For all those whining about how X2 is not worthit for games

entropy1982

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The best part about this in my opinion is that when one person/company does it.... everyone else tends to follow suit to keep up. Also utilities come out that make programmers lives easier when dealing with new technologies.
 

Duvie

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nice find I saw at some site they may have a demo for that city oif vilians ...I wonder if the demo with be dual core optimised....

Since we are talking about INtel and the unscrupulous manner in which they compete in the business world, I wonder if it will be compiled for iNtel and leave AMD out or degrade the performance....
 

entropy1982

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eh i think that'd be unlikely... of course possible... who knows :) .... most "hardcore gamers" know that amd is the way to go for gaming so i would think that's unlikely

edit: my friend actually got the beta test and they let you invite one person he invited me but i don't want to get into it since i'll be really busy in the next 3-4 weeks
 

Banzai042

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all this right on the heels of Valve complaining that dual core games are a PITA to make, and that DC games won't be out for forever because of that.
 

Lithan

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I doubt these will be efficiently dual core. Probably make one core do 90% of the work and the other core do 10%. But I could be wrong. Now tell me COD2 or Diablo3 (Comon Blizzard you'd make more money than Microsoft if you just gave gamers the games they want instead of worthless 99% Single player expansion packs to games that people only play multiplayer anyway (WC3)) will be dual core optimized and show me some results that prove it actually works and makes a noticable difference, and I'll buy a 3800+ x2 TODAY.
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: Lithan
I doubt these will be efficiently dual core. Probably make one core do 90% of the work and the other core do 10%. But I could be wrong. Now tell me COD2 or Diablo3 (Comon Blizzard you'd make more money than Microsoft if you just gave gamers the games they want instead of worthless 99% Single player expansion packs to games that people only play multiplayer anyway (WC3)) will be dual core optimized and show me some results that prove it actually works and makes a noticable difference, and I'll buy a 3800+ x2 TODAY.


GO diablo3!
 

JEDIYoda

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Looks to me like Intel is trying to put a wedge in the gaming market...dual core vs regular single core...
 

entropy1982

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I doubt it's going to be 90/10 .... to do it in the first place is the hard part. Once you actually figure out how to assign different aspects of the game to a certain processor you can make a decent use of each one in my opinion.
 

exar333

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the challenge will be to have the game optimized for dual core and single core....and eventually quad-core as well...without one suffering...
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Good, hopefully it won't have the annoying and embarrassing skipping issues.



I am sure the intelligent and competent users wont have any issues.....you may want to sell your current X2 and get a P-D chip...LOL!!!!
 

drifter106

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Ok, I am going to be the devils advocate here so to speak. Unless you just fell off the turnip truck people who are "in the know" realize that the x2 provides the user with a chip that intel can't stay up with. Intel people know this, yet they are pushing for game developers to utilize the dual core. What possibly do they have in the works to go against AMD? Its a no brainer that their current lineup can't keep up with the performance of the x2. Any thoughts?
 

jkostans

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Pfff this means nothing. Show me some numbers. I am seriously doubting anything will come of these "optimizations". A real multi-threaded game is going to take much longer to develop, and I know the guys at monolith didn't start with multi-threading in mind. Oh and theres no skipping issue unless you try to set the graphics too high without the required hardware. 256mb video card and 2gb of ram is needed for maximum texture resolution.... pretty much the same with BF2, but for some reason no one complains about that.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Looks to me like Intel is trying to put a wedge in the gaming market...dual core vs regular single core...

I think Intel is trying to move the market towards multithreaded programs just as they moved the market with the acceptance of wireless and mobile computing.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: jkostans
Pfff this means nothing. Show me some numbers. I am seriously doubting anything will come of these "optimizations". A real multi-threaded game is going to take much longer to develop, and I know the guys at monolith didn't start with multi-threading in mind. Oh and theres no skipping issue unless you try to set the graphics too high without the required hardware. 256mb video card and 2gb of ram is needed for maximum texture resolution.... pretty much the same with BF2, but for some reason no one complains about that.

No, I had to tweak around with things because I've gotten bad skipping in BF2 from everything from early X-Fi drivers to trying to run it on only 1 core
 

entropy1982

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jeez ... people get so skeptictal right away "PFFFT BLAH BLAH BLAH" jesus even if it's a 10% increase that's a great deal already it means dual 7800GTXs won't be a bottleneck for much longer and it means now that it's already started it will only get better. If you can buy a chip for 350 that is awesome at multitasking instead of one for 190 that overclocks to about the same but has a single core and the future is looking promising ... this just seems like such a no brainer to me... but of course you'll always have you jkostans that are mad they don't have one =P