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miri

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Neutral

I dunno why here in America the lights dont flash before they turn green. They do this in other countries so you will have your car in 1st gear when the light turns green.
 

GTaudiophile

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Depends on how long I guestimate the red light to be. If the opposing light is stale green, I'll keep the clutch in with the gear in first. If my light just turned red and I know it's a long one, I'll rest my left foot with the gear neutral.
 

Savij

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Neutral till the light is about to turn green then I put it in gear.
 

jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: miri
Neutral

I dunno why here in America the lights dont flash before they turn green. They do this in other countries so you will have your car in 1st gear when the light turns green.

i guess cuz they don't want ppl gunning it right when it turns green, what w/ all the crappy drivers that run red lights
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Depends on how long I guestimate the red light to be. If the opposing light is stale green, I'll keep the clutch in with the gear in first. If my light just turned red and I know it's a long one, I'll rest my left foot with the gear neutral.

yup.
 

Ryan

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I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.
 

Zenmervolt

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1st gear with the clutch out. There are some who claim this wears the throw-out bearing, but that's what the throw-out bearing was designed for. Driving your car wears the wheel bearings. Running the engine wears the rod bearings. Etc. I've yet to have a throw-out bearing die before the clutch.

ZV
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ryan
I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.

Not if you're like me, watching the opposing light like a hawk. The gear goes into first as soon as the opposing light turns from green to yellow.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
1st gear with the clutch out. There are some who claim this wears the throw-out bearing, but that's what the throw-out bearing was designed for. Driving your car wears the wheel bearings. Running the engine wears the rod bearings. Etc. I've yet to have a throw-out bearing die before the clutch.

ZV

How many miles do you usually get with a clutch keeping your car in gear at stops? How much of that is stop and go city driving and how much of that is highway miles?
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Ryan
I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.

Not if you're like me, watching the opposing light like a hawk. The gear goes into first as soon as the opposing light turns from green to yellow.

I do that too. Driving for a living, I watch the the intersecting lights at all intersections to be ready for the light to change.
 

Tommouse

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I will normally sit with my car in neutral, and when I see the other light change to yellow, that is when I will put it in gear.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Ryan
I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.

Not if you're like me, watching the opposing light like a hawk. The gear goes into first as soon as the opposing light turns from green to yellow.

How do you see opposing lights? The light signals here are angled and have covers on the side making it impossible to see what color they are.
 

KK

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Jan 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ryan
I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.

So do people who drive shoeboxes. :p
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Ryan
I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.

So do people who drive shoeboxes. :p

Hey now - I never had a problem going faster than the speed of traffic. The manual transmission makes the car quick from take offs.
 

FoBoT

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Apr 30, 2001
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usually "keep the car in 1st gear w/the clutch pushed in", especially if i am near the front of the line/first on the line/at the light
unless it is a really long light or really heavy traffic, then i may put it in neutral
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: miri
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: Ryan
I always have my car in gear at a stop. People who wait until the light turns green to put their car in gear cause lag in traffic.

Not if you're like me, watching the opposing light like a hawk. The gear goes into first as soon as the opposing light turns from green to yellow.

How do you see opposing lights? The light signals here are angled and have covers on the side making it impossible to see what color they are.

Depends on your state I guess. 90% of the intersections I frequent have lights visible in all directions.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Depends on how long the light is. If it just turned red I usually just leave it in neutral but if I think it will change soon I will put it in 1st gear and leave the clutch pressed in.
 

AdamK47

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Oct 9, 1999
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You're supposed to let the cluctch out just enough so that if you are on an incline you can balance the car. This allows you to take off right away on green without rolling back. It also saves on the clutch.
 

Connoisseur

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Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
You're supposed to let the cluctch out just enough so that if you are on an incline you can balance the car. This allows you to take off right away on green without rolling back. It also saves on the clutch.

Sorry I'm confused about this. I always just go to neutral+brake at lights. I don't shoot out on greens unless i think the guy next to me is gonna try to beat me.How does having your foot on the clutch wear the clutch LESS than with the clutch completely disengaged?
 

BCYL

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I used to keep it in first and push the clutch in, but my leg got tired after a while