For first time, Christmas official holiday in Iraq

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

BAGHDAD ? Iraq's Christians, a scant minority in this overwhelmingly Muslim country, quietly celebrated Christmas on Thursday with a present from the government, which declared it an official holiday for the first time.

But security worries overshadowed the day for many, particularly in the north where thousands of Christians have fled to escape religious attacks.

Overall security in Iraq has improved markedly in the past year, but a fatal car bombing in Baghdad on Christmas morning was a gruesome reminder that serious problems remain.

The bombing outside a restaurant frequented by police killed four people and wounded 25 others in the Shiite neighborhood of Shula, said a police officer on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give information to news media. The U.S. military later announced that one person was killed and 21 wounded. There was no way to immediately reconcile the differing numbers.

An American soldier was killed in a rocket or mortar attack near the northern city of Mosul, the military announced.

Also on Thursday, an oil official said attackers blew up a pipeline in the city of Kirkuk. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the attack happened Wednesday and that pumping was expected to resume within three days.

In his homily on Thursday, Chaldean Cardinal Emmanuel III Delly praised the establishment of Christmas as an official holiday as a step toward easing tensions.

"I thank the government for giving chances to all to serve each other for the general benefit, and I thank it too for making this day an official holiday where we pray to God to make us trust each other as brothers," he said at the Christmas Mass before several dozen worshippers in the small chapel of a Baghdad monastery.

A senior Shiite cleric, Ammar al-Hakim, attended the Mass flanked by bodyguards in a gesture of cooperation with Christians.

"I thank the visitors here and ask them to share happiness and love with their brothers on Christmas; by this they will build a glorious Iraq," the cardinal said.

"We came here to bring a message of love, respect and gratitude to our Christian brothers and to share happiness with them as we have shared sadness with them during the cruel targeting they came under," al-Hakim said in an interview with al-Furat TV. "We will do our best for equality between people and a good life for all, whatever their religious, sectarian and ethnic background."

He is the son and heir-apparent of Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, Iraq's biggest mainstream Shiite party.

Iraq's Christians, estimated to number only a few hundred thousand of the country's 26 million people, have often been the target of attacks by Islamic extremists in Iraq. Tens of thousands have fled; many of those who stayed were isolated in neighborhoods protected by barricades and checkpoints.

A coordinated bombing campaign in 2004 targeted churches in the Iraqi capital and anti-Christian violence also flared in September 2007 after Pope Benedict XVI made comments perceived to be against Islam.

For Mariam Polis, who fled her home in Mosul a year ago after anti-Christian threats spread and two priests were killed, this Christmas was a day of bitterness.

"There's not enough money, no house, no stability to prepare for Christmas Eve," said the 55-year-old woman who now occupies a one-room clay house in the northern village of Ein Kawa. "It is better for us to die."

But for another woman who fled to Ein Kawa, there was a bit of cheer thanks to money sent from abroad by her brother.

"We got a bright Christmas tree ? it is a symbol we love," Raeida Anwar Abid said.

In the city of Sulaimaniyah in Kurdistan, which is comparatively orderly, many Christians spent hours at a Christmas Eve Mass at the Mar Joseph church.

"Iraq is bleeding and we have to heal the wounds with united hands," priest Dinha Toma said the service.



I very much hope our troops are enjoying their time on this holiday. They have earned it with their success.
 

alien42

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if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.
 

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Originally posted by: alien42
if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.

You assume too much fool.
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: alien42
if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.

You assume too much fool.

you are speaking for the OP, talking about assuming, how ironic. losar111 can speak for himself and if you have read his posts you would know i am correct.
 

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: alien42
if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.

You assume too much fool.

you are speaking for the OP, talking about assuming, how ironic. losar111 can speak for himself and if you have read his posts you would know i am correct.

Oh
 

Dari

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Christianity is over 2000 years old. I doubt it's the "first" time.

Originally posted by: alien42
if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.

:laugh:
 

DealMonkey

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Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

I can't believe he called it a success. $12 billion a month down the drain.
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

funny, i spent Christmas Eve with a serviceman who spent two tours in Iraq and he is quite happy to be back home in the US and has no desire to go back to that hellhole.
 

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

Worked with a serviceman who did not want to go back.

 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

Worked with a serviceman who did not want to go back.

I have no problem with that. Just the difference between one who cares and one who does not.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

Worked with a serviceman who did not want to go back.

I have no problem with that. Just the difference between one who cares and one who does not.

Haha whatever, I know dozens of current and former servicemen. Very few of them want to go back, and it's not because they don't care. My friends just know bullshit when they smell it. Hell, I've been there and I have no desire to return.

I'm so sick of people who try and speak for 'the troops'. Everyone is different, and nobody wants to be spoken for... especially when people are speaking as to if they want to be sent back to a war.
 

TheSlamma

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Sweet, now they can give homage to their corporate masters over there every December.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

Blow me, asshat. The Iraqis don't want our help. If you weren't such a retard, you and your nephews would realize that.
 

ericlp

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Official Holiday? Billions of dollars later to install church after church after church and convert them.

What a disgrace.

Fuck Iraq, Iran, Israel, and the rest of the middle east I hope they all nuke each other real soon!


Thanks Bush...

Mission Accomplished!
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

Worked with a serviceman who did not want to go back.

I have no problem with that. Just the difference between one who cares and one who does not.

:cookie:
 

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Originally posted by: alien42
if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.

hah, nice
 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: alien42
if the US made Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha official holidays in the US you would have your panties in a wad yet you support Christmas in a Muslim nation.

I don't care who's religion is celebrating what, another day off work is another day off work. :)
 

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Maybe I'm biased as I am a Christian myself, but I see this as a good sign. No, I don't expect muslims to go out and start celebrating the way we or other Christians do, but I do see this as a sign of rapproachment amongst the long-established Christian community in Iraq (who have been threatened lately by terrorism) and the muslim majority. The article describes a muslim cleric and some of his followers joining the Christians' celebration not as a matter of religion, but support of and cooperation with their fellow Iraqis. If that isn't the spirit of Christmas, I don't know what is. Hopefully we will see more of this from all factions in Iraq of all religions.
 

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, I'm real sure the troops are enjoying Christmas in that shithole of a country, thousands of miles away from their loved ones.

:roll:

You should actually talk to a service member sometime instead of your a$$hole. I have nephews who are going back again - voluntarily.

Would they rather be home - yes. But they WANT to be in Iraq to help.

So STFU.

funny, i spent Christmas Eve with a serviceman who spent two tours in Iraq and he is quite happy to be back home in the US and has no desire to go back to that hellhole.
I just saw an old friend of mine yesterday who did two tours as well. He got the hell out. Said all he did over there was go around kicking in doors of people who didn't know dick, and guard oil.