For the middle class, expenses grow faster than paychecks

dmcowen674

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/middl...RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

For the middle class, expenses grow faster than paychecks



When Debbie Bruister buys a gallon of milk at her local Kroger supermarket, she pays $3.69, up 70 cents from what she paid last year.


Getting to the store costs more, too. Gas in Corinth, Miss., her hometown, costs $3.51 a gallon now, compared to less than three bucks in 2012. That really hurts, considering her husband's 112-mile daily round-trip commute to his job as a pharmacist.


Bruister, a mother of four, received a $1,160 raise this school year at her job as an eighth-grade computer teacher. The extra cash -- about $97 a month, before taxes and other deductions -- isn't enough for her and her husband to keep up with their rising costs, especially after the elimination of the payroll tax break. Its loss shrunk their paychecks by more than $270 a month.


"If you look at how much prices are going up, you get in the hole really quick," Bruister said. "It's a constant squeeze."


Bruister now has an $1,800 deductible, compared to $500 a few years ago. When she goes to the doctor, the bill typically tops $100 -- so she tries to avoid going.


In the wake of the Great Recession, millions of middle-class people are being pinched by stagnating incomes and the increased cost of living. America's median household income has dropped by more than $4,000 since 2000, after adjusting for inflation, and the typical trappings of middle-class life are slipping out of financial reach for many families.


3-11-2013

http://news.yahoo.com/many-left-behind-silicon-valley-191020089.html

Many left behind as Silicon Valley rebounds



Gap between wealthy and poor expands as Silicon Valley tech rebounds



On a morning the stock market was sailing to a record high and a chilly storm was blowing into Silicon Valley, Wendy Carle stuck her head out of the tent she calls home to find city workers duct taping an eviction notice to her flimsy, flapping shelter walls.


"I have no idea where I'm going to go," she said, tugging on her black sweatshirt over her brown curls and scooping up Hero, an albino dog.


She glanced at the glimmering windows on a cluster of high-tech office buildings just blocks away and shook her head.


"Did you know Google shares hit $840 each this morning?" she asked. "I just heard that on the radio."

The Silicon Valley is adding jobs faster than it has in more than a decade as the tech industry roars back. Stocks are soaring and fortunes are once again on the rise.

But a bleaker record is also being set this year: Food stamp participation just hit a 10-year high, homelessness rose 20 percent in two years, and the average income for Hispanics, who make up one in four Silicon Valley residents, fell to a new low of about $19,000 a year— capping a steady 14 percent drop over the past five years, according to the annual Silicon Valley Index released by Joint Venture Silicon Valley, representing businesses, and the philanthropic Silicon Valley Community Foundation.


Simply put, while the ultra-rich are getting even richer, record numbers of Silicon Valley residents are slipping into poverty.

"In the midst of a national economic recovery led by Silicon Valley's resurgence, as measured by corporate profits and record stock prices, something strange is going on in the Valley itself. Most people are getting poorer," said Cindy Chavez, executive director of San Jose-based Working Partnerships USA, a nonprofit advocating for affordable housing, higher minimum wages and access to health care.

"The fact is that we have an economy now that's working well only for those at the very top," said Lawrence Mishel at the Economic Policy Institute in Washington D.C. "Unless we adopt a new approach to economic policy, we're going to continue going down this path, which means growth that does not really benefit the great majority of people in this country."

The causes for the growing disparity are complex, but largely come down to one thing: a very high cost of living. The median home price is $550,000, and rents average just under $2,000 a month for a two-bedroom apartment in this region that is home to many of the nation's wealthiest companies including Facebook, Apple Inc., Hewlett-Packard Co. and Google. For a family of four, just covering basic needs like rent, food, childcare and transportation comes to almost $90,000 a year, according to the nonprofit Insight Center for Community Economic Development.

Silicon Valley's top tech magnates inched up the Forbes annual list of the richest people on the planet released this week: Oracle Corp. CEO Larry Ellison had a reported net worth of $43 billion, Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin had about $23 billion each, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, was worth an estimated $13.3 billion, and Laurene Powell Jobs, widow of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, had an estimated worth of $10.7 billion.


"The wealth numbers are staggering, they are absolutely staggering," said Alf Nucifora, who chairs the Luxury Marketing Council of San Francisco


One in five ultra-wealthy Americans, defined by having a net worth above $30 million, lives in California, stoked by the "wealth-generating cluster" of the Silicon Valley, according to WealthX, a company that tracks the super-rich. Stanford University, in Palo Alto, boasts 1,173 alumni with a net worth of more than $30 million — only Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania have more.

But many residents, even those with college educations, are finding it tougher than ever to make it in the Silicon Valley.

Before the Great Recession, about 10 percent of people seeking food had at least some college education. Today, one in four who line up at food pantries for bags of free food have been to college.

"There are millionaires, even billionaires, who sit in their sunrooms watching me work in their gardens and they have no clue what's going on,"
 
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This might be a factor behind the situation described in the article...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-02/top-1-got-93-of-income-growth-as-rich-poor-gap-widened.html

The recovery that officially began in mid-2009 hasn’t arrived in most Americans’ paychecks. In 2010, the top 1 percent of U.S. families captured as much as 93 percent of the nation’s income growth, according to a March paper by Emmanuel Saez, a University of California at Berkeley economist who studied Internal Revenue Service data.

Don't worry though it's sure to trickle down soon enough right?
 

DietDrThunder

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Duh! I receive a $2,000 raise this year but my health insurance coverage went up by $2,600.
 

IGBT

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you think it's bad now..wait till your obama gets his carbon tax racket going. He's got to appease the eco-KOOKS who think you need to be punished for using ANY energy including metering your precious solar / wind and tax that too.
 

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I was wondering the purpose behind the video, now I see its to push a lack of socialism as the boogeyman causing the inequality, not the corruption at the top. Its subtle, but that is the purpose of the video.

Just more smoke & mirrors while they loot that remaining half a cash stack off the poor guy and throw it into their 1,000 blips tall cash stack "cause they really need it or else the financial system implodes."

Ever wonder who funded the video?

They made that account explicitly to upload just that one video.

http://www.youtube.com/user/politizane/feed?filter=2
 
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gevorg

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I was wondering the purpose behind the video, now I see its to push a lack of socialism as the boogeyman causing the inequality, not the corruption at the top. Its subtle, but that is the purpose of the video.

404 - socialism not found. Have you even watched it? They specifically say in the video that some wealth disparity is good and healthy, but not to the extreme that it has become.
 

OverVolt

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404 - socialism not found. Have you even watched it? They specifically say in the video that some wealth disparity is good and healthy, but not to the extreme that it has become.

When it disperses the money in the shape of the country equally it puts up the text

The "Dreaded" Socialism

Its a push for more socialism. Who knows who made the video though. The video is also titled "wealth inequality" but goes back and forth between wealth and income apparently.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...n-america-video-it-commits-worstalls-fallacy/

Its meant to shock people "wow America is so unequal, we should do something!" is the point of the video. Not much different than USSRs for the children!, both are stereotypical calls to action for more socialism.

But gee, what should we do?! Oh that "dreaded" socialism equal distribution looked pretty good! Even though the real problem is corruption at this point. Nobody is going to watch that and think corruption is the problem. Everyone is going to watch it and think socialism is a good idea, which is why it was made.
 
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Screech

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Am I the only one who thought when reading this, "who the hell needs a computer teacher in the 8th grade?" lol

That said, two people with real jobs shouldn't really be facing the end of the world over the difference between 3 and 3.50 for milk. I'd be curious to see what other expenses they have.

Bruister, a mother of four,

hmmmmmmmmmmmm....the problem is, if I say anything else you will all think nehalem hacked my account.
 

ShawnD1

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm....the problem is, if I say anything else you will all think nehalem hacked my account.
Stupid people shock me less and less each day. Let's have 4 kids then bitch about how expensive kids are!

We really need to start calling these idiots out. Can you imagine someone saying some shit like that related to a car or a house? Buy a BMW 5 series then complain that it's hard to make the payments? Well why the hell did you buy it then? Idiots.
 

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This might be a factor behind the situation described in the article...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-02/top-1-got-93-of-income-growth-as-rich-poor-gap-widened.html

Don't worry though it's sure to trickle down soon enough right?

Given that that increase is almost solely on the backs of the stock market the time frame is certainly cherrypicked as the graphic shows they also lost the most right before then. You could just as easily say the 'Wealthiest share of income is at the same level as in 2001' - but that would grab much less attention.

If we were just to go one their graphic it looks like the biggest increase was during the Clinton era. Why did that asshole hate poor people so much? :mad: He must have conspired with the stock market gurus to screw the middle class with a massive surge in stock market value...

The article also provides information that, apparently, a large number of middle class americans bought stocks at the height of the stock market and then sold them all at/near the bottom. Shocking that buying high, selling low and then not buying on the rebound would not help. Most americans have a rather perverse attraction to Wall Street. The other day CNN was running a news story about how the stock market was at an all time high and 'should the average american invest in the market now?' NOW?! After the recovery? After the (most likely) best opportunity has already passed? Yes best to spend more money to buy something much more expensive now than it would have been to buy it when it was significantly cheaper. If the stock market is the only thing growing at thats the prevailing attitude its no wonder the middle class is hurting

Take Lois Karhinen, 55, who has been working since she was a teen. A state employee in New York, she's worried she and her husband won't have enough money saved by the time she wants to retire in 11 years.
Her husband is a government contract worker, and they fear his job could disappear any day. Their income has taken a hit because she has been furloughed several days since 2011. At the same time, her health insurance payments, union dues and other expenses have gone up.
The couple is no longer able to cover all of their monthly expenses -- including the mortgage, car loans, home repair loans and student debt -- with their paychecks alone.

Several days? If missing 'several days' means you can't afford multiple car loans maybe you shouldn't be taking out multiple car loans. I was furloughed for more than several days and I still made all of my payments on time. And student debt at 55? I'd be curious to know more about that too. There might be extenuating circumstances but too make of these sob stories have more behind them than a bad economy.

The couple bought their house in 2006, hoping it would serve as an investment and help support their retirement.

Sigh. Instead of diversifying holdings across multiple baskets the middle class tied up nearly 75% of their wealth in home values. Regardless of how hot a sector is I would think it should be pretty obvious that a 75% stake in something is a tad risky.

This is not to say there are not outstanding issues. There is certainly an issue with company profit impacting wages (or a lack there of) but quite a lot of pain has been self inflicted.
 
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Doppel

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The employment situation is vastly improved.
This is true and I think it's reasonable to expect wages to follow that; they'll start to do better (unless the economy tanks again). I am also aware that since Reagan's time the middle and lower class have basically been stagnant, though. Essentially all of the increasing wealth in the country is going to the top 10-20% IIRC.
 

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This is true and I think it's reasonable to expect wages to follow that; they'll start to do better (unless the economy tanks again). I am also aware that since Reagan's time the middle and lower class have basically been stagnant, though. Essentially all of the increasing wealth in the country is going to the top 10-20% IIRC.



10-20% is probably being overly generous. I would bet a few nickels it's more like 2-5%.
 

blankslate

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Obama is running a trickle down economy? Guess that is another policy he continued from Bush.

The House passed a jobs bill in a few years ago that would have included both targeted tax cuts and hiring of workers to improve the national infrastructure. Presidents can't change the economy without the help of congress.

The Senate has not been very helpful at all.

nd you want to take a jab at trickle down economics.
Yeah, I do because the line for trickle down (aka voodoo economics as President Bush Sr. put it once) is that the tax cuts will allow the wealthy to hire more...

So what happened to those jobs?
 
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