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Football question..

Does a first down work like a touch down, in that you get it once you break the plane? What happens if a receiever catches a ball 11 yards down but runs backwards a few yards to try to avoid the defender? You can gain 9 yards on a first down to get a first down?
 
i think if the receiver intentionally goes backwards, he would lose the yardage. but if he gets knocked back by a tackle, he will get forward progress. i think.
 
Yes, what desk said. If the receiver, on his own, runs backwards, then he loses that yardage. If he is tackled backwards, then where he caught it, is where they mark it.
 
I thought forward progress was only for running plays. If some safety blindsides a revciever and knocks him back ten feet, isn't he spotted where he fell?
 
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
I thought forward progress was only for running plays. If some safety blindsides a revciever and knocks him back ten feet, isn't he spotted where he fell?

No. It's called forward progress, the ball is spotted where receivers forward progress ended.
 
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
I thought forward progress was only for running plays. If some safety blindsides a revciever and knocks him back ten feet, isn't he spotted where he fell?


Forward progress is counted on all plays.
 
oh. Thats why i would try and tackle recievers in mid air. You can't spot them forward when their feet haven't touched the ground.

note: Leper Messiah hasn't played football competively in 10 years.
 
Originally posted by: yamadakun
no, it counts where the football ended.

It works based on forward progress. The ball is positioned where the receiver is downed or when his forward progress is stopped or when the defense first touches him. In other words, there is nothing defense can do to push back the position of the ball on a posession.
 
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
oh. Thats why i would try and tackle recievers in mid air. You can't spot them forward when their feet haven't touched the ground.

note: Leper Messiah hasn't played football competively in 10 years.

Forward progress works in the air too.
 
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
oh. Thats why i would try and tackle recievers in mid air. You can't spot them forward when their feet haven't touched the ground.

note: Leper Messiah hasn't played football competively in 10 years.

Forward progress works in the air too.

Same concept for the sidelines, too. If a receiver jumps for a catch and would have landed in bounds but a defender knocks him over the sideline, the catch is ruled good and the ball is spotted where the receiver crossed the sideline.
 
Originally posted by: BEL6772
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
oh. Thats why i would try and tackle recievers in mid air. You can't spot them forward when their feet haven't touched the ground.

note: Leper Messiah hasn't played football competively in 10 years.

Forward progress works in the air too.

Same concept for the sidelines, too. If a receiver jumps for a catch and would have landed in bounds but a defender knocks him over the sideline, the catch is ruled good and the ball is spotted where the receiver crossed the sideline.

In NFL, not college.

Just to make sure someone doesn't think it is for both.
 
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