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Folding@Home: The Now Outdated FAQ

Hi jliechty!
I am very new and I don't know much or what I am doing, so these are some ideas that might or might not be helpful.

I would disagree with this:
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A dialup connection that must be initiated manually will be much harder to deal with; you might be able to work around this by using a monitoring program (discussed below) and carefully watching the work unit completion times to ensure that you can provide the dialup connection just before F@H gets done with its work unit, but this would be a very big pain in a certain area of the body, and I don't recommend it if you want to retain your sanity and not get burnt out on F@H in a very short time.
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If you have set the client to "Ask before using Network", it IS NOT "much harder to deal with" and you DO NOT have to "carefully watch" anything! When a work unit is finished, a small dialog opens that says ready to connect. When a person dials up to check email, they just click OK on that dialog and it sends results and gets another WU. There might be a few hours that the computer is not folding, but is that a reason to discourage a potential folder from joining the TeAm?

Also: I noticed on another thread that some of the other DC clients use lots of memory (20MB on one and 50MB for another). With the console and core combined F@H only uses 2.5MB on my system it looks like. If people knew this it might influence them to do F@H instead of something else. Or someone running a different client that has hyperthreading computer could run their client and F@H because it uses less memory. Maybe? I don't know.

Anyway, thanks for the FAQ, I added it to my sig.
 
Originally posted by: mikecel79
Originally posted by: lnguyen
i like this service install:
http://www.bluetentacle.co.uk/dc/fahservice.htm
Linky no worky for me....
It works ok for me right now. 😕

Try the Google cache of the page, if there's a disturbance of the for... er... internet between your provider and theirs. 😱

Gleem, please don't feel neglected; I'll address your concerns later, as I don't have much time right now...

Edit for speling. 😉
 
Originally posted by: GLeeM
Hi jliechty!
I am very new and I don't know much or what I am doing, so these are some ideas that might or might not be helpful.

I would disagree with this:
Quote
A dialup connection that must be initiated manually will be much harder to deal with; you might be able to work around this by using a monitoring program (discussed below) and carefully watching the work unit completion times to ensure that you can provide the dialup connection just before F@H gets done with its work unit, but this would be a very big pain in a certain area of the body, and I don't recommend it if you want to retain your sanity and not get burnt out on F@H in a very short time.
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If you have set the client to "Ask before using Network", it IS NOT "much harder to deal with" and you DO NOT have to "carefully watch" anything! When a work unit is finished, a small dialog opens that says ready to connect. When a person dials up to check email, they just click OK on that dialog and it sends results and gets another WU. There might be a few hours that the computer is not folding, but is that a reason to discourage a potential folder from joining the TeAm?
Well, true, but admittedly it is quite a bit more of a hassle than using any of the clients that can cache work (SETI with SETIQ, RC5 [bleh], DPAD, and some of the other medical projects). I don't want to discourage any potential TeAmmates, but I don't want to get people's hopes up, either, only to have them disappointed.
Also: I noticed on another thread that some of the other DC clients use lots of memory (20MB on one and 50MB for another). With the console and core combined F@H only uses 2.5MB on my system it looks like. If people knew this it might influence them to do F@H instead of something else. Or someone running a different client that has hyperthreading computer could run their client and F@H because it uses less memory. Maybe? I don't know.

Anyway, thanks for the FAQ, I added it to my sig.
That number is not very accurate. Do this experiment: close your F@H client, open the task manager, observe the "commit charge" (the first number in the right panel of the status bar). Now, open the F@H client, and see how much that number jumps. It will vary depending on the WU, but with a p520_BBA5_pf, I'm showing a 25MB increase in memory usage when F@H loads. I have seen it go as high as 50MB in the past with particularly complex WUs.
 
Yeah I didn't know how to figure ram usage. Thanks for the info.

My rig sat several hours today only working on one WU while I was at work. Being able to cache one WU would be nice.
But the WU was waiting for me to connect.
 
The WUs(?) are getting bigger for FaH right? I almost remember someone mentioning that it is taking longer to dump an FaH WU than it used to or something.

I only bring this up because I started running FaH this morning/afternoon sometime, and haven't seen anything on the stats yet. Dual p3 866, running two clients. Since it's the only Linux machine I have, it will probably be the only one running FaH, unless someone wants to donate a hyper threading p4... 😉
 
There are many different size work units. They can take anywhere from 5-7 hours to 6-7 days depending on the WU and the speed of the system you are using.

Linux users will get more Tinker core WUs than Windows users will get. It'll probably take a few days to crunch through the WUs on your dual 866.
 
And speaking of the other kind of WU sizes, a subject of interest to those of us who have dialup connections, the amount of data downloaded for Tinker vs. Gromacs is not a noticeable difference to me on a 56K line. However, completed Tinkers upload rather quickly, while I'd suppose on the other hand that a finished Gromacs WU is probably the greater part of a megabyte.
 
Originally posted by: Hyperfocal
There are many different size work units. They can take anywhere from 5-7 hours to 6-7 days depending on the WU and the speed of the system you are using.

Linux users will get more Tinker core WUs than Windows users will get. It'll probably take a few days to crunch through the WUs on your dual 866.

Thanks for the info. I wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting cycles or anything. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Hyperfocal
Bump and a question.

How do you set up F@H to load automatically on boot in Linux? Preferably in the background.

You should be able to write a quick startup script to start it at boot.

Look at /etc/init.d
 
Originally posted by: Insidious
My Q:

what are the prefered switches for maximum pointage?

Your A:

tia! :beer:

-Sid


With the new points values, I would say just use -forceasm (for Intel) and -forceSSE (for AMD)

All the point values went up, but the Tinker and Gromacs units are now worth pretty much the same.

-advmethods now just indicates you are willing to fold beta units.
 
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