's own stupid law on the far right.

 

[Sonikku]

Someone taking all their clothes off in the bathroom seems kind of strange. How is that a trans issue? It reeks of a "Your argument is invalid, I made a snowball out of my freezer" sort of logic.

 

[werepossum]

Someone taking all their clothes off in the bathroom seems kind of strange. How is that a trans issue? It reeks of a "Your argument is invalid, I made a snowball out of my freezer" sort of logic.

It's a changing room at a public pool; taking off one's clothes is its purpose. Although a lot of these for women have private changing and/or potty rooms and a communal locker space.

 

[KMFJD]

Just you wait. People will be marrying toasters as foretold... any day now.

Any. Day. :hmm:

That day is today (well a year ago actually)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_xfhCWFVN0

Which Atot member gave him this idea?