Follow-Up Test: 2003 Volkswagen GTI 20th Anniversary

[NFS4]

Follow-Up Test: 2003 Volkswagen GTI 20th Anniversary

 

[Turkish]

looks nice... although people like to bash on VW, i like all of their vehicles including the Golf GTI.... just not that green.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Xiety
looks nice... although people like to bash on VW, i like all of their vehicles including the Golf GTI.... just not that green.

People bash on VW's because of this:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-03-reliablechart.htm

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Xiety
looks nice... although people like to bash on VW, i like all of their vehicles including the Golf GTI.... just not that green.

People bash on VW's because of this:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-03-reliablechart.htm

Well... sorry but I like the way GTI drives far more than Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla or Toyota Echo I know VWs are not the most reliable cars, but I think they are enjoyable machines.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Xiety
looks nice... although people like to bash on VW, i like all of their vehicles including the Golf GTI.... just not that green.

People bash on VW's because of this:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-03-reliablechart.htm[/q
And because some people had a misfortune of actually having to deal with a POS like VW Golf. I completely agree with those ratings.

 

[JBAR]

Let's not forget the legendary VW reliability. :cough:

My Matrix XRS could take it, especially when I hit lift.

Edit: whoah, didn't see all those other posts re: reliability.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: JBAR
Let's not forget the legendary VW reliability. :cough:

My Matrix XRS could take it, especially when I hit lift.

Edit: whoah, didn't see all those other posts re: reliability.

Toyota Matrix XRS 0-60 Time (in seconds): 8.9
VW Golf GTI 1.8 T 0-60 Time (in seconds): 7.1

you are misinformed my friend

 

[Imported]

I'd rather get a WRX.. isn't the 20th Anniversary edition one close to the price of one?

 

[Turkish]

6k difference i believe. i am not sure.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JBAR
Let's not forget the legendary VW reliability. :cough:

My Matrix XRS could take it, especially when I hit lift.

Edit: whoah, didn't see all those other posts re: reliability.

Toyota Matrix XRS 0-60 Time (in seconds): 8.9
VW Golf GTI 1.8 T 0-60 Time (in seconds): 7.1

you are misinformed my friend

Whatever smokey

By adding a muffler that approximates an exhaust note more often produced by aftermarket systems, the Matrix XRS's 1.8L/180-hp TLEV-spec engine sounds more aggressive than the other two. With an eyebrow-raising 9000-rpm redline, it's a car ready for the pages of Super Street magazine. Driving it around town, we find ourselves looking less at the tach for shift points and more to the momentum we feel in our seats and the tone reaching our ears. Occasional glances reveal we've been driving it comfortably in the 3000-6000-rpm range, which comes as a bit of a surprise. Sure, it sounds a little buzzy, but that's where it likes to perform. If we want to awaken the angry nest of wasps under the XRS' hood, we simply keep the pedal matted past the magical 6000-rpm VVTL-i changeover to its high-lift long-duration cam timing. There's plenty of wheelspin on tap if you want it, and moderating this tendency with a sensitive foot on the accelerator nets an SVT Focus-beating 7.26-sec 0-60-mph time

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/wagon/112_0205_wag/index3.html

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JBAR
Let's not forget the legendary VW reliability. :cough:

My Matrix XRS could take it, especially when I hit lift.

Edit: whoah, didn't see all those other posts re: reliability.

Toyota Matrix XRS 0-60 Time (in seconds): 8.9
VW Golf GTI 1.8 T 0-60 Time (in seconds): 7.1

you are misinformed my friend

Whatever smokey

By adding a muffler that approximates an exhaust note more often produced by aftermarket systems, the Matrix XRS's 1.8L/180-hp TLEV-spec engine sounds more aggressive than the other two. With an eyebrow-raising 9000-rpm redline, it's a car ready for the pages of Super Street magazine. Driving it around town, we find ourselves looking less at the tach for shift points and more to the momentum we feel in our seats and the tone reaching our ears. Occasional glances reveal we've been driving it comfortably in the 3000-6000-rpm range, which comes as a bit of a surprise. Sure, it sounds a little buzzy, but that's where it likes to perform. If we want to awaken the angry nest of wasps under the XRS' hood, we simply keep the pedal matted past the magical 6000-rpm VVTL-i changeover to its high-lift long-duration cam timing. There's plenty of wheelspin on tap if you want it, and moderating this tendency with a sensitive foot on the accelerator nets an SVT Focus-beating 7.26-sec 0-60-mph time

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/wagon/112_0205_wag/index3.html

well still, 7.1 seconds is shorter than 7.26 seconds Or am i wrong about GTI's 7.1 seconds?

 

[JBAR]

Ahem, what he said. And where did you get those XRS times? Maybe for the XR or the discontinued automatic. Plus it is the quarter mile that counts.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: JBAR
Ahem, what he said. And where did you get those XRS times? Maybe for the XR or the discontinued automatic. Plus it is the quarter mile that counts.

why? are your all destinations 0.25 miles away from you on a straight road?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JBAR
Let's not forget the legendary VW reliability. :cough:

My Matrix XRS could take it, especially when I hit lift.

Edit: whoah, didn't see all those other posts re: reliability.

Toyota Matrix XRS 0-60 Time (in seconds): 8.9
VW Golf GTI 1.8 T 0-60 Time (in seconds): 7.1

you are misinformed my friend

Whatever smokey

By adding a muffler that approximates an exhaust note more often produced by aftermarket systems, the Matrix XRS's 1.8L/180-hp TLEV-spec engine sounds more aggressive than the other two. With an eyebrow-raising 9000-rpm redline, it's a car ready for the pages of Super Street magazine. Driving it around town, we find ourselves looking less at the tach for shift points and more to the momentum we feel in our seats and the tone reaching our ears. Occasional glances reveal we've been driving it comfortably in the 3000-6000-rpm range, which comes as a bit of a surprise. Sure, it sounds a little buzzy, but that's where it likes to perform. If we want to awaken the angry nest of wasps under the XRS' hood, we simply keep the pedal matted past the magical 6000-rpm VVTL-i changeover to its high-lift long-duration cam timing. There's plenty of wheelspin on tap if you want it, and moderating this tendency with a sensitive foot on the accelerator nets an SVT Focus-beating 7.26-sec 0-60-mph time

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/wagon/112_0205_wag/index3.html

well still, 7.1 seconds is shorter than 7.26 seconds Or am i wrong about GTI's 7.1 seconds?

a few tenths of a second mean nothing - at that point, it all depends on the skill of the driver. Most "normal" people will not be able to achieve these 0-60 scores, so you're argument holds no water.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JBAR
Let's not forget the legendary VW reliability. :cough:

My Matrix XRS could take it, especially when I hit lift.

Edit: whoah, didn't see all those other posts re: reliability.

Toyota Matrix XRS 0-60 Time (in seconds): 8.9
VW Golf GTI 1.8 T 0-60 Time (in seconds): 7.1

you are misinformed my friend

Whatever smokey

By adding a muffler that approximates an exhaust note more often produced by aftermarket systems, the Matrix XRS's 1.8L/180-hp TLEV-spec engine sounds more aggressive than the other two. With an eyebrow-raising 9000-rpm redline, it's a car ready for the pages of Super Street magazine. Driving it around town, we find ourselves looking less at the tach for shift points and more to the momentum we feel in our seats and the tone reaching our ears. Occasional glances reveal we've been driving it comfortably in the 3000-6000-rpm range, which comes as a bit of a surprise. Sure, it sounds a little buzzy, but that's where it likes to perform. If we want to awaken the angry nest of wasps under the XRS' hood, we simply keep the pedal matted past the magical 6000-rpm VVTL-i changeover to its high-lift long-duration cam timing. There's plenty of wheelspin on tap if you want it, and moderating this tendency with a sensitive foot on the accelerator nets an SVT Focus-beating 7.26-sec 0-60-mph time

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/wagon/112_0205_wag/index3.html

well still, 7.1 seconds is shorter than 7.26 seconds Or am i wrong about GTI's 7.1 seconds?

a few tenths of a second mean nothing - at that point, it all depends on the skill of the driver. Most "normal" people will not be able to achieve these 0-60 scores, so you're argument holds no water.

neither does his then

 

[JBAR]

Plus the 04 XRS has been retuned to produce more torque at a lower rpm, thereby increasing 0-60 times. And don't even start comparing 40-60 numbers. You have to experience lift to appreciate it.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: JBAR
Plus the 04 XRS has been retuned to produce more torque at a lower rpm, thereby increasing 0-60 times. And don't even start comparing 40-60 numbers. You have to experience lift to appreciate it.

well, you don't have a 2004 Matrix XRS right? Our argument was based on your Matrix XRS

 

[JBAR]

I do have an 04.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: JBAR
I do have an 04.

cool then

 

[KokomoGST]

And the Golf R32 would be the better choice if you wanted a modern "GTI"... the current GTI isn't light or tossable in stock form at all.

If you wanted straightline speed in that class, there's three letters that dominates the new sub-$20k sporty car class in outright performance. SRT
I'd go for a Mazdaspeed Protege though if I wanted speed and decent handling... that's despite the foregone conclusion that the Mazda's wimpy engine is bound to throw a rod in the future.

 

[JBAR]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: JBAR
I do have an 04.

cool then

Peace!

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: KokomoGST
And the Golf R32 would be the better choice if you wanted a modern "GTI"... the current GTI isn't light or tossable in stock form at all.

If you wanted straightline speed in that class, there's three letters that dominates the new sub-$20k sporty car class in outright performance. SRT
I'd go for a Mazdaspeed Protege though if I wanted speed and decent handling... that's despite the foregone conclusion that the Mazda's wimpy engine is bound to throw a rod in the future.

yummm R32

that car is slick

 

[Corporate Thug]

the color is a little out there

 

[Imported]

Originally posted by: Xiety
6k difference i believe. i am not sure.

Err.. I'll take a used WRX then.

 

[NFS4]

Screw the GTI, THIS is what I want