For those installing solaris....

[Hyperblaze]

Be very wary about the "auto-layout" option during the solaris installation.
I used that without knowning any better, and then while installing kde using...

"pkg-get -i kde_gcc" , I ran out of room in the /opt directory.

Reinstalling solaris now with different size partitions.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Yeah, any good admins partitions his disks well. By hand. with a magnet.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Yeah, any good admins partitions his disks well. By hand. with a magnet.

you just love rubbing that in don't you

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Yeah, any good admins partitions his disks well. By hand. with a magnet.

you just love rubbing that in don't you

Nah, their auto partition thing is insane. Small everything, except /export/home or whatever.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Yeah, any good admins partitions his disks well. By hand. with a magnet.

you just love rubbing that in don't you

Nah, their auto partition thing is insane. Small everything, except /export/home or whatever.

yeah really. why do they do that?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
yeah really. why do they do that?

No idea, probably to get you to do it manually.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
yeah really. why do they do that?

No idea, probably to get you to do it manually.

if that's their objective.....it's working!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
yeah really. why do they do that?

No idea, probably to get you to do it manually.

if that's their objective.....it's working!

The first step when you get almost any SUN machine: rebuild. The only exceptions for me were the times were got quarter million USD machines.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
yeah really. why do they do that?

No idea, probably to get you to do it manually.

if that's their objective.....it's working!

The first step when you get almost any SUN machine: rebuild. The only exceptions for me were the times were got quarter million USD machines.

rebuilding is not always an option. If you have the luxury, then sure, go ahead...

but if there are config files and software on there that were on the machine which you can't replace.....

you could always back them up and all....but sometimes time isn't a luxury you have.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
rebuilding is not always an option. If you have the luxury, then sure, go ahead...

but if there are config files and software on there that were on the machine which you can't replace.....

you could always back them up and all....but sometimes time isn't a luxury you have.

If you buy a machine, but don't have time to set it up properly you have more problems than being rushed.

A solaris install (beginning to patched and ready) takes about 4 hours.

There is no reason there should be critical files on a brand new system.

And backups should take care of the rest.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
rebuilding is not always an option. If you have the luxury, then sure, go ahead...

but if there are config files and software on there that were on the machine which you can't replace.....

you could always back them up and all....but sometimes time isn't a luxury you have.

If you buy a machine, but don't have time to set it up properly you have more problems than being rushed.

A solaris install (beginning to patched and ready) takes about 4 hours.

There is no reason there should be critical files on a brand new system.

And backups should take care of the rest.

if you buy a machine, then sure, your set. But what if your boss gave you a machine to do some work on it...but the partitions were not to your liking? But you needed to work on it like yesterday (with customized config file and software and no luxary of time)


edit: that's pretty much the scenerio I was trying to demonstrate

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
yeah really. why do they do that?

No idea, probably to get you to do it manually.

if that's their objective.....it's working!

The first step when you get almost any SUN machine: rebuild. The only exceptions for me were the times were got quarter million USD machines.

Funny thing...I have a buddy who works for SUN and he says one of their biggest support headaches is these clients who order these machines which are often customized to their specifications and then rebuild them right out of the box!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
if you buy a machine, then sure, your set. But what if your boss gave you a machine to do some work on it...but the partitions were not to your liking? But you needed to work on it like yesterday (with customized config file and software and no luxary of time)


edit: that's pretty much the scenerio I was trying to demonstrate

Then you get your work done, backup everything, and explain to the boss why the server setup is crap. Rebuild when you get the chance.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Jzero
Funny thing...I have a buddy who works for SUN and he says one of their biggest support headaches is these clients who order these machines which are often customized to their specifications and then rebuild them right out of the box!

Every machine I've gotten from SUN (besides the ones they come out to setup) have a default CRAP install. /export/home taking up 75% of the available disk space is ass.

I worked with a competant administrator though, so maybe that helped.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
if you buy a machine, then sure, your set. But what if your boss gave you a machine to do some work on it...but the partitions were not to your liking? But you needed to work on it like yesterday (with customized config file and software and no luxary of time)


edit: that's pretty much the scenerio I was trying to demonstrate

Then you get your work done, backup everything, and explain to the boss why the server setup is crap. Rebuild when you get the chance.

You got a good point there. Just because you can't fix partitions now doesn't mean you can't fix them later.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
You got a good point there. Just because you can't fix partitions now doesn't mean you can't fix them later.

I've been in emergency situations before. They suck, but are occassionally necessary.

 

[Sunner]

Damn near anything automatic under Solaris kinda sucks, though to varying degrees.
And the Solaris installer is by far the worst piece of $hit I've ever used.

But I still like Solaris

Oh and It's "Sun", not "SUN"

 

[drag]

Looks like Sun has a little bit more catching up to do before they reach Redhat..

For instance with Fedora Core3 and RHEL 4 (and other post-2.6.9-using linux distros (not sure)), have the ability to do a 'online' enlargement of ext3 partitions.

That is they ship using LVM by default and you can make them larger as they are in use. That way, if I was a computer vendor that shipped redhat machines I could leave the majority of the drive(s) space unallocated and let the admin resize the logical volumes to suite themselves on the fly.

To bad Sun's new "reduce administration overhead by 80%" zfs file system isn't due out till after longhorn.

(Just thought that was a bit funny.)

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Damn near anything automatic under Solaris kinda sucks, though to varying degrees.
And the Solaris installer is by far the worst piece of $hit I've ever used.

But I still like Solaris

Oh and It's "Sun", not "SUN"

It's both on their website, and it was (is?) an acronym.