For those of you who believe in evolution...

[psteng19]

Friend of mine told me this and it got me thinking.


Lets say you have all the parts of a watch; parts of any regular analog watch (gears, springs, hands, straps, face, etc.), nothing special... but basically you had everything you needed to assemble a watch.

You then put all those watch parts inside a small box, large enough to fit all the parts comfortably, with pleny of extra space.

You then shake the box for thousands, maybe millions of years.

Would you ever expect a fully functional watch to be created?



That's basically what the big bang and evolution is suggesting.
Now think about how much more complex earth is? Or a human being?
The ability to exist, grow, think, reproduce, heal, etc.
How all the body parts and organs work together towards survival.
Have you even thought about how intelligent a single cell is?

It's amazing stuff, and for all of it to exist by chance...?
I dunno about that.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: psteng19
Friend of mine told me this and it got me thinking.


Lets say you have all the parts of a watch; parts of any regular analog watch (gears, springs, hands, straps, face, etc.), nothing special... but basically you had everything you needed to assemble a watch.

You then put all those watch parts inside a small box, large enough to fit all the parts comfortably, with pleny of extra space.

You then shake the box for thousands, maybe millions of years.

Would you ever expect a fully functional watch to be created?



That's basically what the big bang and evolution is suggesting.
Now think about how much more complex earth is? Or a human being?
The ability to exist, grow, think, reproduce, heal, etc.
How all the body parts and organs work together towards survival.
Have you even thought about how intelligent a single cell is?

It's amazing stuff, and for all of it to exist by chance...?
I dunno about that.

Infinite number of monkeys + infinite number of typewriters + time = Pulitzer.

- M4H

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Oh, and I take my own simian characteristics as proof enough of evolution, thanks.

/swings down from a tree, clubs you over the head, beats his chest and hoots with delight

- M4H

 

[Schadenfroh]

Given eternity and hundreds of trillions of boxes, yes.

 

[DingDingDao]

Yeah...there's this thing called molecular evolution. You should read up on it some time. It's not like there was nothing one day and SURPRISE! bacteria the next day.

 

[Savij]

^What the monkey said

 

[Baked]

Can I have some of what your friend's smoking? Sounds like good shed.

 

[CRXican]

you can't really compare a machine to a human

 

[HardcoreRobot]

humans arent assembled from parts of other organisms, so i dont really see how the analogy works

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: psteng19
That's basically what the big bang and evolution is suggesting.

do not mix up evolution and the big bang.

 

[quizzelsnatch]

Originally posted by: psteng19
Friend of mine told me this and it got me thinking.


Lets say you have all the parts of a watch; parts of any regular analog watch (gears, springs, hands, straps, face, etc.), nothing special... but basically you had everything you needed to assemble a watch.

You then put all those watch parts inside a small box, large enough to fit all the parts comfortably, with pleny of extra space.

You then shake the box for thousands, maybe millions of years.

Would you ever expect a fully functional watch to be created?



That's basically what the big bang and evolution is suggesting.
Now think about how much more complex earth is? Or a human being?
The ability to exist, grow, think, reproduce, heal, etc.
How all the body parts and organs work together towards survival.
Have you even thought about how intelligent a single cell is?

It's amazing stuff, and for all of it to exist by chance...?
I dunno about that.

no.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Savij
^What the monkey said

/hides from the impending Poop-Fight inherent to large gatherings of primates :Q

- M4H

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: quizzelsnatch

Originally posted by: psteng19
Friend of mine told me this and it got me thinking.


Lets say you have all the parts of a watch; parts of any regular analog watch (gears, springs, hands, straps, face, etc.), nothing special... but basically you had everything you needed to assemble a watch.

You then put all those watch parts inside a small box, large enough to fit all the parts comfortably, with pleny of extra space.

You then shake the box for thousands, maybe millions of years.

Would you ever expect a fully functional watch to be created?



That's basically what the big bang and evolution is suggesting.
Now think about how much more complex earth is? Or a human being?
The ability to exist, grow, think, reproduce, heal, etc.
How all the body parts and organs work together towards survival.
Have you even thought about how intelligent a single cell is?

It's amazing stuff, and for all of it to exist by chance...?
I dunno about that.

no.

LOL that pretty much says it all.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Oh, and I take my own simian characteristics as proof enough of evolution, thanks.

/swings down from a tree, clubs you over the head, beats his chest and hoots with delight. Throws scat at nearest monkey

- M4H

Fixed.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
/hides from the impending Poop-Fight inherent to large gatherings of primates :Q

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Oh, and I take my own simian characteristics as proof enough of evolution, thanks.

/swings down from a tree, clubs you over the head, beats his chest and hoots with delight. Throws scat at nearest monkey

- M4H

Fixed.

Man, did I call that sh!t or what?

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- M4H

 

[TheBDB]

What a horrible analogy.

 

[TheBDB]

And the answer is given enough time a watch WILL be created.

 

[quizzelsnatch]

analogies are horrible for proving thing. because they are never the same thing, that's why it's an analogy. Anyways, watch parts != human parts. I mean seriously, that analogy is sooo bad i can't even explain where it went wrong, probably the part where it tried to disprove something with an analogy (evolution cannot be disproved, most likely anytime in the near/far future).

 

[Wallydraigle]

You know that somewhere in the universe there's a field full of fully functioning computers with AMD chips, running Windows XP, that were formed spontaneously by random processes. Only there was no natural mechanism for hitting the power buttons on any of them, so they all weathered away to dust before they could start an AOL like phenomenon. And the universe rejoyceth.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: psteng19

You then put all those watch parts inside a small box, large enough to fit all the parts comfortably, with pleny of extra space.

You then shake the box for thousands, maybe millions of years.

Would you ever expect a fully functional watch to be created?

The creationists would like you to think that's it's a stretch like that. They want you to think that things suddenly jumped from disorder to perfect order.

Evolution doesn't work that way. It's comprised of tiny little steps over billions of years. Also, the creationists seem to believe in destiny, as in evolution has to mean that life took the unlikely jump from bacteria to a man, which is perfect and created in God's image.

Again, it doesn't work that way. There is no "goal". Things are the way they are now because that's just how they happened to end up. It is still pretty random. Don't fool yourself into thinking that we "fell" into perfect order that God made. This isn't perfect order, this is just the current state of randomness.

 

[vi edit]

I understand the analogy but feel it's flawed at the most fundamental levels. The building blocks of a living organism can not be compared to the those of a mechanical construct. It's just not the same.

Again, that's my opinion and I'm by no means fully versed on the subject.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I understand the analogy but feel it's flawed at the most fundamental levels. The building blocks of a living organism can not be compared to the those of a mechanical construct. It's just not the same.

Again, that's my opinion and I'm by no means fully versed on the subject.

that's been my thought as well. comparing a human being on earth to an imaginary pocketwatch deconstructed and thrown in an imaginary box doesn't really do a whole lot to further any argument against evolution.

well

at least not if you have enough sense to note the difference between a real person and an imaginary box of watch parts; which, as we see here, some people do not.

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Yeah...there's this thing called molecular evolution. You should read up on it some time. It's not like there was nothing one day and SURPRISE! bacteria the next day.

So how did the molecules get here? :roll:

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: bobbybe01

Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Yeah...there's this thing called molecular evolution. You should read up on it some time. It's not like there was nothing one day and SURPRISE! bacteria the next day.

So how did the molecules get here? :roll:

*taps sarcasm meter*

Is this thing working?

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: TheBDB
And the answer is given enough time a watch WILL be created.

Nope. No way that shaking a box of parts will EVER result in a working watch. Ever.
The parts would wear out from rubbing against each other first....and think of how long that would take.