For Sale: 2 Ohio Class Nuclear Submarines--Loaded!

Ozoned

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Given all the doom and gloom threads predicting the eminent demise and financial bankruptcy of the USA. I think it's time to remind people that our government has significant assets that they could liquidate. The market values of these assets could possible exceed many times our national debt.

For starters, I think China would trade their entire us $ reserves for A couple of these , fully equipped of course.

Auction, to the highest bidder, anything you want, with contractual stipulations, of course.

We aren't broke, not even close. You don't have to think very hard to come up with something tangible that we (government) could sell if we really needed to.
 

Drakkon

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Air Force graveyard - I used to drive by this every day to/from work. If we were to just sell off a fraction of those planes - if even just for scrap metal they would finance a great deal. I don't get why they don't move em faster as it seems like too massive of a supply to just leave sitting there.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Drakkon
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Air Force graveyard - I used to drive by this every day to/from work. If we were to just sell off a fraction of those planes - if even just for scrap metal they would finance a great deal. I don't get why they don't move em faster as it seems like too massive of a supply to just leave sitting there.

A perfect example. That junkyard alone could potentially be worth hundreds of millions.
 

BigDH01

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Drakkon
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Air Force graveyard - I used to drive by this every day to/from work. If we were to just sell off a fraction of those planes - if even just for scrap metal they would finance a great deal. I don't get why they don't move em faster as it seems like too massive of a supply to just leave sitting there.

A perfect example. That junkyard alone could potentially be worth hundreds of millions.

Probably not as many of those planes have likely already been gutted for spare parts for their operational counterparts.

I think I saw nearly every type of warplane in that junkyard. Poor, poor Tomcats :(.
 

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Originally posted by: BigDH01
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Drakkon
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Air Force graveyard - I used to drive by this every day to/from work. If we were to just sell off a fraction of those planes - if even just for scrap metal they would finance a great deal. I don't get why they don't move em faster as it seems like too massive of a supply to just leave sitting there.

A perfect example. That junkyard alone could potentially be worth hundreds of millions.

Probably not as many of those planes have likely already been gutted for spare parts for their operational counterparts.

I think I saw nearly every type of warplane in that junkyard. Poor, poor Tomcats :(.
Holy crap, I've seen pics of old junkers but not like this. I bet if things got bad they'd bring those back into service, not that I'd want to pilot one that had been sitting in the sun for a few years.

 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: BigDH01
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Drakkon
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Air Force graveyard - I used to drive by this every day to/from work. If we were to just sell off a fraction of those planes - if even just for scrap metal they would finance a great deal. I don't get why they don't move em faster as it seems like too massive of a supply to just leave sitting there.

A perfect example. That junkyard alone could potentially be worth hundreds of millions.

Probably not as many of those planes have likely already been gutted for spare parts for their operational counterparts.

I think I saw nearly every type of warplane in that junkyard. Poor, poor Tomcats :(.
Holy crap, I've seen pics of old junkers but not like this. I bet if things got bad they'd bring those back into service, not that I'd want to pilot one that had been sitting in the sun for a few years.

As has been pointed out, they are largely "parts planes" that are unflyable and really cannot be brought back into service.

Still, there are a few that could be. Surprisingly, the desert is a perfect place to store them. Low humidity means no problems with corrosion and while the sun will cause problems with things like leather or vinyl those are easily and (relatively) cheaply replaced. The core systems preserve fairly well in the sun.

ZV
 

Ozoned

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The government owns approx 30% of the total us land mass. Link Not to mention what is under them. ;)
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Drako
Are you proposing we sell these with or without the boomers?

Well, they certainly wouldn't bring much without them, would they?
 

Drako

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Drako
Are you proposing we sell these with or without the boomers?

Well, they certainly wouldn't bring much without them, would they?

Yeah, LOL.

Good idea genius.

 

Ozoned

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I wonder how much we could get out of NASA? The whole program. All hardware, software, and related technology and patents. The Entire thing.
 

sandorski

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Once you start selling your Military Hardware, you've given up your last clear Advantage. Might win a Battle, but lose the War, in a manner of speaking.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Once you start selling your Military Hardware, you've given up your last clear Advantage. Might win a Battle, but lose the War, in a manner of speaking.

You go broke, you loose everything. If you are going to buy into the bankruptcy notion, you have to consider everything we have that is an asset.
 

Ozoned

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I wonder what part of our public debt Japan would be willing to forgive to add This to their portfolio.
 

Insomniator

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: sandorski
Once you start selling your Military Hardware, you've given up your last clear Advantage. Might win a Battle, but lose the War, in a manner of speaking.

You go broke, you loose everything. If you are going to buy into the bankruptcy notion, you have to consider everything we have that is an asset.

:roll:
 

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We could sell about 20 nukes to Iran and put ourselves out of all this misery. ;)

I wouldn't mind selling a lot of old aircraft to Barbados either.

Maybe the Russians are right though. You know, we could sell Texas to the Texans and they'd buy it! ;) Maybe the Russians want Alaska back too....

-Robert
 

gevorg

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Given all the doom and gloom threads predicting the eminent demise and financial bankruptcy of the USA. I think it's time to remind people that our government has significant assets that they could liquidate. The market values of these assets could possible exceed many times our national debt.

For starters, I think China would trade their entire us $ reserves for A couple of these , fully equipped of course.

Auction, to the highest bidder, anything you want, with contractual stipulations, of course.

We aren't broke, not even close. You don't have to think very hard to come up with something tangible that we (government) could sell if we really needed to.

A couple?? LOL! With China's reserves they can buy the entire current fleet of US submarines, and still have plenty of money left for other toys.

China's current reserves are enough to cover US Defense budget for 4 years!
 

Squisher

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Like I said in the other thread:

Maybe Toyota will buy Michigan?


All hail the overlapping ovals!!!
 

Jiggz

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Given all the doom and gloom threads predicting the eminent demise and financial bankruptcy of the USA. I think it's time to remind people that our government has significant assets that they could liquidate. The market values of these assets could possible exceed many times our national debt.

For starters, I think China would trade their entire us $ reserves for A couple of these , fully equipped of course.

Auction, to the highest bidder, anything you want, with contractual stipulations, of course.

We aren't broke, not even close. You don't have to think very hard to come up with something tangible that we (government) could sell if we really needed to.

So from what University did you get your Economics degree? Here's a firm selling it's long term asset to pay off it's debt and you're telling us it's not broke! So what do you consider broke? when you don't have anything to sell? I mean nothing to sell even yourself?
 

alphatarget1

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I would think that the airframe of these gutted planes have many, many hours of services on them already and due to fatigue they can't fly them anymore.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I would think that the airframe of these gutted planes have many, many hours of services on them already and due to fatigue they can't fly them anymore.

The engines are the expensive part. A few years ago I flew B-727's and one engine was worth more than the whole airframe... avionics included. Of course the newest B-727 is still 24 years old.
 

alphatarget1

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
I would think that the airframe of these gutted planes have many, many hours of services on them already and due to fatigue they can't fly them anymore.

The engines are the expensive part. A few years ago I flew B-727's and one engine was worth more than the whole airframe... avionics included. Of course the newest B-727 is still 24 years old.

Well yes, but engines fatigue too, especially the fan blades.