Flying Imams Suing Passengers

[imported_dna]

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[T]he most alarming aspect of the imams' suit is buried in paragraph 21 of their complaint. It describes "John Doe" defendants whose identity the imams' attorneys are still investigating. It reads: "Defendants 'John Does' were passengers ... who contacted U.S. Airways to report the alleged 'suspicious' behavior of Plaintiffs' performing their prayer at the airport terminal."

Paragraph 22 adds: "Plaintiffs will seek leave to amend this Complaint to allege true names, capacities, and circumstances supporting [these defendants'] liability ... at such time as Plaintiffs ascertain the same."

In plain English, the imams plan to sue the "John Does," too.

Who are these unnamed culprits? The complaint describes them as "an older couple who was sitting [near the imams] and purposely turn[ed] around to watch" as they prayed. "The gentleman ('John Doe') in the couple ... picked up his cellular phone and made a phone call while watching the Plaintiffs pray," then "moved to a corner" and "kept talking into his cellular phone."

So, what do you think about this twist?

Seems to me like a case of court jihad.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'd say it will be a cold day in hell when you can sue people for profound ignorance and hysterical fear. These two though might make excellent candidates for Olbermann's 'Worst Persons in the World'.

 

[Aimster]

court Jihad?

You obviously never took a law class in your entire life.

You sue as many people as you can. This is the United States.

Yet Another Muslim Bashing Thread By Meuge.

 

[1prophet]

The only one who should be sued is the airline and or people arresting them, since they alone had the power to remove them from the flight. Better to report something and let the proper authorities make the decision, in this case the airline and hold them fully accountable.

What CAIR is doing is making an example to intimidate others, no different then how the maffia and drug gangs silence any would be witnesses.


from article:

The men said the arrest was degrading and a violation of their civil rights, and the event provoked outrage from several minority groups. At a news conference Tuesday morning, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said the government must work to protect the civil liberties of every citizen

Most ironic that this is the same organization that has members in the ACLU seeking blasphemy laws.

 

[GoPackGo]

If they are allowed to be sued then NO ONE will report something suspicious again.

This isn't just about "terrorism"

 

[Jadow]

I say send em to Club Gitmo

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Jadow
I say send em to Club Gitmo

For what?
Sounds like you are one of the people on that airplane who heard him praising Saddam Hussein.

 

[dahunan]

What if it is proven that they acted like nuts on purpose to intimidate and create fear.. only so they could then sue for cash?

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: dahunan
What if it is proven that they acted like nuts on purpose to intimidate and create fear.. only so they could then sue for cash?

I guess "Imams" don't know about forgiveness!

They do know about suing.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: dahunan
What if it is proven that they acted like nuts on purpose to intimidate and create fear.. only so they could then sue for cash?

I guess "Imams" don't know about forgiveness!

They do know about suing.

Good Call... Bunch of Fakes.. looking for a payout from the US Legal System

 

[magomago]

So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
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As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
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As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

Thank you magomago. I nearly fell over when I read 1prophet say this was intimidation no different than the Mafia. I had no idea the Mafia threatened people with the judicial system.

I'm sure these folk will get what legal remedy they are entitled to.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

speak for yourself mangmango....you don`t speak for all americans...

This is not what the law is for...frivolous lawsuits with no basis for facts......

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

speak for yourself mangmango....you don`t speak for all americans...

This is not what the law is for...frivolous lawsuits with no basis for facts......

Who appointed you as judge over what is frivolous or what the law is for? The court will decide that. You think like a damned fascist. It's because people too often think like you that we need courts.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

speak for yourself mangmango....you don`t speak for all americans...

This is not what the law is for...frivolous lawsuits with no basis for facts......

Are you a lawyer?
Where did you graduate from?

What kind of law did you study?

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

Thank you magomago. I nearly fell over when I read 1prophet say this was intimidation no different than the Mafia. I had no idea the Mafia threatened people with the judicial system.

I'm sure these folk will get what legal remedy they are entitled to.

I was not using the example of mafia because they use the judicial system but the fact that people tend to keep their mouths shut when they feel they are powerless and intimidated, since few have the resources to go up against a team of lawyers.

Corporations use this tactic all the time knowing that the John Doe won't have the resources to fight.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

speak for yourself mangmango....you don`t speak for all americans...

This is not what the law is for...frivolous lawsuits with no basis for facts......

Are you a lawyer?
Where did you graduate from?

What kind of law did you study?

Did you study law? 'Cause if not, whatever point you're trying to raise by asking that question affects your credibility as well.

Personally I think the case is BS. This is about money. And given the circumstances, i doubt these guys will win. It'll be interesting to see who signs on to defends john doe. My guess is this case will be waged by a couple of nonprofit heavyweights.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

why be happy?

You propose only 2 options.

#1 sue
#2 blow things up.

How about #3-DO NOTHING.

Suck it up be men and move on. ANYONE who feels they need to sue because their feelings go hurt deserves nothing. I am quite sure that this is not the first time they have felt ridiculed in their life.

It just so happens that due to the ambulance chasing attorneys in this country and the whole mentality of "if someone looks at you cross-eyed they must profiling you, therefore you have a right to sue" that they now feel they will get some easy money.

These "religious" men are no different than any other scam artist like Benny Hinn or Jimmy Swaggart. Looking for the easy buck. A true man of faith, any faith would turn the other cheek and find more important things to spend their time on, like their followers and those in need in their communities.

See, they will try to sue, and hopefully loose, then they will keep trying until they find a court that will side with them and give them monetary compensation OR worse yet, the airline will settle.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

Thank you magomago. I nearly fell over when I read 1prophet say this was intimidation no different than the Mafia. I had no idea the Mafia threatened people with the judicial system.

I'm sure these folk will get what legal remedy they are entitled to.

I was not using the example of mafia because they use the judicial system but the fact that people tend to keep their mouths shut when they feel they are powerless and intimidated, since few have the resources to go up against a team of lawyers.

Corporations use this tactic all the time knowing that the John Doe won't have the resources to fight.

But the blame for this rests with us because we do nothing about it, not with those who employ this perfectly legal technique. Don't forget it is also a two edged sword. The fear of class actions, etc, keep lots of folk more honest than they might wish to be. I think your characterization was over the top and unfair. Are we going to say that God is like the Mafia because He warns about Hell?

 

[imported_dna]

Several comments said that this is about money, but I doubt they are interested in money.

This seems more like an attempt to root out "islamophobes" and shove multiculturalism down people's throat.

What's next? A mandatory "sensitivity training" for passangers before they are allowed to board?

And Aimster, Meuge knows everything about you *woooooo* :laugh:

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: magomago
So before we totally toss them out - lets pause and look at what dna is bitching about...

Muslims suing someone....

what, is he mad they are working within the legal system that exists? Is he mad that they are using the infrastructure that already exists?

Sounds perfectly American to me. Whether or not their case has merit, the point is look at the means by which they are "fighting back" . Otherwise this biatching is just another lame excuse to complain about Muslims. Do people WANT them to go blow something up instead, so you can continue to emphasize how much "teh ebil" they are?

Please dna...be rational here ~ this is exactly what we Americans (not sure if you are one ) WANT... you can be mad at it, the average American should be happy --> whether or not they agree with the lawsuit.
==========

As for my actual opinion - lawsuit sounds like some B.S. to me, and in that regard I agree with 1prophet. However - let them sue, let them engage in the courts because this is how we do it in America

Thank you magomago. I nearly fell over when I read 1prophet say this was intimidation no different than the Mafia. I had no idea the Mafia threatened people with the judicial system.

I'm sure these folk will get what legal remedy they are entitled to.

I was not using the example of mafia because they use the judicial system but the fact that people tend to keep their mouths shut when they feel they are powerless and intimidated, since few have the resources to go up against a team of lawyers.

Corporations use this tactic all the time knowing that the John Doe won't have the resources to fight.


But the blame for this rests with us because we do nothing about it,

I agree, before 9/11 we wanted quick, easy, and cheap flights therefore security was one of the lowest priorities.

not with those who employ this perfectly legal technique.

True morality can never be legislated, because one can be right legally and still not do right morally, that is why religious leaders of whatever persuasion should always take the higher ground to set an example, and in doing so will not only gain the respect of their own members but those who fear or hate them.

Don't forget it is also a two edged sword. The fear of class actions, etc, keep lots of folk more honest than they might wish to be.

Class action lawsuits are a good thing because it allows the weak to go after the strong when the strong use their legal power to silence or ignore the weak, but now if one sues witnesses if they see something suspicious because they reported it why should future witnesses report anything?

If these individuals stood up and said these guys are terrorists like yelling fire in a theater then they should be sued to the full extent of the law,(since they obviously are no experts on Islam), but if they reported suspicious activity like we have been told to do so to the authorities then it is up to the authorities to make the call and be responsible for the actions they partake.
Here is an example of a Jewish man being taken off a plane for praying, should he have sued the passengers for being ignorant?

I think your characterization was over the top and unfair.

I stand by my characterization since I have seen the same type of actions displayed by the Pat Robertsons, Jerry Fallwells, Jehovah Witnesses, etc, and the religious right using the power of the legal system to silence those that may be against them.

I will not give a free pass to CAIR, The Muslim Brotherhood, The Saudi's, etc. since to me it seems they are trying to silence others just like their own.



Are we going to say that God is like the Mafia because He warns about Hell?

Does not God warn us about Hell because he wishes us to be in Heaven?

 

[Corbett]

Flying Imams. Sounds like a circus act!

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: dahunan
What if it is proven that they acted like nuts on purpose to intimidate and create fear.. only so they could then sue for cash?

I guess "Imams" don't know about forgiveness!

They do know about suing.

Good Call... Bunch of Fakes.. looking for a payout from the US Legal System

Actually it's all part of Jihad. One of the first steps is to get the country you're attacking to change their laws that are more inline with islam. This is just the first step and hopefully people will WAKE UP to what is going on.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Corbett
Flying Imams. Sounds like a circus act!

your education level is showing.

what is it again?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: dahunan
What if it is proven that they acted like nuts on purpose to intimidate and create fear.. only so they could then sue for cash?

I guess "Imams" don't know about forgiveness!

They do know about suing.

Good Call... Bunch of Fakes.. looking for a payout from the US Legal System

Actually it's all part of Jihad. One of the first steps is to get the country you're attacking to change their laws that are more inline with islam. This is just the first step and hopefully people will WAKE UP to what is going on.

So I guess the terrorists in Iraq got it all wrong, no? Here we are thinking they are fighting a Jihad with their suicide bombings and they're supposed to be changing the law. Silly jihadis.