For gaming at 1080 is the gtx 770 enough to max out?

[EJSLP]

I wanted to ask if i should get a OC'd version of a GTX 770 or go all out and buy a gtx 780?
if i get the 770, it will definitely be evga's classified 4g one. this is the one i have had my eye on for a week now.
thing is i play all FPS type games mostly battlefield 3+4, medal of honor warfighter,clancy's ghost recon future soldier,crysis 2+3 and a few 3rd person games like sniper elite V2 and spec ops the line.
i use a 32" 1080 monitor that is 60hz.
will a 770 classified be able to max out those games at 1080 or do i need the 780?

 

[JumBie]

I wanted to ask if i should get a OC'd version of a GTX 770 or go all out and buy a gtx 780?
if i get the 770, it will definitely be evga's classified 4g one. this is the one i have had my eye on for a week now.
thing is i play all FPS type games mostly battlefield 3+4, medal of honor warfighter,clancy's ghost recon future soldier,crysis 2+3 and a few 3rd person games like sniper elite V2 and spec ops the line.
i use a 32" 1080 monitor that is 60hz.
will a 770 classified be able to max out those games at 1080 or do i need the 780?

Technically yes, but some games actually still receive low frame rates with everything maxed out at 1080p even more powerful cards struggle.. However, for the most part its perfectly fine.

 

[EJSLP]

Technically yes, but some games actually still receive low frame rates with everything maxed out at 1080p even more powerful cards struggle.. However, for the most part its perfectly fine.

I guess crysis will be a issue since i read that game challenges real high end cards.
luckily i dont play crysis all that much so a oc's 770 is the best bet?
dont want to sound like richie rich but money is not is issue but i still dont want to get a card that i will not really be able to use to its full potential?
I may get another monitor down the road for higher resolutions but i could just notch down the settings of the games if needed right?
(NOTE) as long as i can stay above 40fps in games i am happy.

 

[Gloomy]

What CPU do you have?

 

[EJSLP]

What CPU do you have?

sorry i should have listed my MB and cpu
I have a asus P8Z77-V LK MB and a use the i5 3570K oc'd to 4.3ghz

 

[EnzoLT]

I had the same question. I went with a 280x instead (equivalent to a 770) and some games still could not maintain a decent framerate (this is subjective). In the end, I went with a r9-290.

 

[EJSLP]

I had the same question. I went with a 280x instead (equivalent to a 770) and some games still could not maintain a decent framerate (this is subjective). In the end, I went with a r9-290.

Even though i know the 280's and 290's are great i have read too many horror stories about them running too hot and causing artifacts and freezing issues.
my bud even bought the 290X matrix platinum and had to send it back for the same reason.

 

[Gloomy]

I've got an R9 290. No issues with it so far, other than noise. Which should be fixed with a good cooler from Sapphire or Asus or someone.

Anyway, that's irrelevant. Your CPU is good enough to drive even a 780Ti. So if money isn't an issue, well...

As for what is the bare minimum for 1080p, I think a 770 will be fine. You'll have to run SMAA instead of MSAA but that's no real loss.

 

[Braxos]

If you go for 4gb on the 770 then buy the 780 or 780ti. Only the 2gb 770 would be better from performance and money combo.

 

[wand3r3r]

If you want to compromise on image quality it will be fine. You will not be able to run 60 FPS minimum on the fastest single card in every game anyway. You will be compromising, whether it's a bit of MSAA, or FPS. The question is whether a bit more aliasing is worth $100+ and that's up to you.

Personally I'd go 780 over the 770 and if I went 770 it'd be 4 GB. That's just a personal preference though since I feel like 2 GB is a bit low (especially if you consider SLI when you need more power), and the 780 is a good overclocker in general. That said, you'll be fine with a 770 if you drop a setting or two.

 

[JumBie]

Yeh, if money is no issue then the 780 or ti is your best bet. The 770 will give you great frames but you will not maintain a constant 60fps in a lot of games maxed out at 1080p.

 

[EJSLP]

Thanks to everyone for all the help, i will get a 780.
I seen this is the fastest of the factory 780's and i like the price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-NVIDI...760?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4acf2ba858
These numbers look good and it has 3G Vram
Core Clock: 1006 MHz
Boost Clock: 1059 MHz
Video Memory: 3GB GDDR5
Memory Clock: 6208 MHz

 

[JumBie]

Thanks to everyone for all the help, i will get a 780.
I seen this is the fastest of the factory 780's and i like the price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-NVIDI...760?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4acf2ba858
These numbers look good and it has 3G Vram
Core Clock: 1006 MHz
Boost Clock: 1059 MHz
Video Memory: 3GB GDDR5
Memory Clock: 6208 MHz

Great choice, that card actually gains 12fps over the stock gtx 780 on Crysis 3 at 1080p.

 

[EJSLP]

Great choice, that card actually gains 12fps over the stock gtx 780 on Crysis 3 at 1080p.

Wow, that is great to hear
Normally i would buy EVGA's dual classified but in this case i want the highest clocked 780(fastest) out of the box and from all the comparisons the zotac amp is the one, even MSI's lightning is not clocked that high.
the only thing is that zotac is not real well known and even though i have not not read any negative things about the amp series i wonder if it is worth the extra clock speeds vs EVGA's quality and customer service?
I mean there is a chance i could buy the evga and OC it myself and HOPE to get that high a clock? but it would be a gamble since there is no way to know how high a card will clock and be stable
to me it is very ify with the evga being at
993 MHz Base Clock
1046 MHz Boost Clock
6008 MHz (effective)

vs zotacs stock clocks i posted earlier?

 

[JumBie]

Wow, that is great to hear
Normally i would buy EVGA's dual classified but in this case i want the highest clocked 780(fastest) out of the box and from all the comparisons the zotac amp is the one, even MSI's lightning is not clocked that high.
the only thing is that zotac is not real well known and even though i have not not read any negative things about the amp series i wonder if it is worth the extra clock speeds vs EVGA's quality and customer service?
I mean there is a chance i could buy the evga and OC it myself and HOPE to get that high a clock? but it would be a gamble since there is no way to know how high a card will clock and be stable
to me it is very ify with the evga being at
993 MHz Base Clock
1046 MHz Boost Clock
6008 MHz (effective)

vs zotacs stock clocks i posted earlier?

The EVGA 780 SC ACX performs relatively close to the amp edition, managing just 2fps less in crysis 3 @ 1080p. And you are right, Zotac doesnt havent the greatest customer support. EVGA is pretty darn good to be honest. Its really up to you, decide whether or not the few fps is worth the headache IF you run into problems.

 

[EJSLP]

The EVGA 780 SC ACX performs relatively close to the amp edition, managing just 2fps less in crysis 3 @ 1080p. And you are right, Zotac doesnt havent the greatest customer support. EVGA is pretty darn good to be honest. Its really up to you, decide whether or not the few fps is worth the headache IF you run into problems.

I wanted to ask, where are you seeing these benchmarks?
I looked for the zotac 780 amp vs other cards but could not find any? 2fps less is not a issue at all for the EVGA

 

[ezclick]

interesting..

 

[JumBie]

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/59857-zotac-geforce-gtx-780-amp-edition-updated/

 

[EJSLP]

THANKS!!! that is a HUGE help!
Now you have helped me know for sure that if the EVGA SC's 780 gets that many FPS i know for sure the EVG! classified will take on the Zotac since the classified is clocked higher than the SC by evga.
I am decided EVGA GTX 780 dual classified with acx! very happy camper here! thanks again, eric

 

[JumBie]

THANKS!!! that is a HUGE help!
Now you have helped me know for sure that if the EVGA SC's 780 gets that many FPS i know for sure the EVG! classified will take on the Zotac since the classified is clocked higher than the SC by evga.
I am decided EVGA GTX 780 classified! very happy camper here!

No problem, anytime!

 

[bystander36]

THANKS!!! that is a HUGE help!
Now you have helped me know that if the EVGA SC's 770 gets that many FPS i know for sure the EVG! classified will take on the Zotac since the classified is clocked higher than the SC by evga.

Keep in mind that "Ultra" and "Maxed out" are often two different things. You'll find most reviews are rarely using "Maxed out" settings. The above is probably no exception. Be aware that you will have to be mindful of how high you turn up AA, and if you use things like Advanced PhysX, DoF or Ubersampling.

That said, a 770 should give you a good experience, without having to turn down many settings. A 780 will turn down even less.

 

[EJSLP]

Keep in mind that "Ultra" and "Maxed out" are often two different things. You'll find most reviews are rarely using "Maxed out" settings. The above is probably no exception. Be aware that you will have to be mindful of how high you turn up AA, and if you use things like Advanced PhysX, DoF or Ubersampling.

That said, a 770 should give you a good experience, without having to turn down many settings. A 780 will turn down even less.

thanks i never took that into consideration but will from now on
it is looking like the 780 will get me much further than i am now with a 760 and would be if i had gone 770.
And as a afterthought looking over those bench tests the 780 is more impressive at 2K resolutions which i am considering going in the very near future.

 

[apoe]

My GTX760 can run most newer games on high settings at 80+ fps.

BF4 MP runs at 80+ fps on a mix of ultra and high settings, with MSAA off (even if I had a 780 Ti I would not use MSAA in that game unless I could maintain over 144 fps... the performance impact of MSAA is particularly large in BF3 / 4).

Older and less demanding games go even higher, for example CoD BO2 stays around 140 fps.

The only games in the last year that I had to make some actually noticeable visual sacrifices to run properly are Metro: LL, where the max settings are very demanding, and Company of Heroes 2, because it was optimized horribly. And some games it's pretty much impossible to get consistently above 60 fps even if you have a great system, like Blizzard games which can run on toasters but don't scale that well with better hardware. Can't comment on Crysis 3.

If you do get a 770, you will not have any issues at 1080p unless you must run everything totally maxed out with 16x MSAA. From my experience, many games have pretty large diminishing returns on the highest graphics settings, where the performance hit is significant from the next step down for very little visual improvement.

I think a 780 is a bit overkill for 1080p unless you have a high refresh rate monitor. Most of the games you listed are not demanding to run and you will end up with triple digit frame rates that the 60 Hz monitor won't be able to fully display. My 2c

 

[EJSLP]

My GTX760 can run most newer games on high settings at 80+ fps.

BF4 MP runs at 80+ fps on a mix of ultra and high settings, with MSAA off (even if I had a 780 Ti I would not use MSAA in that game unless I could maintain over 144 fps... the performance impact of MSAA is particularly large in BF3 / 4).

Older and less demanding games go even higher, for example CoD BO2 stays around 140 fps.

The only games in the last year that I actually had to make some actually noticeable visual sacrifices to run properly are Metro: LL, where the max settings are very demanding, and Company of Heroes 2, because it was optimized horribly. And some games it's pretty much impossible to get consistently above 60 fps even if you have a great system, like Blizzard games which can run on toasters but don't scale that well with better hardware. Can't comment on Crysis 3.

If you do get a 770, you will not have any issues at 1080p unless you must run everything totally maxed out with 16x MSAA. From my experience, many games have pretty large diminishing returns on the highest graphics settings, where the performance hit is significant from the next step down for very little visual improvement.

I think a 780 is a bit overkill for 1080p unless you have a high refresh rate monitor. Most of the games you listed are not demanding to run and you will end up with triple digit frame rates that the 60 Hz monitor won't be able to fully display. My 2c

I really appreciate your input here and wanted to ask what if i was going to go to 2K resolutions in the next few months?

after i get the GPU all settled away i am going to get a new monitor cause right now i am using a 32" toshiba 1080 HD tv as my monitor and even though it looks amazing at 1080, it has a 60hz refresh rate and i cant go higher than 1080.
So in this scenario would a 770 still be the more logical choice?
I have $600 to spend on just a gpu.

 

[apoe]

I really appreciate your input here and wanted to ask what if i was going to go to 2K resolutions in the next few months?

after i get the GPU all settled away i am going to get a new monitor cause right now i am using a 32" toshiba 1080 HD tv as my monitor ans even though it look amazing at 1080, it has a 60hz refresh rate and i cant go higher from 1080.
So in this scenario would a 770 still be the more logical choice?
I have $600 to spend on just a gpu.

2k resolution with a GTX 780 would absolutely make sense, in that case I say go for it.