For all you Hummer Haters.....
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"Your analysis is weak. Multitudes of cars share the same platform, be they from GM, Toyota, Ford, etc..... As for "gas guzzler", well, there are many other gas guzzlers out there. And think of this, I drive 4 miles to work and shop locally, drive less than 10,000 miles a year, big deal. Neighbor drives an "economy" car and goes about 50miles each way to work and he drives close to 50,000 miles every year. Guess who guzzles more gas and pollutes more, yep, the econobox. Our "brothers and sisters" are not risking their lives to secure America's fossil fuels, they are there to help liberate Iraq. And FYI, the US only uses 3% of its fuel from Iraq, and that is something that can be replaced very easily. Get your facts straight. Death machine? Try smashing 2 econoboxes together, you have 2 dead drivers. Try smashing an econobox into a tree, you have one dead driver. Size and weight do equate to a better chance of surviving a crash, ask semi drivers about that. Sorry, this argument of yours is extremely weak. The tax loophole is for people buying the vehicle for their small business and using it for that business. If it is done for other purposes, it is illegal and should be checked into. If it wasn't an H2 they were buying, it would be some other large vehicle for use in their business. Get the facts straight. Why don't you try to confront the H2 owners instead of being a pussy and taking a picture with your finger outstretched? Afraid of a little ass kicking? "
James totally OWNED them with that hatemail
James totally OWNED them with that hatemail
the original hummer is at least capable of what it's looks suggest. not only will few H2 owners never try to go off-road (like all SUV owners), but those who do will be coming back in the cabin of a nice cozy tow truck with their precious piece of crap being dragged along behind. that video of the H2 snapping it's axle was hilarious. i swear i've gone down tougher roads in a volvo station wagon.
yeah... i was trying to point out that whoever made that site was probably pissed off that the H2 is a poser vehicle compared to the original... and the other issues he brought up... well... pretty much other cars do that too.
The H2 is the ultimate poseur vehicle. It has the chassis of a Chevy Tahoe and a body that looks like the original Hummer; i.e. it's a Chevy Tahoe in disguise.
-purely subjective
The H2 is a gas guzzler. Because it has a gross vehicle weight rating over 8500 lbs, the US government does not require it to meet federal fuel efficiency regulations. Hummer isn't even required to publish its fuel economy (owners indicate that they get around 10 mpg for normal use). So while our brothers and sisters are off in the Middle East risking their lives to secure America's fossil fuel future, H2 drivers are pissing away our "spoils of victory" during each trip to the grocery store.
-and suburbans arent gas guzzlers?
he H2 is a polluter. Based on G.M.'s optimistic claim that it gets13 mpg, an H2 will produce 3.4 metric tons of carbon emissions in a typical year, nearly double that of G.M.'s Chevrolet Malibu sedan.
-same argument as above just in different words
The H2 is a death machine. You'd better hope that you don't collide with an H2 in your economy car. You can kiss your ass goodbye thanks to the H2's massive weight and raised bumpers. Too bad you couldn't afford an urban assault vehicle of your own. Or could you...?
-this is a plus for H2 drivers. focus should be on improving safty on all cars. i wouldnt be too comfortable with a suburban barreling down at me
The H2 is a tax loophole. Under Bush's new tax plan, business owners can deduct the entire cost of their $55,000 H2. If you are in the highest tax bracket, that's a tax savings of nearly $20,000! The government rewards you more savings for buying an H2 than you'd get for buying an electric car.
-what does this have to do with the car itself????
-purely subjective
The H2 is a gas guzzler. Because it has a gross vehicle weight rating over 8500 lbs, the US government does not require it to meet federal fuel efficiency regulations. Hummer isn't even required to publish its fuel economy (owners indicate that they get around 10 mpg for normal use). So while our brothers and sisters are off in the Middle East risking their lives to secure America's fossil fuel future, H2 drivers are pissing away our "spoils of victory" during each trip to the grocery store.
-and suburbans arent gas guzzlers?
he H2 is a polluter. Based on G.M.'s optimistic claim that it gets13 mpg, an H2 will produce 3.4 metric tons of carbon emissions in a typical year, nearly double that of G.M.'s Chevrolet Malibu sedan.
-same argument as above just in different words
The H2 is a death machine. You'd better hope that you don't collide with an H2 in your economy car. You can kiss your ass goodbye thanks to the H2's massive weight and raised bumpers. Too bad you couldn't afford an urban assault vehicle of your own. Or could you...?
-this is a plus for H2 drivers. focus should be on improving safty on all cars. i wouldnt be too comfortable with a suburban barreling down at me
The H2 is a tax loophole. Under Bush's new tax plan, business owners can deduct the entire cost of their $55,000 H2. If you are in the highest tax bracket, that's a tax savings of nearly $20,000! The government rewards you more savings for buying an H2 than you'd get for buying an electric car.
-what does this have to do with the car itself????
yeah, sure, your 3000lbs Maxima will budge the 8500lbs H2 when you nudge the rear bumper with the top of your hood.
OrganizedChaos
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what an idiot. smash 2 econoboxes together and the results will be far less horrific than 2 SUV's, because a far greater percentage of the weight of the vehicle is devoted to the passenger cage and other safety features. SUV's are like rolling battering rams in comparison.
and i'm sorry, but roads are two way streets, if you'll pardon the pun. when you get on the road, you are putting your life in other people's hands, and other people are putting their lives in your hands. you have a responsibility as a driver to avoid deliberately putting other people into danger. according to the NHTSA, in side collisions, light trucks are 2,000+% more likely to injure a car driver than if it had been another car. i'd say that constitutes putting other people into danger.
and even if you're going to be completely selfish: our local paper prints so many stories of people rolling their SUV's and being ejected out the back window that they might as well devote an entire section to it. it could be called "Natural Selection Today." We lost 3 kids in one week alone to seperate single-vehicle SUV crashes. All rolled over (big surprise). according the NHTSA, you're more than 250% more likely to roll in an SUV than a car. did you know that about 1 in 1000 drivers of Ford Explorer Sports and Chevy Blazer 2-doors will DIE in their vehicle? not just crash it. not just total it, or be injured, or cause other injuries. but actually KILL THEMSELVES. the first step to surviving an accident is not to be in one in the first place. driving an SUV isn't just irresponsible, it's unsafe for you, too.
the shared chassis is not subjective. it is fact.
suburbans get 60% better mileage than H2's. do your research, for christ sake.
pollution is in some ways related to gas consumption, but not entirely, and they are seperate enviromental issues.
if you consider a high center of gravity a safety feature, i have a nice bridge i'd like to sell you.
the tax loophole relates to the car because it means that you and i are paying for huge portions these people's non-work-related vehicles. i have no problem helping a contractor get a work truck. but massage therapists can massage necks just fine in a taurus.
While I think they are getting played out, I still like them better than any minivan that I see out and about and they are IMHO as good if not better looking than many SUVs also...
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