for those 25yrs and younger
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Siddhartha
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There isn't going to be a draft. The military likes its' all volunteer force. The rumors about the draft being reinstated were started by some politically motivated Dems protesting the Iraq war.
Today's youth wants nothing to do with fighting ANY sort of war, believe me. They are lazy, unmotivated, and most just don't care. That's the sad realization, but its true of my generation.
4 MoRE WARS!! 4 MoRE WARS!!
ALL YOUR OIL ARE BELONG TO US!
if bush gets elected to a 2nd term, he can basically do anything he wants because he is no longer accountable as he wont be seeking re-election. quadruple tax cuts for the rich, corporate welfare for all
of course technically he never got elected to his first term...
ALL YOUR OIL ARE BELONG TO US!
if bush gets elected to a 2nd term, he can basically do anything he wants because he is no longer accountable as he wont be seeking re-election. quadruple tax cuts for the rich, corporate welfare for all
of course technically he never got elected to his first term...
The Supreme Court would beg to differ, but obviously you won't be bound by reality, so it's whatever.
Not to rain on anyones parade but I doubt there will be a draft. There's enough ppl like my younger brother who joined the US Marines Infantry right out of high school without second guessing. Hell 5 of 6 of my good friends in high school joined the Army right out of high school fully knowning what they are getting into. Of course I didn't but thats not to say there aren't ppl out there willing to kill for you're freedom.
UglyCasanova
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Lol, those damn neocon fearmongers! The left is no different from the right. God I hate politics! 
There will be a draft regardless of who is in charge. Kerry will institute a draft and so will Bush.
What's wrong with the draft? I enlisted in '68, but we certainly had the draft. I have seen many young people today who would benefit greatly from the wisdom of drill sargents. I see no reason that young people could not be expected to serve their country for 2 years. Maybe they would appreciate it more if they had such a personal investment in it.
There's something wrong with a draft for a poor reason or war. If there was a legitimate reason for a draft then there wouldn't be as much of a problem.
We have more than two million servicemen right now, including reserves, and 140,000 in Iraq, something like 20,000 in Afghanistan. Bush has already made for reallignments of troops from places such as Germany to come home so that there will be more troops in the rotation. People think the military is stretched so thin now because there have been rules put in place requiring that no unit be left deployed in a hostile zone for more than six months as a rule (extended in some cases as need dictates, up to a year). After a unit is rotated back, it is given preference over units that have not been recently deployed for at least six more months. Basically, this is to make sure all units are at a constant state of readiness and training and that no unit suffers from the various problems that arise from long term deployment. However, these rules would be modified long before a draft was instituted.
If we do go into Iran/NK, we'll be fighting a much larger force than we did in Iraq. However, we used only (130,000/2,000,000=) 6.5% of our military to do what we did. This is why I don't see a draft in our near future.
Siddhartha
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The re-alignment of existing military resources, which has been announced, should reduced the need for starting a draft.
Has the Iraqi war affected the rate of people joining the military?
Has the Iraqi war affected the rate of people joining the military?
since the plan is to pull troops out of germany and eurpoe, I doubt there will be a need for a draft in the next 4 years.
Oh, and Kerry has no chance. He was set-up to lose on purpose. But Hillary may crush in the 2008 election...
Oh, and Kerry has no chance. He was set-up to lose on purpose. But Hillary may crush in the 2008 election...
UglyCasanova
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Do we really NEED more troops? Having a random draft for no good reason might seem like a good idea to beat a little respect into those damn kids (give me a break), but the army isn't some kind of life skills program. It exists to fight and win wars. Given everything I've learned about our modern military, thousands of draftees would not mesh very well with our idea of a highly trained, highly motivated fighting force.
I wish I was wrong, but unless the rep's could get Colin Poweel to run against her .... she can beat anyone they can field. Or do you think Cheney is gonna beat her out with his (by then) 8 yeasr exp as VP)??
If Bush decides to attack Iran or North Korea, the united states will need to institute the draft. Iran has 12 milliion who are of age for military service. who would like nothing more than martydom. And NK has nukes
Ancient Rome made all males serve a few years in the military, so there is precedent. However, as others have said, there is definitely something to be said for an all-volunteer military.
So, Miss Cleo, who will win the election in two months? Or can you only see four years ahead in your crystal ball?
Are you reading this!!?? I just said "Kerry has no chance"
Pay attention. At least be willing to scan the last few posts...
Pay attention. At least be willing to scan the last few posts...
Don Vito Corleone
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LOL -this reminds me of Alan Keyes drawing on Roman precedent for his newfound support of reparations for descendents of slaves.
I know Israel requires non-orthodox citizens (including women) to spend time in the military, and I believe a number of other nations do as well.
There would be tremendous resistance to a draft, though I think there's a real argument it's necessary. DoD has already started working a lot of shell games to keep Iraq manned without increasing the size of the active-duty force, and that's been necessary without further expanding the global war on terror. We have already, among other things, redeployed AD troops from Korea, extended soldiers in Iraq indefinitely, stop-lossed a lot of would-be retirees, and snatched up people on delayed enlistments early, to provide needed manning.
We couldn't realistically maintain steady-state operations in Iraq AND respond to any new attack without a MAJOR activation of the Guard/Reserve and shuffling our existing AD Army in ways that would not be sustainable for long. If we continue to follow the PNAC playbook, a draft may become unavoidable.
Amazing that you compare me to Alan Keyes simply because I referened the Roman Empire. We must be the only two people to have ever referenced the Roman Empire - maybe I'm Alan Keyes and not Riprorin after all... Wouldn't you be disappointed.
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