Following too closely

[kornphlake]

If you're having a really really bad day you could always do the ol stop short slam on the brakes when the light turns red and let them rear end your beater truck which may or may not cut their heads off.

You seem to be more than normally enthusiastic about causing harm to other people's person or property. I sincerely hope this is your online alter-ego and doesn't accurately represent how you interact with people in real life, otherwise you should probably seek professional counciling. Posting comments like this could turn an innocent accident into premeditated murder if a really good lawyer got involved.

 

[ShawnD1]

You seem to be more than normally enthusiastic about causing harm to other people's person or property. I sincerely hope this is your online alter-ego and doesn't accurately represent how you interact with people in real life, otherwise you should probably seek professional counciling. Posting comments like this could turn an innocent accident into premeditated murder if a really good lawyer got involved.

I seriously doubt that. If you're stopping at a red light or a stop sign and someone rear ends you, it's their fault 110% of the time. That's silly to expect you to blow through stop signs just so some retard doesn't get decapitated by your truck's tail gate.

 

[Bignate603]

This is all true enough, but I bolded your conclusion. With reasonable uniform acceleration and tailgating, it takes 12 seconds + tax to get 20 cars through an intersection from a dead stop.

Unless you have everyone riding each other's bumpers and all step on the gas at the same time you'll never get 20 cars through a light in 12 seconds. Reaction time and people allowing the gap between them and the car in front to grow as they start moving will cause the amount of time to be SIGNIFICANTLY higher than that. Usually by the time the cars start moving more than 10 mph the people have already let an extra car length or two between them and the car in front of them. Let's say they let an extra 1.5 car lengths of a gap form as the car in front of them pulls away before they accelerate and they have a .5 second reaction time per car. Your 12 seconds without accounting for people actually drive just became 40 seconds when you do.

Also, if you're tailgating the guy in front of you so badly that you don't allow a car length to grow between you and him as you begin to move away from a light you're a terrible driver. If you don't understand why this makes you a terrible driver, you're an even worse driver.

With the 3 second follow rule, it takes a full minute. Efficiency is reduced to less than 1/3. In regular traffic where it's normal to have 20 cars in each lane waiting for a light to change, the follow distance is probably a lot closer to 1 second, which is less safe, but it doesn't seem to be a major cause of accidents. A lot more accidents are caused by cutting people off, running red lights, and left turns.

No, more accidents are caused by people bumping into each other because they aren't paying attention and/or following too closely. More SERIOUS accidents are caused by what you mentioned but fender benders where somebody rear ends the car in front of them is easily the most common form of accident where I live.

 

[Bignate603]

I seriously doubt that. If you're stopping at a red light or a stop sign and someone rear ends you, it's their fault 110% of the time. That's silly to expect you to blow through stop signs just so some retard doesn't get decapitated by your truck's tail gate.

If you're having a really really bad day you could always do the ol stop short slam on the brakes when the light turns red and let them rear end your beater truck which may or may not cut their heads off.

So your options are stopping short to purposely cause an accident or running the stop sign/red light?

 

[KentState]

If you're having a really really bad day you could always do the ol stop short slam on the brakes when the light turns red and let them rear end your beater truck which may or may not cut their heads off.

I don't really do anything if someone is tailgating me. People who hardcore tailgate you are the same people who won't fuck off if you tap the brakes.

Similarly, I hardcore tailgate old people who go half the speed limit. DRIVE THE SPEED POSTED ON THE SIGN YOU GOD DAMN RETARD. So they slow down more. Still tailgating. A couple weeks ago me and the old people in front were going about 20mph in a 50mph zone. They would actually slow down that much just to annoy me. I wasn't in a hurry so I just stuck with it.

I was watching a lot of Dexter episodes when this happened. Almost considered becoming a serial killer

Slamming on the brakes is not really an option in a $70k car. I probably would stop much quicker and experience a lot of expensive damage.

 

[ShawnD1]

No, more accidents are caused by people bumping into each other because they aren't paying attention and/or following too closely. More SERIOUS accidents are caused by what you mentioned but fender benders where somebody rear ends the car in front of them is easily the most common form of accident where I live.

I'm trying to find some numbers on this and I can't seem to find anything solid. 99% of the google results involving the words "car accident" are lawyers websites D:

Anyway,
top 10 causes of car accidents

1 – talking on a cellular phone
2 – fucking with the radio
3 – eating while driving
4 – rubbernecking (not looking at the road)
5 – drinking and driving
6 – getting high and flying
7 – other distractions (kids and blowjobs)
8 – driving too fast
9 – driving like a retard (probably includes tailgating)
10 – shitty roads

That actually does sound about right. Most of those are related to distractions. So far I've only been in 1 car crash and it was caused by the other guy not yielding. It was a car with 4 teens, 2 were men and 2 were women. He probably didn't yield because he was distracted.

Slamming on the brakes is not really an option in a $70k car. I probably would stop much quicker and experience a lot of expensive damage.

That's why I said get a beater. Nobody wants to scratch a car they care about. Beaters are great because you just don't care. When I owned a crappy Ford Tempo, I hit a shopping cart in that thing going about 20mph. It was awesome.

 

[Bignate603]

I'm trying to find some numbers on this and I can't seem to find anything solid. 99% of the google results involving the words "car accident" are lawyers websites D:

Anyway,
top 10 causes of car accidents

1 – talking on a cellular phone
2 – fucking with the radio
3 – eating while driving
4 – rubbernecking (not looking at the road)
5 – drinking and driving
6 – getting high and flying
7 – other distractions (kids and blowjobs)
8 – driving too fast
9 – driving like a retard (probably includes tailgating)
10 – shitty roads

That actually does sound about right. Most of those are related to distractions. So far I've only been in 1 car crash and it was caused by the other guy not yielding. It was a car with 4 teens, 2 were men and 2 were women. He probably didn't yield because he was distracted.

The article says that these are 10 common causes, it makes no attempt to rank how what causes more accidents. Anybody can list things that can logically cause car crashes but it doesn't do a thing to tell you how often they occur. On top of that, pretty much every single one of them is made worse by following too closely. If you leave enough space it's less likely that a small mistake will cause you to slam into the car ahead of you because you'll have more time to react.

Your article does nothing to prove your point. Look! I can post articles about cars that do nothing to further my argument too! Woohoo! Isn't this making you believe that I know what I'm talking about? I'm sure that posting links that don't really support my argument will make you change your mind! Maybe I need some more hyperbole and bad analogies?!?!

 

[ShawnD1]

The article says that these are 10 common causes, it makes no attempt to rank how what causes more accidents. Anybody can list things that can logically cause car crashes but it doesn't do a thing to tell you how often they occur.

?????

I posted a link to the Canadian Automobile Association, the people who keep statistics on this sort of thing. That's their list of the top 10 most common car crashes. Driving like a retard which may or may not include tailgating came in 9th place. It's nowhere near the top cause of crashes as you previous speculated and were wrong about.

 

[kornphlake]

I seriously doubt that. If you're stopping at a red light or a stop sign and someone rear ends you, it's their fault 110% of the time. That's silly to expect you to blow through stop signs just so some retard doesn't get decapitated by your truck's tail gate.

There's a difference between stopping normally at a light or stop sign and slamming on the breaks suddenly to cause someone to rear end you. Doing as you describe does not make the person in the rear 110% at fault, it likely makes you guilty of insurance fraud and if a death results from the accident you're guilty of murder.

I'm not surprised you can't understand this, every response you've ever written on this forum is ignorant or just plain dumb and you argue your point tirelessly rather it's right or wrong. I'd call you a troll, but I honestly think you're messed up enough in your head that you aren't intentionally trolling, you're just a degenerate person. Put down the keyboard and pick up the yellow pages, your socialized healthcare must provide some form of mental health counciling.

 

[ShawnD1]

I'm not surprised you can't understand this, every response you've ever written on this forum is ignorant or just plain dumb and you argue your point tirelessly rather it's right or wrong. I'd call you a troll, but I honestly think you're messed up enough in your head that you aren't intentionally trolling, you're just a degenerate person. Put down the keyboard and pick up the yellow pages, your socialized healthcare must provide some form of mental health counciling.

Seeing a psychologist for 10+ years costs more than the cost of replacing a beater truck after some kids smash into the back of it and die. I'm sorry but your suggestion just doesn't make any financial sense.

 

[Bignate603]

?????

I posted a link to the Canadian Automobile Association, the people who keep statistics on this sort of thing. That's their list of the top 10 most common car crashes. Driving like a retard which may or may not include tailgating came in 9th place. It's nowhere near the top cause of crashes as you previous speculated and were wrong about.

I hate to break it to you, but that's a fluff piece. Something that looks good but has zero actual information in it. There's no reference to any statistics at all in it. If they had any real numbers they'd say so. They don't say a thing about any real numbers, so they don't have squat.

 

[ShawnD1]

I hate to break it to you, but that's a fluff piece. Something that looks good but has zero actual information in it. There's no reference to any statistics at all in it. If they had any real numbers they'd say so. They don't say a thing about any real numbers, so they don't have squat.

It's written by an insurance company, so that should tell you something about how they come up with this stuff.

 

[Bignate603]

It's written by an insurance company, so that should tell you something about how they come up with this stuff.

It tells me that insurance companies like to write fluff pieces that an intern can pound out in about an hour.

Most of those things that they say are a risk are practically impossible to track anyways. Nobody admits that they caused an accident because they were messing with their phone or their CD player so there's no way they have any conclusive numbers. The whole article is conjecture and it's pretty obvious.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

So your options are stopping short to purposely cause an accident or running the stop sign/red light?

He has been taking lessons from Hal.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I'm trying to find some numbers on this and I can't seem to find anything solid. 99% of the google results involving the words "car accident" are lawyers websites D:

Anyway,
top 10 causes of car accidents

1 – talking on a cellular phone
2 – fucking with the radio
3 – eating while driving
4 – rubbernecking (not looking at the road)
5 – drinking and driving
6 – getting high and flying
7 – other distractions (kids and blowjobs)
8 – driving too fast
9 – driving like a retard (probably includes tailgating)
10 – shitty roads

To help you understand I've highlighted in bold only the accident types above that would either result in a rear-ending or in which the rear ending would be worse if you do not leave a decent 2 second gap.

 

[arcenite]

Its great screwing with people like that. When you're doing 70 in a 55 and they are riding your ass with their HIDs and fog lights burried in your bumper like they think they are somebody. Slow and coast and they swerve into on coming traffic to "show you who's boss", then you promptly cut their balls off with a flick of the right toe so they have to get back over 10 cars behind you still and feel like a retard.

Hah. Someone has to really piss me off for me to do that. I've learned to control silly emotions triggered by "idiot" drivers.