[Forbes] The $999 4K Gaming GPU - AMD's 295X2 Now $2000 Cheaper Than Nvidia's Titan-Z

piesquared

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Vesuvius is faster, better frame pacing (smoother), cooler, quieter, XDMA, and a host of next gen features like FreeSync support, Mantle support, TrueAudio support. It seems like nvidia is ripping off their loyal fanbase. The R9 295X2 is the same price as a run of the mill Titan black (shamelessly stolen from AMD marketing), and twice as fast! Of course 1 Hawaii chip is about 20% smaller than GK110 but that's nvidia's problem, not their customers.

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It seems like nvidia is ripping off their loyal fanbase.

You don't say.

What's really weird, is that it's just a high income badge. 295X (or combinations of 290x) is obviously the ultimate performance GPU crown in the world today, but people always like to buy something expensive to show off.

And... something something "professional card, what a value!" someone will probably say. I guess.
 

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I suppose. Personally, I have far better things to do with $2000 than throw it away. Not sure why nv's fanbase would support that kind of extortion. They should let this sink in: 3 titanz's cost $10,000 while 3 R9 295x2's cost $3000. The price of a single titanz. :cookoo:
 

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Technically, Titan is the cheapest way to get a high performance double precision offering for CUDA. I don't think any professional apps take advantage of that.

As far as professional apps people use, well those are mostly OpenGL, and Titan is no Quadro as far as OpenGL support. AMD's consumer cards might actually have better support for pro OpenGL features.
CUDA is supported I suppose, but there's little that uses CUDA that actually runs substantially better on a Titan than other nvidia cards.
Well, you do get a lot of memory with Titan cards, so there's that. You can probably render 8K resolution content easily.
 

piesquared

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True on Cuda, but one mustn't forget that OpenCL performance on Radeon cards destroys GeForce and I think it's a forgone conclusion that OpenCL 2.0 will leverage GCN to the fullest. To your point though it doesn't seem to make much sense for nv to Osbourne their Quadro line, and nv is marketing titanz as a gaming card.
 

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Technically, Titan is the cheapest way to get a high performance double precision offering for CUDA. I don't think any professional apps take advantage of that.

Titan Black is the card to get. You can get two Titan Blacks to get higher performance than the Titan Z, significantly cheaper.
 

Subyman

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I heard a recent podcast from PC Gamer that had some Nvidia reps as guests. The hosts asked them how they justified the huge price over the 295x2. They rolled out the tired car analogs (Ferrari costs more per horsepower than a civic, yadda yadda.) Then they were asked again what specific features justified the huge price premium not only over AMD but their own cards and they responded by saying the cooler was really good lol. Not even Nvidia's marketing guys can figure out how the spin the price.
 

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Technically, Titan is the cheapest way to get a high performance double precision offering for CUDA. I don't think any professional apps take advantage of that.

As far as professional apps people use, well those are mostly OpenGL, and Titan is no Quadro as far as OpenGL support. AMD's consumer cards might actually have better support for pro OpenGL features.
CUDA is supported I suppose, but there's little that uses CUDA that actually runs substantially better on a Titan than other nvidia cards.
Well, you do get a lot of memory with Titan cards, so there's that. You can probably render 8K resolution content easily.

CUDA /= double precision. Most apps using CUDA make no use of DP.
 
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So how would SLI GTX 780Ti compare to the 295X2? That would seem like the most cost effective solution from nVidia.