for those of you who don't belive....

[bigvince]

I know alot of you would call my opinions extreme or radical but really they are my response out of fear for this country. Let me say that I am not paranoid nor am I mentally deranged in any form, rather I have researched and closely followed the Clinton presidency and have simply stated the obvious facts which so many of the mainstream news media have chosen to ignore. That being said here is the proof:

1. Clinton signs an executive order stating that if at any time the U.S. is in a national military crisis (war and whathaveyou) the U.S. government and all it's policies will be suspended, power will transfer to him directly along with F.E.M.A..

2. The Federal Emergency Management Administration(FEMA) was created for the sole purpose of establishing martial law in the us in time of emergency.

3. President Clinton declares war or a police action of some sort on Palestine Yemen or whatever, they retaliate with terrorist acts in the U.S., Clinton declares a state of national emergency...control of the U.S. and all of it's military resources goes to FEMA with Clinton directing it.


The third part hasn't happened yet, but it will if we as the citizens of this great nation don't expose this for what it is....

 

[Chef0083]

So you want to make a sequel to the Siege? You think Denzel will be in it?

 

[jjm]

Okay, bigvince, it's all crystal clear to me now. Thanks for that factual explanation and all the references to the sources of evidence for backing up your assertions.

See, I can be delusional too!

 

[yakko]

One of the local talk show hosts around here was saying this years ago. I think he is a little more credible than you and he has sources.

 

[jjm]

And those sources are...?

yakko - A little education: Talk show hosts are entertainers, not experts. Their goal is to be as outrageous as possible to attract viewers/listeners. It is sad that so many people listen to them as though they were a source of real news. Show me well-researched pieces on this vast conspiracy theory, and I'll give it some weight. Otherwise, I'll file it with the "vast right-wing conspiracy" drivel.

 

[denali]

Sounds like you have been listening to one of my local radio stations, KHNC, Johnstown, CO.

 

[BoberFett]

jjm

I've heard that there was once a conspiracy theory regarding the colonies independence from England. Those fruitcakes, what will they think of next.

 

[yakko]

jjm,

I agree in most cases that they are just entertainers but this guy would actually state what his sources were so you could look them up. Sorry I didn't write any of them down but I was a mechanic at the time and was not able to.

 

[Raspewtin]

bigvince,

I have to give you this much. It take some courage to believe something that seems highly improbable to be a plausible turn of events. You probably are even sometimes ridiculed for such ideas. You're not even rude or pushy about it. I'm doubtful of your step 3, but it's cool to see someone who's ever vigilant, IMHO. My two cents.

 

[jjm]

Really, Bober, and you read that where? Is that your best shot?

It seems like this thread is getting filled with those types of people who like to build fenced-in compounds in the middle of nowhere, amass an arsenal, and claim their own sovereignty. I'm sure we'll thank y'all when you successfully blunt the impending takeover!

 

[jjm]

One other thing, why would Clinton need to control the military via FEMA. He is the Commander-in-Chief already. You think the military would be more or less willing or able to respond to his orders if they came via FEMA?

 

[bigvince]

the military takes orders that's what they do so that doesn't matter, what does matter is keeping the population of the US under his thumb which is why he needs FEMA. with FEMA in place the people can't do anything because they will have no rights, the constitution will be suspended, martial law will become the new goverment with clinton as emperor.



Raspewtin

thank you for the vote of confidence. i did not start this thread to simply entertain you with some right wing conspiracy bull$hit i did it to open the eyes of so many of you who aren't seeing the truth weather because you simply choose to look the otherway or because you've been brainwashed by the media to belive whatever you see on TV. I feel very strongly about this IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP! it's time to tell our leaders that they do not hold our best intrests in mind. we need to take control back from an out of control goverment.

 

[Viper Frag]

One other thing, why would Clinton need to control the military via FEMA. He is the Commander-in-Chief already. You think the military would be more or less willing or able to respond to his orders if they came via FEMA?
I think it's to bypass congress, so he won't have to go to them to make a decision.

 

[KarsinTheHutt]

Absolute nonesense.



<< Let me say that I am not paranoid nor am I mentally deranged in any form >>



- Insane people rarely acknowlege they are insane.

Do you think the military, Congress, and the rest of the government would stand for it? I don't think so. I have to admitt it is an interesting hypothesis though.

 

[bigvince]

KARSIN

you miss the point congress and the rest of goverment won't have power to do anything. the exective order has already been signed, that is fact, when FEMA takes over there is for all intents and purposes NO goverment other than martial law instituted by FEMA.

 

[Passions]

BILL CLINTON IS A PIMP!

 

[jjm]

Well, then. That covers it.

I know it is silly to respond, but there are just so many flaws of logic in this position that it's easy to get dragged in.

Oh, one thing. If the Constitution is disbanded, then there is no authority for the establishment of a military. Why would the military have any obligation to follow orders through FEMA? I don't think you could seriously suggest it's because they are devoted to Clinton.

Actually, I know what's going on here. Clinton is part of the vast right wing master plan. They elected him eight years ago to slip these changes through. That's why they also put Republicans in control of Congress. The next step is for Jr Bush to take over, declare martial law and allow everyone to carry a concealed weapon, and then cede power to the real kingpin...Pat Buchanan! It's all so obvious! You can look it up.

 

[Raspewtin]

<< The next step is for Jr Bush to take over, declare martial law and allow everyone to carry a concealed weapon, and then cede power to the real kingpin...Pat Buchanan! It's all so obvious! >>




an so jjm stepped through the looking glass...

 

[yata]

You know what? Not to be delusional but Clinton must've signed it for a reason. Not like he doesn't have any sources. Also possible the 40 year gap between WWI and WWII will carry on towards WWIII, which is around this decade.

More importantly, I have been told that government agencies have obtained a copy of plans in invasion of the US by cooperating countries, including Russia and China. Actually plans I'm talking about, meaning somehow officials of these countries met somehow(known or unknown to their governments not sure). And it is true that they are waiting for the Middle East to break out and may make the move during the US presidential election, when everyone's watching politics and off guard.

I was told of this during this summer, along with how major airforce bases will be the first targets to bomb, Russia's tank count and underground facilities, and China's under-stated troops. Worst case this or the next election time something might happen, but I'm sure US agencies will do something about it. Spies and all.

All of this is not a mental projection from me, except for the World War thing and that US will do something about it.

 

[bigvince]

Yata,


where did you hear of this? who told you and why? who are you? an agent trying to infiltrate and undermine these boards? or a valient goverment employee trying to get the truth out....

 

[randomlinh]

why does this remind me of deus ex

 

[yata]

Nothing should happen anyways. Cross my fingers. More so, I think the US gov. probably killed the whole thing before a single thing happened and had the plan to show everyone what's going on. They must have procedures for this.

My friend's girlfriend's dad is retired from a gov. agency. Still works at home. He's done everything. Told my friend about this, because there's an airforce base an hour away and they were talking about self defense, guns and stuff. They're both into guns. He gave my friend a AR-15 but took the pin out to make it semi, what the marine use instead of the heavier M16. My friend told me about the plan and the projection that if US goes into war, one out of three American soldiers will die. And for homes to stock lots of water and canned food, as well as weapons and ammo, 'cause people will start robbing each other for worse.

Hehe, nah, maybe just to present everyone a different frame of thought. Hollywood movies on these kind of stuff are pretty dramatic, but it doesn't mean that everyone in the world's peace-loving. Several hot spots around. Imagine living in Israel/Palestine.

 

[bigvince]

now that you have it from two sources would you callit more belivable?

 

[I'm Typing]

gee, the republiKlans have had this scenario circulating since Clinton took the Oath back in 1992...where have you been....

or, more importantly,...

Why hasn't it actually happened?

Oh, maybe because the REPUBLIKLANS LIE????!!!!!

Talk about saying anything to get elected...

 

[bigvince]

RED DAWN,

LOL!!! no that was really funny, BTW they called jesus a wakko too...