Football Rule Question

[Modeps]

Do normal Kickoffs have the same rules as Onside kicks? Meaning, if the ball travels more than 10 yards, it's anyone's ball?

 

[Argo]

Onsite kicks are normal kick offs So the answer is yes.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

yep

 

[dullard]

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

 

[brian_riendeau]

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

 

[Kilrsat]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

Umm... no? Perhaps you're thinking of punting?

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

from nfl.com

4. A kickoff is illegal unless it travels 10 yards OR is touched by the receiving team. Once the ball is touched by the receiving team or has gone 10 yards, it is a free ball. Receivers may recover and advance. Kicking team may recover but NOT advance UNLESS receiver had possession and lost the ball.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: Kilrsat

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

Umm... no? Perhaps you're thinking of punting?

yeah he must be thinking of punting

 

[royaldank]

On kickoffs, the ball is live after it goes 10 years. Either team can pick it up and gain possession. Picking it up in the endzone is a touchdown whether or not the other team touched it.

 

[Gibsons]

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team.

If they get posession, it's a touchdown. I think you're confusing the rules for punts and kickoffs.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

from nfl.com

4. A kickoff is illegal unless it travels 10 yards OR is touched by the receiving team. Once the ball is touched by the receiving team or has gone 10 yards, it is a free ball. Receivers may recover and advance. Kicking team may recover but NOT advance UNLESS receiver had possession and lost the ball.

Alright, because last night I was playing a game of NFL2k5 and my kickoff was completely missed by the receiver... bounced, and came to rest just before the goal line. One of my special team guys picked up the ball, still prior to anyone on the receiving team touching it, and was credited a TD.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

edit: nevermind, it seems enough people already corrected him.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: Kilrsat

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

Umm... no? Perhaps you're thinking of punting?

yes, that's punting, not a kickoff. different rules.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

from nfl.com

4. A kickoff is illegal unless it travels 10 yards OR is touched by the receiving team. Once the ball is touched by the receiving team or has gone 10 yards, it is a free ball. Receivers may recover and advance. Kicking team may recover but NOT advance UNLESS receiver had possession and lost the ball.

Alright, because last night I was playing a game of NFL2k5 and my kickoff was completely missed by the receiver... bounced, and came to rest just before the goal line. One of my special team guys picked up the ball, still prior to anyone on the receiving team touching it, and was credited a TD.

well thats wrong too, unless the ball was on the goal line, the kicking team MAY NOT ADVANCE it, so you should have gotten the ball on the 1, but close enough i guess

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

Don't you just love these "god you're an idiot" posts when they are actually completely wrong.

 

[Modeps]

Sounds like everyone is confused, like me

 

[royaldank]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Sounds like everyone is confused, like me

Your game was correct if the ball was lying on the goal line. However, if it wasn't and let you advance the ball into the endzone, then it's a gameplay mistake.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

lol, that's for punts, not kickoffs.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: royaldank

Originally posted by: Modeps
Sounds like everyone is confused, like me

Your game was correct if the ball was lying on the goal line. However, if it wasn't and let you advance the ball into the endzone, then it's a gameplay mistake.

I didnt zoom in on the ball in the replay, but it looked like it was either just before or on the goalline

 

[brian_riendeau]

Since the kicking team can NOT advance the ball, how are they going to get the touchdown? Unless anyone really thinkgs the receiving team is going to let the ball roll into the endzone, then just sit there w/o touching it.

Someone please enlighten me and show me one example of tha kicking team getting a touchdown on a kickoff in pro football.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau
Whoops, thought we were talking about punts

*hangs head in shame*

the word "kickoffs" is the topic summary and is the third word in the original topic.

 

[brian_riendeau]

I updated my post above.

"Anyone's ball" would imply that the kicking team can advance the ball and score with it. They can NOT, they can only recover the ball for possesion.

 

[Afrotech]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau

Yes. That is why they even bother to catch the ball in the endzone and take a knee. Otherwise the other team will just grab the ball in the endzone and get points.

Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

from nfl.com

4. A kickoff is illegal unless it travels 10 yards OR is touched by the receiving team. Once the ball is touched by the receiving team or has gone 10 yards, it is a free ball. Receivers may recover and advance. Kicking team may recover but NOT advance UNLESS receiver had possession and lost the ball.

own3d

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau
Since the kicking team can NOT advance the ball, how are they going to get the touchdown? Unless anyone really thinkgs the receiving team is going to let the ball roll into the endzone, then just sit there w/o touching it.

Someone please enlighten me and show me one example of tha kicking team getting a touchdown on a kickoff in pro football.

umm... Your response was criticizing the fact that someone pointed out that they bother to catch the ball in the end zone during a kickoff and take a knee. Give up while you're behind.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: brian_riendeau
Where did you play football? Gym class? If the kicking team touches the ball in the endzone, its a touchback, not a score for the kicking team. Now, if the receiving team touches the ball, THEN the kicking team gets it into the end zone from a fumble, the kicking team gets point.

Ok I just looked up the Official NCAA rules. NFL rules are similar. Here is the summary:

1) [Rule 6-1-3a,b, and c] Kicking team may recover a free-kick if (a) receiving team touches it, (b) it passes and stays past the receiveing team's restraining line, or (c) it touches ANY player, ground, or official beyond the receiving team's restraining line.

So, yes the kicking team can recover the ball.

2) [Rule 6-1-6a] If the kicking team recovers the ball, the ball is dead at that point of the recovery.

So, no it can't be advanced. But the recovery COULD be in the receiving team's endzone (see rule below for clarification).

3) [Rule 6-1-7] If the ball hits the endzone line or in the endzone untouched, it is a touchback.

Basically, the result is that if the ball hits the ground before the endzone, then the kicking team may recover it. They may not advance. However, it can hit the ground before the endzone, bounce into the endzone, and be recovered there by the kicking team - with possession in the endzone giving points.

Will that strange set of circumstances ever occur? Probably not. But the rules allow for it. Thus, to answer the original poster's question, the ball is always attempted to be caught by the receiving team to avoid this type of problem.