For those who don't have children

[CorCentral]

But it's just the opposite ............ Why ?

Does'nt China/Japan have something where the family is paid not to have children ? ?

Your thoughts ?

 

[Ogi]

overpoppulation is not as much of a problem here as it is there.

Ogi

 

[CorCentral]

I'm just kind'a mad that my wife & I are Penalized for NOT having children & the one's that do have them, get break after break after break !


No kids = less waste, pollution & garbage for starters.

 

[ReiAyanami]

but you're depriving them of their future tax payers and soldiers

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
but you're depriving them of their future tax payers and soldiers

Nice little shot at the Bush Administration I assume?

 

[CorCentral]

Does anyone agree with me here? Or does everyone here have kids ?

Nothing about Bush/Kerry................ Please respond with what you think, even if you have kids.


My wife & I buy alot of Toys/Electronics/Home Improvement & we recently bought a new car with cash (Nissan350z) that adds up to thousands during the year that aid in taxes and we don't have kids but are hit come tax time because we don't have 2-4 like everyone else! .......... What gives ?


Why do people with kids get the breaks & we without kids do not ?
I hate to put it this way but kids cause Pollution. So why do you with kids get breaks while my wife & I get none ?!?

 

[zephyrprime]

My wife & I buy alot of Toys/Electronics/Home Improvement & we recently bought a new car with cash (Nissan350z)

And you're complaining about kids causing pollution?

 

[NeoV]

Families with children have more expenses = less disposable income = tax breaks

You aren't being penalized for not having children, you just aren't getting a tax break, but you have fewer expenses anyway.

I really don't see what the big deal is.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Does anyone agree with me here? Or does everyone here have kids ?

Nothing about Bush/Kerry................ Please respond with what you think, even if you have kids.


My wife & I buy alot of Toys/Electronics/Home Improvement & we recently bought a new car with cash (Nissan350z) that adds up to thousands during the year that aid in taxes and we don't have kids but are hit come tax time because we don't have 2-4 like everyone else! .......... What gives ?


Why do people with kids get the breaks & we without kids do not ?
I hate to put it this way but kids cause Pollution. So why do you with kids get breaks while my wife & I get none ?!?

Do you have any idea how much money it causes to raise children? Maybe when you have some, you will stop complaining.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
I'm just kind'a mad that my wife & I are Penalized for NOT having children & the one's that do have them, get break after break after break !

No kids = less waste, pollution & garbage for starters.

You are not being "penalized" for not having children. That's like complaining you are being "penalized" because a car dealer is giving $1500 rebates on all purchases, and you don't want to buy a car. It doesn't make any sense.

And trust me, we don't get "break, after break, after break." Raising kids cost a *lot* of money, and these kids are our future doctors, scientists, teachers, general laborers, etc. Without getting all sappy and feel-good, they are the future of our country and world. And as much as I am against most social programs, I think it is quite alright for parents to receive a small bit of subsidized tax relief.

Are you also against public schools? I mean, your taxes are going to pay for someone else's kids to be educated!

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: CorCentral
I'm just kind'a mad that my wife & I are Penalized for NOT having children & the one's that do have them, get break after break after break !

No kids = less waste, pollution & garbage for starters.

You are not being "penalized" for not having children. That's like complaining you are being "penalized" because a car dealer is giving $1500 rebates on all purchases, and you don't want to buy a car. It doesn't make any sense.

And trust me, we don't get "break, after break, after break." Raising kids cost a *lot* of money, and these kids are our future doctors, scientists, teachers, general laborers, etc. Without getting all sappy and feel-good, they are the future of our country and world. And as much as I am against most social programs, I think it is quite alright for parents to receive a small bit of subsidized tax relief.

and more importantly, future tax payers

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: charrison

and more importantly, future tax payers

That may be a little bit of a harsh way to think about it, but it is still true. I mean, these are the same kids who will be paying for our Social Security when we get old and retire


Hehe, just kidding.. everyone knows that SS will be nonexistent when we retire.

 

[3chordcharlie]

why would a country with near-negative population growth, and no over-crowding, provide incentives for not having children?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
why would a country with near-negative population growth, and no over-crowding, provide incentives for not having children?

I think because the original poster doesn't have kids, but wants some tax breaks.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
but you're depriving them of their future tax payers and soldiers

Nice little shot at the Bush Administration I assume?

Last I checked, we had tax payers and soldiers under other presidents too.

 

[rextilleon]

You live in a community, and in that community there are kids. And those kids have needs. You also live in a country and the kids are the future of that country and the future of our species. Look at it this way, you are contributing to the welfare of this nations future. Pay your taxes and enjoy life.

 

[Isla]

Consider this:

In order to raise healthy, productive human beings who will contribute to society, we have to put forth a lot of time and resources.

I don't go to the movie theatres very often (maybe twice a year!) but my children do. I don't need new clothes as I grow (hopefully, lol) but my children do. A humongous part of my life is spent making sure my children have the foundation they need to be the people who will help take care of the world when we are old and no longer able.

It is 100% worth it to me, and I also appreciate the little bit of a break I get for feeding, clothing, housing, and training the next generation.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: rextilleon
You live in a community, and in that community there are kids. And those kids have needs. You also live in a country and the kids are the future of that country and the future of our species. Look at it this way, you are contributing to the welfare of this nations future. Pay your taxes and enjoy life.

If the kids of our future are like the idiot kids who post over at ATOT we are DOOMED!!!!

 

[nageov3t]

I don't mind not getting tax breaks... but at the same time, when congress introduces tax breaks for the super wealthy and for families, it provides no reason for me to continue vote for these politicians.

as a single male in my mid-20's, I've accepted the fact that politicians don't care about my demographic.

 

[Cogman]

There of course is two sides of this coin. If parents are able to afford a little more for their kids then the kids are generally going to be a little better. However parents do (or should) play a major role in the upbringing of children. there are, however, parents out there that do not give a whoot about their kids and only have them for the tax relief (I knew of two such families, both bringing in under minimum wage, one had about 7 kids, the other was adopting foster kids, and both where bringing in forien exchange students. Neither had very big homes or very steady income)

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Does anyone agree with me here? Or does everyone here have kids ?

Nothing about Bush/Kerry................ Please respond with what you think, even if you have kids.


My wife & I buy alot of Toys/Electronics/Home Improvement & we recently bought a new car with cash (Nissan350z) that adds up to thousands during the year that aid in taxes and we don't have kids but are hit come tax time because we don't have 2-4 like everyone else! .......... What gives ?


Why do people with kids get the breaks & we without kids do not ?
I hate to put it this way but kids cause Pollution. So why do you with kids get breaks while my wife & I get none ?!?

My wife and I don't have kids. But you have to understand that its benificial for society for couples to have children and then be able to provide for them. In fact its EXTREMELY important for the future of the country that kids be brought up in strong homes. Financial strain doesn't help that process, hence tax breaks. Its really not that big of a deal, even having to pay several hundred more you have far more income to spend on yourselves than couples with children do. For the good of society we have to pay things that we might not benefit from.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
I'm just kind'a mad that my wife & I are Penalized for NOT having children & the one's that do have them, get break after break after break !


No kids = less waste, pollution & garbage for starters.

My b/f has never been married, and has no kids. He is self employed and his TAXES are higher than my SALARY. His property tax is almost $5,000.00 per year, 53% of which is for education. He works up to 15 hours a day and hasn't had a pay raise in six year, cause if he gets an extra $50.00 per week, he will bring home less money.

Now, he doesn't mind paying his fair share to support other people's kids... but it is really beyond a joke.



edit: I don't know if I necessarily agree with the not be penalized idea. I agree with strong families, and our future and all. I agree with everyone chipping in. I also agree helping those that are less fortunate. But it seems that the way the tex system is set up presently, those that don't have kids pay for those that do. And when money is short for paying for those kids, they take more from the ones that don't have kids, because they tend to have more money.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
why would a country with near-negative population growth, and no over-crowding, provide incentives for not having children?

Are you talking about the US? It doesn't have anything like a near-negative population growth as a whole. It's expected future population is very large.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
why would a country with near-negative population growth, and no over-crowding, provide incentives for not having children?

Are you talking about the US? It doesn't have anything like a near-negative population growth as a whole. It's expected future population is very large.

Mostly due to immigration, which most American's would like to curtail

The birth-rate is actually very low, which is leading to a top-heavy age-distribution and impending health-care system overload. It's the same in Canada, at least, and maybe some other western nations, too.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
why would a country with near-negative population growth, and no over-crowding, provide incentives for not having children?

Are you talking about the US? It doesn't have anything like a near-negative population growth as a whole. It's expected future population is very large.

Mostly due to immigration, which most American's would like to curtail

The birth-rate is actually very low, which is leading to a top-heavy age-distribution and impending health-care system overload. It's the same in Canada, at least, and maybe some other western nations, too.

I believe the fertility rate in the US is at replacement levels if not higher. It's even higher than Mexico's. Canada's is much lower.

The US is set to grow over 40% to 420 million by 2050. It's by far the largest growing industrialized nation. In fact, the US & Canada are the only industrialized nations with large & significant growth rates (over 10%).