Florida Parental Notification on Abortion Proposal Still Gets November Vote

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by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
August 18, 2004

Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- A Florida judge has denied a request by abortion advocates to take a proposal off the November ballot that would amend the state constitution to require abortion facilities to notify parents before they can perform an abortion on a teenage girl.

Circuit Judge Jonathan Sjostrom rejected the request, filed by the ACLU and Planned Parenthood of Florida. The pro-abortion groups contend the language of the amendment, approved by the Florida state legislature, was inaccurate and misleading.

The Florida Supreme Court has previously rejected two attempts to allow parents to be involved in the abortion decisions of their daughters. The high court cited the state's privacy clause as prohibiting parents from getting involved.

The amendment will change that privacy provision to allow Florida state lawmakers to approve a parental involvement measure.

"I conclude that the proposed ballot title and summary adequately inform that the amendment expands legislative power and adequately describes the nature and extent of that expansion," Sjostrom wrote in his decision, according to an Associated Press report.

The abortion advocacy groups have already announced they will appeal Sjostrom's decision.

Diana Kasdan, a New York lawyer representing the groups, told AP, "We stand by our position. This is only the first round."

George Waas, an attorney representing the Secretary of State, said the language in the proposal "is clear as a bell."

"Parents need to know when someone performs surgery on their daughters," says Robin Hoffman, President of Florida Right to Life.

"Teens have experienced serious complications and death from legal abortions in Florida. Evidence shows that after parental involvement laws are put in effect, the teenage pregnancy rate goes down, the teenage abortion rate goes down, and the teenage birthrate goes down," Hoffman explained.

"In Florida, if your daughter is under 18, she cannot get a tattoo, get an aspirin at school or go on a school trip without you knowing it," Hoffman told LifeNews.com. "But your underage daughter can get a surgical abortion without you knowing it."
 

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The ballot summary that people will read in voting booths provides that state lawmakers "shall not limit or deny the privacy rights guaranteed to minors" under the U.S. Constitution.

But the summary doesn't explain that the state constitution gives Floridians greater privacy than the federal Constitution and that the proposed change would "substantially limit minors' state constitutional rights of privacy" girls 17 and under, the lawsuit alleges.

There's precedent for this kind of legal challenge. In the fall of 2000, the state Supreme Court removed a constitutional provision that voters had already approved after finding that the ballot language approved by state lawmakers was misleading.

That issue dealt with the death penalty and the ban on cruel and unusual punishment. Religious groups had argued that the ballot language didn't explain the full scope of the amendment, and Florida's high court agreed.

The next year the Legislature approved putting the full text of the constitutional change before voters and in 2002 it was approved.

It seems you changed the point of the battle to fit your needs. The suit was about the wording being misleading. But when you are a rabid maniac who visits lifenews, what can you expect?

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Florida/03FloridaSTAT02081804.htm
 

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I don't live in Florida and I don't have ant teenage daughters so I could not care less.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't live in Florida and I don't have ant teenage daughters so I could not care less.

Gee why didn't I think of that. As we all know, Florida elections and the Florida Supreme Court don't effect anyone but Floridians. ;)
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't live in Florida and I don't have ant teenage daughters so I could not care less.

Gee why didn't I think of that. As we all know, Florida elections and the Florida Supreme Court don't effect anyone but Floridians. ;)
Funny, I didn't notive that this thread was about national elections.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't live in Florida and I don't have ant teenage daughters so I could not care less.

Gee why didn't I think of that. As we all know, Florida elections and the Florida Supreme Court don't effect anyone but Floridians. ;)
Funny, I didn't notive that this thread was about national elections.


You don't think that elections and Supreme Court decisions don't set precedents for other states?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't live in Florida and I don't have ant teenage daughters so I could not care less.

Gee why didn't I think of that. As we all know, Florida elections and the Florida Supreme Court don't effect anyone but Floridians. ;)
Funny, I didn't notive that this thread was about national elections.


You don't think that elections and Supreme Court decisions don't set precedents for other states?
Obviously the Florida SC decisions don't. Tkae the 2000 Elelctions for example.

That said I'll admit that you make a good point. However like I said I din't have any teenage daughters (spared that grief) so I don't care one way or another how this turns out.

BTW I am pro choice although I'd hope the choice would be to keep the baby.
 

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While I don't live in florida and I don't have any children I would hope that if in the future I am to have a daughter a doctor would have the decency to let me know if she was in need of surgery before she was 18...
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: UltraQuiet
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't live in Florida and I don't have ant teenage daughters so I could not care less.

Gee why didn't I think of that. As we all know, Florida elections and the Florida Supreme Court don't effect anyone but Floridians. ;)
Funny, I didn't notive that this thread was about national elections.


You don't think that elections and Supreme Court decisions don't set precedents for other states?
Obviously the Florida SC decisions don't. Tkae the 2000 Elelctions for example.

That said I'll admit that you make a good point. However like I said I din't have any teenage daughters (spared that grief) so I don't care one way or another how this turns out.

BTW I am pro choice although I'd hope the choice would be to keep the baby.

Thats the cowards way out of the issue.. 'I'm pro-choice, but I hope people choose life'.. Yeah, way to make a stand there.
 
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Originally posted by: Crimson

Thats the cowards way out of the issue.. 'I'm pro-choice, but I hope people choose life'.. Yeah, way to make a stand there.

How do you figure that? I don't see the inconsistency in that sentiment. By way of illustration, I don't have any interest in distributing Nazi literature, and I wish nobody else did either, but I feel strongly it should be legal to do so. It seems to me you just don't like or agree with the sentiment - that doesn't mean there's anything cowardly or inconsistent about it.
 

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Crimson

Thats the cowards way out of the issue.. 'I'm pro-choice, but I hope people choose life'.. Yeah, way to make a stand there.

How do you figure that? I don't see the inconsistency in that sentiment. By way of illustration, I don't have any interest in distributing Nazi literature, and I wish nobody else did either, but I feel strongly it should be legal to do so. It seems to me you just don't like or agree with the sentiment - that doesn't mean there's anything cowardly or inconsistent about it.
:thumbsup: Good point.