For tax cheats, meltdown prompts amnesty offers

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BOSTON ? Turns out it's a pretty good time to be a tax cheat.

Desperate to bring in revenue in the middle of a recession, states across the country are adopting tax amnesty programs, offering to let people pay their past-due tax bills with little or no penalties or interest.

"Something is better than nothing," said Dino DiCianno, executive director of the Nevada Taxation Department. DiCianno said Nevada gave up more than $14 million in penalties and interest to collect nearly $41 million between July and October.

Oklahoma, like Nevada, generated about twice as much as it expected from its offer of amnesty, raising $82 million through its 90-day Clean Slate program for businesses and individuals. New York has a program under way, and Connecticut and Massachusetts are drawing up theirs. California debated one before rejecting it in favor of stiffer penalties. Delaware's incoming governor campaigned on the idea. A similar program is being considered for Louisiana when its lawmakers return in April.

State after state is facing a disastrous drop-off in tax revenue because of the stock market collapse and the recession. Many states have already cut their budgets and started laying off employees.

"Anything you can do to speed up cash flow is cheaper than your alternatives, like borrowing," said Verenda Smith, spokeswoman for the Federation of Tax Administrators.

Many states are reluctant to offer amnesty, arguing that its rewards cheaters, discourages honest taxpayers and poaches revenue the states will collect in the future ? especially as they improve the databases they use to catch delinquents. They worry, too, that people will hold back on their taxes and simply wait for the next amnesty.

"If the attitude is we're going to hand out get-out-of-jail-free cards, people's attitudes can change," said Paul Warren of the California Legislative Analyst's Office. "You can have a breakdown in compliance."

An Oklahoma City lawyer challenged his state's amnesty program all the way to the state Supreme Court, arguing that the Oklahoma Constitution prohibits forgiving a state debt. The court rejected his claim in a one-sentence ruling.

"It is a slap in the face to all law-abiding Oklahomans who pay their taxes as required by law," said lawyer Jerry F. Fent.

New York, which has a $1.5 billion deficit, began a limited amnesty last January that covers income, corporate and sales taxes. The state has collected $11 million so far and hopes to take in $30 million.

Connecticut Gov. Jodi Rell has warned that the state faces nearly $6 billion in deficits over the next two fiscal years. The state is hoping to generate $40 million by instituting a 56-day tax amnesty program next spring. It will let taxpayers pay their late state taxes without penalty, and with a 25 percent reduction in interest.

"States are trying to reach for every tool in the toolbox right now," said Connecticut Senate President Pro Tem Don Williams.



Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.
 

Farang

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BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Farang
Is there a way not to ban people but to just take away their ability to start threads?

As long as Dave is allowed to post, anything is fair game.
 

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Originally posted by: Farang
Is there a way not to ban people but to just take away their ability to start threads?

Honestly why would you take issue with this subject? or is it just your bias against the poster...

I agree with Bober, as long as someone like Dave is allowed to post their drivel then anything should be fair game.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Farang
Is there a way not to ban people but to just take away their ability to start threads?

As long as Dave is allowed to post, anything is fair game.

I do see the similarities between this joker and Dave and I agree, if we have to let that ..err... Dave post his nonsense here we should let this..err.. guy post his nonsense...speaking as a member.
 

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Originally posted by: loozar111

Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!! It's the same stale old "Clinton did it!" dodge. :shocked:

Seems like loozar111 is desperate enough to look for anything to divert attention away from the multiple heinous crimes committed by his Traitor In Chief and his gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers, corrupt Wall Street robber baron contributors and general incompetents. :roll:
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: loozar111

Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!! It's the same stale old "Clinton did it!" dodge. :shocked:

Seems like loozar111 is desperate enough to look for anything to divert attention away from the multiple heinous crimes committed by his Traitor In Chief and his gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers, corrupt Wall Street robber baron contributors and general incompetents. :roll:

He's not the only one, champ. Apparently a bunch of states loaded up on the welfare over the last decade and are crying about it now.

When you raise taxes to outrageous rates, people don't pay them, and you have to beg them to do so later. Looks like Obama might try that on a national scale.
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111

Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.

Yeah, Oklahoma sure is a bastion of liberalism! Nice to see you paid close attention to the article as usual.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Farang
Is there a way not to ban people but to just take away their ability to start threads?

Honestly why would you take issue with this subject? or is it just your bias against the poster...

I agree with Bober, as long as someone like Dave is allowed to post their drivel then anything should be fair game.

He is one of a select few posters who post inflammatory drivel at least once a day. I could give you a list of liberals and conservatives guilty of this.
 

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Originally posted by: loozar111

He's not the only one, champ. Apparently a bunch of states loaded up on the welfare over the last decade and are crying about it now.

When you raise taxes to outrageous rates, people don't pay them, and you have to beg them to do so later. Looks like Obama might try that on a national scale.

Tax rates, outrageous (by who's standards I don't know) or otherwise, are set by the elected representatives in each state, and it's not the first time states have run amnesty programs to encourage payment of back taxes.

Times are hard, and they're looking to encourage payment. A tax amnesty is a practical means to that end, and it costs less than finding and prosecuting those who are in default.

There's no "scandal" in declaring a tax amnesty. What's the problem? :confused:
 

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: winnar111

Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.

Yeah, Oklahoma sure is a bastion of liberalism! Nice to see you paid close attention to the article as usual.

He doesn't read them, he just posts a one liner to troll.
 

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: loozar111

Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!! It's the same stale old "Clinton did it!" dodge. :shocked:

Seems like loozar111 is desperate enough to look for anything to divert attention away from the multiple heinous crimes committed by his Traitor In Chief and his gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers, corrupt Wall Street robber baron contributors and general incompetents. :roll:

He's not the only one, champ. Apparently a bunch of states loaded up on the welfare over the last decade and are crying about it now.

When you raise taxes to outrageous rates, people don't pay them, and you have to beg them to do so later. Looks like Obama might try that on a national scale.

Wow, at it again ay?

Its all the dems fault. If this country were run by republicans it would be much better... Oh, wait. It IS run by reps for the past 8 years and they ran it into the toilet.

NEXT!!!!
 

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Iowa did the tax amnesty thing recently and I made the charge that it was to boost general fund dollars since the current governor and his puppet master gronstal spent spent spent and needed some revenue to balance things since they had already sucked other funds dry.
 

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: loozar111

Seems like a bunch of blue states are desperate enough to let tax cheats off the hook the way Clinton did for Marc Rich.

OMFGWTFBBQ!!!! It's the same stale old "Clinton did it!" dodge. :shocked:

Seems like loozar111 is desperate enough to look for anything to divert attention away from the multiple heinous crimes committed by his Traitor In Chief and his gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers, corrupt Wall Street robber baron contributors and general incompetents. :roll:

He's not the only one, champ. Apparently a bunch of states loaded up on the welfare over the last decade and are crying about it now.

When you raise taxes to outrageous rates, people don't pay them, and you have to beg them to do so later. Looks like Obama might try that on a national scale.

Wow, at it again ay?

Its all the dems fault.

If this country were run by republicans it would be much better... Oh, wait.
It IS run by reps for the past 8 years and they ran it into the toilet.


NEXT!!!!

Looks like somehow they are going to try and mask the Bush 8 years like they never happened.