Followup on the "Uterus Branding" doctor

[Fausto]

Doctor Defends Branding Woman's Uterus

On the one hand, this is a pretty stupid thing to say:

Guiler, who used a cauterizing instrument to brand "UK" on Stephanie Means' uterus, said the letters marked the organ's midline and distinguished its left and right side.

"Not only am I always able to remain oriented for the patient's safety, I felt this was honorable since it made reference to the college of medicine where I received my medical degree," he said in the statement, which he read to reporters.

But on the other hand, who the hell watches a tape of their own hysterectomy?:

Means filed suit last week, claiming she suffered emotional distress after viewing a videotape of last year's operation. She and her husband are seeking unspecified damages.

 

[MainFramed]

 

[notfred]

He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

Read the end of the article. It states that marking the uterus with a brand or stitches is common procedure prior to the removal. This was discussed beforehand with the patient.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

If your gangrenous foot was being amputated, would you really care if the doctor cut the skin on the bottom of your toe or something, as long as you couldn't feel it?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

thats exacly why teh legal system needs to be changes. stupid people sueing for every lil thing. my kid is stupid sue teh school. i cant walk fell down sue teh store. someone put a letter on my dead uterous that was being thrown out. SUE!

peopel in this country and in the world sue over nothing. SH!T happens get over it. people need to get real jobs and start worrying about things that are really important. and all theyse lawyers arnt helping it any

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

thats exacly why teh legal system needs to be changes. stupid people sueing for every lil thing. my kid is stupid sue teh school. i cant walk fell down sue teh store. someone put a letter on my dead uterous that was being thrown out. SUE!

peopel in this country and in the world sue over nothing. SH!T happens get over it. people need to get real jobs and start worrying about things that are really important. and all theyse lawyers arnt helping it any

Dude, it's not "stupid people suing", if it was an unwarranted branding, then that (I think) qualifies as malpractice.

OTOH, if it was for a legitimate medical reason, I don't see any reason why they would sue.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

thats exacly why teh legal system needs to be changes. stupid people sueing for every lil thing. my kid is stupid sue teh school. i cant walk fell down sue teh store. someone put a letter on my dead uterous that was being thrown out. SUE!

peopel in this country and in the world sue over nothing. SH!T happens get over it. people need to get real jobs and start worrying about things that are really important. and all theyse lawyers arnt helping it any

Dude, it's not "stupid people suing", if it was an unwarranted branding, then that (I think) qualifies as malpractice.

OTOH, if it was for a legitimate medical reason, I don't see any reason why they would sue.

Read the end of the article. It states that marking the uterus with a brand or stitches is common procedure prior to the removal. This was discussed beforehand with the patient.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

thats exacly why teh legal system needs to be changes. stupid people sueing for every lil thing. my kid is stupid sue teh school. i cant walk fell down sue teh store. someone put a letter on my dead uterous that was being thrown out. SUE!

peopel in this country and in the world sue over nothing. SH!T happens get over it. people need to get real jobs and start worrying about things that are really important. and all theyse lawyers arnt helping it any

Dude, it's not "stupid people suing", if it was an unwarranted branding, then that (I think) qualifies as malpractice.

OTOH, if it was for a legitimate medical reason, I don't see any reason why they would sue.

Read the end of the article. It states that marking the uterus with a brand or stitches is common procedure prior to the removal. This was discussed beforehand with the patient.

I read that after I posted my first comment. That's why I added the "OTOH" in this statement.

 

[Viper GTS]

n/m, you edited your post...

Viper GTS

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: notfred
He was cutting the thing out and throwing it away. Who cares what it says on it?

agree

So? It's still unrequested bodily mutilation.

if someone was taking something out of my body. or say cutting off a limb i couldent care less what they did to it. and in all actuallity id probibily wanna play with it myself

Doesn't matter, legally you'd have to give permission in advance.

Like Fausto already said, read the article.

Viper GTS

I did, and I mentioned that in my post two posts up.

 

[BatmanNate]

My mother is in the medical field, and according to her this is pretty common practice, marking organs that are to be removed in order to avoid confusion upon removal. I don't see what the big deal is, it doesn't hurt her any, and they were taking it out to begin with. Emotional distress is a big scape goat, she's just greedy.

 

[SoylentGreen]

What kind of sick fsck wants to watch that anyway?

I should have taped my hernia operation and sued for distress because I watched the doctor pull intestines out of my balls.

 

[royaldank]

And really, how does this cause emotional distress? I'm joking in a way, but I seriously want to know what emotional distress she suffered. Did she have nightmares about a huge uterus with the letters UK on it attacking her? Did it bring up some bad memories of some prick that she dated from UK? Is she against the United Kingdom?

I can understand that she could sue for malpractice if it was unwarranted, unneeded, or without permission. But, I'd really like to know what emotional distress she is/was having.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: Kiyup
What kind of sick fsck wants to watch that anyway?

I should have taped my hernia operation and sued for distress because I watched the doctor pull intestines out of my balls.

Tahnk you for that great mental picture. Remind me to kill you later.

 

[KK]

As I said in the other thread, thank god she can't have children anymore, if only they would have done this years ago to her.

KK

 

[tcsenter]

My mother is in the medical field, and according to her this is pretty common practice, marking organs that are to be removed in order to avoid confusion upon removal. I don't see what the big deal is, it doesn't hurt her any, and they were taking it out to begin with. Emotional distress is a big scape goat, she's just greedy.

It is common to mark tissue when its orientation to the pathologist is not self-evident by its anatomy. In this case, its an entire uterus. Kinda hard to confuse its orientation.

I've worked in a lot of laproscopic procedures with a lot of surgeons, this would be the first I've heard of a surgeon who doesn't know his left from his right without a "visual aid". I suppose there's a first time for everything, but I certainly wouldn't want him operating on my wife if he needs a "visual aid" to keep his left and right straight. The image as you see it on the screen is not flipped, its anatomical.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

My mother is in the medical field, and according to her this is pretty common practice, marking organs that are to be removed in order to avoid confusion upon removal. I don't see what the big deal is, it doesn't hurt her any, and they were taking it out to begin with. Emotional distress is a big scape goat, she's just greedy.

It is common to mark tissue when its orientation to the pathologist is not self-evident by its anatomy. In this case, its an entire uterus. Kinda hard to confuse its orientation.

I've worked in a lot of laproscopic procedures with a lot of surgeons, this would be the first I've heard of a surgeon who doesn't know his left from his right without a "visual aid". I suppose there's a first time for everything, but I certainly wouldn't want him operating on my wife if he needs a "visual aid" to keep his left and right straight. The image as you see it on the screen is not flipped, its anatomical.

The image on the screen depends on which way the handle in being held. If the handle is turned, the image turns.

I can see how wanting to be absolutely sure which is the right or left side can be an issue in these procedures. Hell, just watching these things on TLC's "The Operation" *I* get turned around. The camera inside the body goes every which way during the course of the operation.

 

[tcsenter]

The image on the screen depends on which way the handle in being held. If the handle is turned, the image turns. I can see how wanting to be absolutely sure which is the right or left side can be an issue in these procedures. Hell, just watching these things on TLC's "The Operation" *I* get turned around. The camera inside the body goes every which way during the course of the operation.

I know, I was the one who controlled the camera or other laproscopic instruments during surgery. The only reason the image would become 'flipped' is when the camera is being held upside down. Depending on the camera system used, there are some digital controls that will flip the image on screen horizontally, but they're never used.

If this doctor is being honest then it can only mean his competence in laproscopic procedure's sucks. There's just no easy way to confuse your right and left unless you're a complete novice, in which case I wouldn't want him operating on my wife.

In any event, this isn't a malpractice issue, its an issue of professionalism and good taste. Its reasonable to test the cautery on actual tissue, or mark the orientation of the tissue if needed, but not to play "Dudley Doodler" while you're in there.

 

[Geekbabe]

Just think,with capping malpractice damages we could get a few doctors like this gem in the USA!

 

[Pliablemoose]

My mother is in the medical field, and according to her this is pretty common practice, marking organs that are to be removed in order to avoid confusion upon removal. I don't see what the big deal is, it doesn't hurt her any, and they were taking it out to begin with. Emotional distress is a big scape goat, she's just greedy.

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The organ was "branded" on it's way to the incinerator, this is another fine example of a BS lawsuit driving up medical costs...

Some cultures save their removed organs/body parts for burial, unless this woman is from one of those cultures, the lawsuit is BS...