f4phantom2500
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well, he wants an answer...
dude don't you have any psych buddies from college that could help you out? i mean, come on...someone with some actual training with how people think and act and all that, and you're asking a bunch of random strangers on the internet. not that a few extra opinions will hurt, but they should be able to help you out more, plus they know you.
Originally posted by: KLin
That's not the only thread he's done that with. Do some google searches.
:laugh:
Actually I'm the same as you almost entirely except that I make clos to 70k, the sole reason is that I got a girl pregnant 9 years ago.
I'm a sys admin for the retail end of a fortune 500 company, but my favorite job, and the one I idly daydream about when i should be working is as the mixer\baker at an artisanal bread shop.
I'd come in at 2:30a and mix the dough, help out the kneaders at 5:30 and bake the loaves at 6-10.. I loved that job, still do. Most satisfying job in the world. Every day crank out a couple hundred loaves of bread, fuel for the world.
What!??!! Maybe that really small percentage of people in their early twenties that went right to college and completed their masters degree as fast as possible. I doubt even 10% of people in their early 20's make that much money. Gratz if you do though.
Siddhartha
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OP,
I had the same approach, until I got tired of:
1. Scrapping by every month and some months losing a couple layers of skin.
2. Not having any reserves in case something unplanned happened.
3. No having health insurance.
4. Having to live with room mates.
I had the same approach, until I got tired of:
1. Scrapping by every month and some months losing a couple layers of skin.
2. Not having any reserves in case something unplanned happened.
3. No having health insurance.
4. Having to live with room mates.
You sound like my brother. He always wanted to just work in an office, or deliver stuff, even though my Father spent like $45k, putting him though college. He's totally smart, but cares nothing about going farther.
I'm positive he's never made more than $35k, a year.
I'm positive he's never made more than $35k, a year.
OP: Why don't you look at government positions? You could get a job working in a health and wellness center at a military base to provide counseling to troubled soldiers.
http://www.opm.gov/
http://www.opm.gov/
maybe it is responsibility that you are not looking forward to in a higher paying job. Typically in a lower paying job there is less responsibility. Perhaps you do not want to leave that comfort zone.
It sounds like you really want to leave that comfort zone though. You're interested in making enough money to move out on your own and begin socializing more with people your age. So what have you been putting off doing because you were afraid or nervous?
It sounds like you really want to leave that comfort zone though. You're interested in making enough money to move out on your own and begin socializing more with people your age. So what have you been putting off doing because you were afraid or nervous?
Are you sure rich doesn't include living with a family? That's just as bad as being a 40 year old virgin living with your mom!
you sound like you need a self-esteem boost. you also sound like, from #1, that you will be rejected when faced with competition. you probably feel that you have no skills to compete.
you don't want a low paying job, but this list is your justification for not wanting one... and it all goes down to your self-esteem and the lack thereof.
consider putting more value on your self-worth and maybe you'll find that you are as equally deserving as others for said jobs. otherwise, you're letting darwin eat you.
this post has been sponsored by my psychology minor. but not really.
you don't want a low paying job, but this list is your justification for not wanting one... and it all goes down to your self-esteem and the lack thereof.
consider putting more value on your self-worth and maybe you'll find that you are as equally deserving as others for said jobs. otherwise, you're letting darwin eat you.
this post has been sponsored by my psychology minor. but not really.
You are placing artificial limitations on yourself by saying things like you don't want to compete "like monkeys over a banana". Sorry, that's the way the world works, deal with it. Life is about competition. If you don't think you are worth more than 30K a year, no one will ever pay you more than that. You are going to have to fight for it and show that you are worth it.
You are just being lazy, plain and simple. Your excuses are total BS.
You said yourself that you want to move out, yet you don't want to get a better job. Oh well. You see that you are sabotaging yourself? Why don't you use that psych. degree on yourself and figure out what's going on in your head and fix it?
There will come a time when you realize you want a high paying job, and it may very well be too late. Even if you were able to secure such a job, you'll be financially behind and thus all but guaranteed to work until a normal retirement age.
Most people think of money as buying only material things. Forget the fancy cars, houses, etc. That's not what ultimately matters. Consider what else money can "buy" you:
1) Hobbies. I have a lot of hobbies, and it's those hobbies that keep me happy. I enjoy my work too, but I think I'm lucky in that respect. Those hobbies take money, and making a good income allow me to pursue them.
2) Travel. Traveling can be expensive, but I decided a long time ago that I didn't want to spend my life in a 5 mile radius of my home. I want to see the world, and having some financial resources make that possible.
3) Children. My family had very little money growing up, and I had to make many sacrifices as a result. My parents did as well, and I love them for that; however, many opportunities were passed simply because we couldn't afford it. I'm not going to spoil my children, but if there is an opportunity in their life that they want to pursue, I will make certain that I'm not an impediment in their doing so.
4) Emergencies. I sincerely hope this would never happen, but what if you developed some disorder that degraded over time? What if that prevented you from working? This would be compounded if you were already married and with children, because then your entire family would have to suffer the consequences as well. Having a financial backing provides a lot of opportunities to prevent this.
5) Time. Others have mentioned this, but a little more effort now can mean a lot more gained later. I'd rather put forth that effort now so that I can retire earlier. That doesn't mean I'll sit around and do nothing, but it does mean I'll do whatever I'd like to do. The idea of working until I'm 60, or even 50, is not at all appealing.
I'm sure there are others, but I think these are the most obvious. You don't have to make a great income to enjoy most of these things, but a meager income makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible; at the very least, the frequency in which you'd enjoy such things would be dramatically reduced.
Good luck to you!
Most people think of money as buying only material things. Forget the fancy cars, houses, etc. That's not what ultimately matters. Consider what else money can "buy" you:
1) Hobbies. I have a lot of hobbies, and it's those hobbies that keep me happy. I enjoy my work too, but I think I'm lucky in that respect. Those hobbies take money, and making a good income allow me to pursue them.
2) Travel. Traveling can be expensive, but I decided a long time ago that I didn't want to spend my life in a 5 mile radius of my home. I want to see the world, and having some financial resources make that possible.
3) Children. My family had very little money growing up, and I had to make many sacrifices as a result. My parents did as well, and I love them for that; however, many opportunities were passed simply because we couldn't afford it. I'm not going to spoil my children, but if there is an opportunity in their life that they want to pursue, I will make certain that I'm not an impediment in their doing so.
4) Emergencies. I sincerely hope this would never happen, but what if you developed some disorder that degraded over time? What if that prevented you from working? This would be compounded if you were already married and with children, because then your entire family would have to suffer the consequences as well. Having a financial backing provides a lot of opportunities to prevent this.
5) Time. Others have mentioned this, but a little more effort now can mean a lot more gained later. I'd rather put forth that effort now so that I can retire earlier. That doesn't mean I'll sit around and do nothing, but it does mean I'll do whatever I'd like to do. The idea of working until I'm 60, or even 50, is not at all appealing.
I'm sure there are others, but I think these are the most obvious. You don't have to make a great income to enjoy most of these things, but a meager income makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible; at the very least, the frequency in which you'd enjoy such things would be dramatically reduced.
Good luck to you!
i dont plan on having kids.
thanks i was going to check that one too, you just saved me some time
i dont have any ties to my pscyh classmates. i graduated last spring.
ahh, i hope one day you can resume your dream job again. maybe when your girl grows up
im sure that engineers do. even if they only have a 4 year degree.
and what about nurses, or automechanics, plumbers, teachers (in school districts that arent poor), accountants, finance people, etc
yeah, maybe it will have to wear on me, before i decide to change my mind and find a higher paying job.
the worst one for me is #4. i hate having roomates.
haha, im probably a lot like your brother. my parents pushed me hard to excel in school, and to do college and stuff. so i did all of that, and i guess now i just dont care that much. they think that i would be happiest if i had a job where i used my mind. thats probably true, but i really want to use my body a lot too, and from what i understand its rare to find a job where you use both a ton.
even with only a BA in psych?
you're right that i definately dont look forward to the responsiblity in higher paying jobs. i want my day to go from 8-4:30 and then be done.
But I am interested in moving out and socializing more too. I'm just afraid that if I move out, I'll run out of money, or that it will be a rough start at first, or ill screw up more living on my own, or I make get homesick and move back home (which would really make me feel like a failure, haha)
true, i think i do need to work on my self esteem
me too, but too late now.
1) Hobbies can be cheap too
2) For some reason I really am not into travelling
3) I dont plan on having kids
4) Good point
5) I consider time in my youth more valuable than time when I'm 50. Seriously, I'm young, now is the time to meet people, meet friends, date young women. All of that isnt quite the same when you are 50. What fun is it working 60 hours a week at some job that pays well, just so that you can retire 10 years earlier? Youth time seems more valuable than time when I'm 50.
You're right that income does make life more enjoyable. its not an easy scale to balance.
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