FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WEBMASTERS W3C CERTIFY YOUR SITES!

narzy

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its not a hard thing to do, just run there little application, edit your code, and your done! sites don't function right in some browsers that don't have "crappy code correction" like IE, with crappy tags.

end of rant.
 

Descartes

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Staying in compliance isn't always possible, so don't be so pedantic about it.

If you're creating a site to show your family's pictures, sure, compliance is easy. Just like with any language/technology, you don't always have/want to remain portable/compliant. If you were to code C in an entirely ANSI compliant manner, you wouldn't get much done on any platform.

It serves as a baseline only. Large deviations are obviously deterimental, but sometimes you need to take advantage of proprietary extensions, etc.

 

Chaotic42

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Been like that for a while, man. Ever since I found out about it, all of my pages are compliant.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Staying in compliance isn't always possible, so don't be so pedantic about it.

If you're creating a site to show your family's pictures, sure, compliance is easy. Just like with any language/technology, you don't always have/want to remain portable/compliant. If you were to code C in an entirely ANSI compliant manner, you wouldn't get much done on any platform.

It serves as a baseline only. Large deviations are obviously deterimental, but sometimes you need to take advantage of proprietary extensions, etc.

as the reality counselor of ATOT I say that is complete CRAP! last time I checked CSS, or HTML, was not C code!
 

Descartes

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as the reality counselor of ATOT I say that is complete CRAP! last time I checked CSS, or HTML, was not C code!

It was an analogy, or was that not obvious enough?

I'll say it yet again; compliance isn't always possible. Standards support the lowest common denominator, there will always be platforms that support deviations from these standards. For developers needing more than standard, they have to support these deviations. IE has countless facilities that aren't even close to compliant, yet in order to deliver a rich client to end-users of your web app, you have to take advantage of them.

What kind of sites are you developing? I have different versions for different clients, and I know for a fact that my IE versions aren't even close to compliant. The html is clean, but I have to support non-standard extensions. How is this a problem is the client supports it?

It's not. Another analogy that hopefully won't be lost on you...

Microsoft has submitted many standards to ECMA for .NET. A large constituent of this is the CLI (common language infrastructure). The CLR (MS' commercial implementation of the CLI) includes much, much more than the standard defines.

The key is to encapsulate the volatility of non-portable implementations.

It's this way with everything; assimilate or die.

 

Evadman

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It's this way with everything; assimilate or die.

I am Cassiopia of Borg. You will be assimilated by an aut0mat1c hendwr1tlng recogn1ti0n 5ystarn.

I am Ernie of Borg. You will be assimilated into a rubber duckie.
 

kt

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Making your web pages to comply with all the browsers is like trying to satisfy women. You can't!
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: narzy
its not a hard thing to do, just run there little application, edit your code, and your done! sites don't function right in some browsers that don't have "crappy code correction" like IE, with crappy tags.

end of rant.

I suppose you meant "their little application"? Why don't you make your spelling compliant with standard English?

 

kami

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Netscape can kiss my ass. IE handles everything beautifully (especially when you've created your pages with a HTML generator), needn't I mention netscape's other faults like not being able to handle style sheets properly if its life depended on it. Down with nutscrape.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: kami
Netscape can kiss my ass. IE handles everything beautifully (especially when you've created your pages with a HTML generator), needn't I mention netscape's other faults like not being able to handle style sheets properly if its life depended on it. Down with nutscrape.

unfortunatly IE only works on windows and mac...what about linux? BSD? BeOS?
 

kami

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: kami
Netscape can kiss my ass. IE handles everything beautifully (especially when you've created your pages with a HTML generator), needn't I mention netscape's other faults like not being able to handle style sheets properly if its life depended on it. Down with nutscrape.

unfortunatly IE only works on windows and mac...what about linux? BSD? BeOS?

They can kiss my ass too ;)

 

narzy

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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: narzy
its not a hard thing to do, just run there little application, edit your code, and your done! sites don't function right in some browsers that don't have "crappy code correction" like IE, with crappy tags.

end of rant.

I suppose you meant "their little application"? Why don't you make your spelling compliant with standard English?

thats grammer, not spelling jackass, there is a word...their is a word, there is spelled correctly, their is spelled correctly, why don't you make common 4th grade grammer standard in your tarded little brain?

attack me and get bit.
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: kami
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: kami
Netscape can kiss my ass. IE handles everything beautifully (especially when you've created your pages with a HTML generator), needn't I mention netscape's other faults like not being able to handle style sheets properly if its life depended on it. Down with nutscrape.

unfortunatly IE only works on windows and mac...what about linux? BSD? BeOS?

They can kiss my ass too ;)

and most of you blow sh!t out your ass on how msft is over priced, how msft is all controlling, how msft is crap, but yet you all bend over to msft at the slightest whim. HAHA! penetrated.
 

gopunk

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it's my understanding that linux, beos, etc, have a relatively small market share compared to windows and apple for desktops. ms probably just did not feel the demand was great enough. you have to draw the line somewhere, it's not like they can make it for every OS.

anyways, i agree with descartes, though he seems to be talking about proprietary stuff rather than just shoddy workmanship.
 

kami

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and most of you blow sh!t out your ass on how msft is over priced, how msft is all controlling, how msft is crap, but yet you all bend over to msft at the slightest whim. HAHA! penetrated.
maybe you could find a link to one of my posts that says any of this? :)


I thought not.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: narzy
its not a hard thing to do, just run there little application, edit your code, and your done! sites don't function right in some browsers that don't have "crappy code correction" like IE, with crappy tags.

end of rant.

I suppose you meant "their little application"? Why don't you make your spelling compliant with standard English?

thats grammer, not spelling jackass, there is a word...their is a word, there is spelled correctly, their is spelled correctly, why don't you make common 4th grade grammer standard in your tarded little brain?

attack me and get bit.

Whether you meant "their" and spelled it wrong or simply used the wrong word the fact remains that you are not compliant with standard English. Makes you look awfully foolish in the context of this particular bitch session.

Bite me.

 

narzy

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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: narzy
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: narzy
its not a hard thing to do, just run there little application, edit your code, and your done! sites don't function right in some browsers that don't have "crappy code correction" like IE, with crappy tags.

end of rant.

I suppose you meant "their little application"? Why don't you make your spelling compliant with standard English?

thats grammer, not spelling jackass, there is a word...their is a word, there is spelled correctly, their is spelled correctly, why don't you make common 4th grade grammer standard in your tarded little brain?

attack me and get bit.

Whether you meant "their" and spelled it wrong or simply used the wrong word the fact remains that you are not compliant with standard English. Makes you look awfully foolish in the context of this particular bitch session.

Bite me.

I already called you a 4th grader what else do you want, if I bit any harder you might bitch about it...
 

narzy

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Originally posted by: kami
and most of you blow sh!t out your ass on how msft is over priced, how msft is all controlling, how msft is crap, but yet you all bend over to msft at the slightest whim. HAHA! penetrated.
maybe you could find a link to one of my posts that says any of this? :)


I thought not.

and most of you...
 

kami

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well I thought it was somewhat intended for me since you quoted me. sorry
 

Evadman

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Wow, Narzy is getting all angry. Bad narzy bad. Have some borg jokes:

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I am Dyslexic of Borg. your ass will be laminated.
Welcome to Borger King. We do it our way. Your way is irrelevant. You want fries with that?

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