Florida policeman suspended after tasering woman, 61, in the back

[mizzou]

I just thought I'd compare and contrast with this story here.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/...k-handyman-now-please-leave-our-neighborhood/

/Tazing not found.

that's a completely different situation, that guy was just detained. Just because an attorney says "I'm an attorney" I would tell her to fuck off and that I would release him when I'm ready.

If I saw a guy that matched the description of a burglar, I'd detain him for an investigation. If someone came in and tried to remove him in the middle of my investigation, I would tell her she is mistaken and can't do shit about it...and if she really wants to press it, I would charge her with interfering.

Detaining people is not a big deal, it's barely an inconvenience...and NO you are not free to go and also, you are NOT under arrest...lol

I think that situation though...it just on face value appears to be a stop & talk and they didn't want to detain him. If they did and they let her take him away that's F'ed up. Maybe she didn't realize how disabled he was....

Oh..."one of the officers ordered the 64-year-old man to sit on the curb while she put on disposable gloves and prepared to search him." that could have been bad if she had no reason to believe he was involved and he didn't consent to it. and Nope no suspect info " The officers had no description of a possible suspect"

 

[ivwshane]

that's a completely different situation, that guy was just detained. Just because an attorney says "I'm an attorney" I would tell her to fuck off and that I would release him when I'm ready.

If I saw a guy that matched the description of a burglar, I'd detain him for an investigation. If someone came in and tried to remove him in the middle of my investigation, I would tell her she is mistaken and can't do shit about it...and if she really wants to press it, I would charge her with interfering.

Detaining people is not a big deal, it's barely an inconvenience...and NO you are not free to go and also, you are NOT under arrest...lol

I think that situation though...it just on face value appears to be a stop & talk and they didn't want to detain him. If they did and they let her take him away that's F'ed up. Maybe she didn't realize how disabled he was....

Oh..."one of the officers ordered the 64-year-old man to sit on the curb while she put on disposable gloves and prepared to search him." that could have been bad if she had no reason to believe he was involved and he didn't consent to it. and Nope no suspect info " The officers had no description of a possible suspect"

You missed the point. It's not the detaining of a suspected burglar, it's the intervening by a third party, a white women, who, unlike the lady in the original story, was not tased when she interfered.

 

[mizzou]

You missed the point. It's not the detaining of a suspected burglar, it's the intervening by a third party, a white women, who, unlike the lady in the original story, was not tased when she interfered.

ahhhh yeah, the female officer in that one lacked confidence. She wasn't confident she could force the detainment (which makes sense based on the news blurbs) so she didn't force the issue when the atty basically made her show what cards she had.

It seemed the old florida lady was told she was going and the guy wasn't going to back down.

If a cop says "You are under arrest" I expect they will do everything in their legal power to accomplish that, same with "You are not free to go" or "stop". To have a cop say "STOP" and then be like "Ahhh nah j/k no big deal" is a big WTF to me and a...did you just violate someones rights?

 

[dmcowen674]

Another day and video of Police Gestapo in the U.S. and people that support it.

Very sad.

 

[waggy]

that's a completely different situation, that guy was just detained. Just because an attorney says "I'm an attorney" I would tell her to fuck off and that I would release him when I'm ready.

If I saw a guy that matched the description of a burglar, I'd detain him for an investigation. If someone came in and tried to remove him in the middle of my investigation, I would tell her she is mistaken and can't do shit about it...and if she really wants to press it, I would charge her with interfering.

Detaining people is not a big deal, it's barely an inconvenience...and NO you are not free to go and also, you are NOT under arrest...lol

I think that situation though...it just on face value appears to be a stop & talk and they didn't want to detain him. If they did and they let her take him away that's F'ed up. Maybe she didn't realize how disabled he was....

Oh..."one of the officers ordered the 64-year-old man to sit on the curb while she put on disposable gloves and prepared to search him." that could have been bad if she had no reason to believe he was involved and he didn't consent to it. and Nope no suspect info " The officers had no description of a possible suspect"

so you would do that knowing you guys were not only at the wrong address but wrong subdivision?

 

[mizzou]

so you would do that knowing you guys were not only at the wrong address but wrong subdivision?

If you see a suspect related to a crime and it's completely reasonable they could be in that place at that time, why wouldn't you stop them?

I already pointed out several problems with the black officers stop of that homeless man...but in general, if you have reasonable suspicion (which doesn't have to be much) it's OK for a cop to tell you "You are not free to go"

Based on the news info, she at best could have done a voluntary stop. I don't think she could detain him.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Well now, that didn't take long, LOL; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THwug4rrdVQ#t=126

 

[JEDIYoda]

Well now, that didn't take long, LOL; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THwug4rrdVQ#t=126

Excellent video!! I dare say in another neighborhood or city the Police might have arrested that homeowner and charged her with some BS charge like obstructing!

I also dare say that Blackman sitting down was in deep shit!! That Black woman Police person already was foaming at the mouth...figuring she had just caught herself a thief!

That Blackman was due to be taserized or even worse if the white homeowner didn`t ask the other police officer what the address was of the home that was burglarized......

Yep guilty until proven innocent...

 

[ivwshane]

Excellent video!! I dare say in another neighborhood or city the Police might have arrested that homeowner and charged her with some BS charge like obstructing!

I also dare say that Blackman sitting down was in deep shit!! That Black woman Police person already was foaming at the mouth...figuring she had just caught herself a thief!

That Blackman was due to be taserized or even worse if the white homeowner didn`t ask the other police officer what the address was of the home that was burglarized......

Yep guilty until proven innocent...

Uh what?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Excellent video!! I dare say in another neighborhood or city the Police might have arrested that homeowner and charged her with some BS charge like obstructing!

I also dare say that Blackman sitting down was in deep shit!! That Black woman Police person already was foaming at the mouth...figuring she had just caught herself a thief!

That Blackman was due to be taserized or even worse if the white homeowner didn`t ask the other police officer what the address was of the home that was burglarized......

Yep guilty until proven innocent...

English, do you write it?

 

[JEDIYoda]

English, do you write it?

That's the best you can do, I am disappointed in you....
This is no Doctoral thesis...deal with it...you totally know what I am saying --
Bottom line -- If that white lady did not intervene, that black man was in deep trouble!

 

[ivwshane]

That's the best you can do, I am disappointed in you....
This is no Doctoral thesis...deal with it...you totally know what I am saying --
Bottom line -- If that white lady did not intervene, that black man was in deep trouble!

Lol! I guess you didn't see the same video I saw.

 

[The Merg]

Yeah, it seems the female officer didn't really know what she was doing. The officer in the car seemed to agree that there was no reason to detain the subject otherwise I'd assume the officer would have exited his vehicle. Also, when the citizen started to escort him away, while the female officer first said for him to stop, the officer in the cruiser just let them go. If the officer in the car had any inkling the stop was good, he would not have let that happen.

I did find interesting that the citizen that helped the guy is a lawyer and during the interview states that the police "did not have probable cause" to stop the guy. Uh, the cops only need reasonable suspicion to make a stop.

That being said, I'm not sure the female cop had even that. From what we know, just a report of a burglary. No description or time lapse and what might be described as a raggedly dressed subject in a wealthy neighborhood.

- Merg

 

[The Merg]

Lol! I guess you didn't see the same video I saw.

Yeah, while the stop didn't seem great, I didn't see any threat that the guy was going to be beaten, tased, or worse. And looking at the officer, she didn't seem to be someone that could do anything.

- Merg