Florida man, sons charged with selling toxic chemical as a coronavirus cure

[esquared]

See the orange menace's words do have effect.
To morons and moron believers.

Florida man and his sons charged with selling toxic chemical as a coronavirus cure to thousands | CNN

Three months after President Donald Trump suggested ingesting disinfectants as a treatment for coronavirus, a Florida man and his three sons are facing criminal charges for allegedly selling a toxic solution to tens of thousands of people as a cure for Covid-19.

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"Mark Grenon, 62, and his sons, Jonathan, 34, Joseph, 32, and Jordan, 26, all of Bradenton, Florida, supposedly manufactured,
promoted, and sold "Miracle Mineral Solution" (MMS), a chemical solution containing sodium chlorite and water, the criminal
complaint affidavit says.
"The Grenons allegedly sold tens of thousands of bottles of MMS nationwide, including to consumers throughout South Florida. "

I guess these guys figured anyone stupid enough to try injecting bleach for CV may try their cure.

 

[zinfamous]

at least they were doing their part to keep the bars open!

 

[pcgeek11]

Stupid people were around long before Trump. They will be around long after Trump...

 

[zinfamous]

Stupid people were around long before Trump. They will be around long after Trump...

but these people tried to murder people on explicit recommendations from Trump.

that's pretty fucked up.

Humans have gone to prison and/or been executed, many many times over, on less shit than Trump has pulled...in the last year alone. Not even counting the last 3.

 

[jameny5]

Who didn't know this? They prove it everyday on blogs, forums, news apps and social media! That we know.

 

[pcgeek11]

but these people tried to murder people on explicit recommendations from Trump.

that's pretty fucked up.

Humans have gone to prison and/or been executed, many many times over, on less shit than Trump has pulled...in the last year alone. Not even counting the last 3.

I would like to see these "explicit recommendations" from Trump.

Got a link to a quote where he gave an explicit recommendation to consume a sodium chlorite and water solution?

The press conference where he asked about it isn't an explicit recommendation.

(Explicit = stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.)

And as many people you included have stated many times you would have to be stupid to listen to Trump about anything.

NOTE: I am not defending the criminals that were trying to scam people with a toxic chemical. They deserve everything the law can give them.

My comment still stands:
Stupid people were around long before Trump. They will be around long after Trump...

 

[rommelrommel]

but these people tried to murder people on explicit recommendations from Trump.

that's pretty fucked up.

Humans have gone to prison and/or been executed, many many times over, on less shit than Trump has pulled...in the last year alone. Not even counting the last 3.

I‘m not sure you can blame Trump for this snake oil, it’s been around since 2006 or so.

Miracle Mineral Supplement

Miracle Mineral Supplement, often referred to as Miracle Mineral Solution or MMS, is the name given by its promoter, former Scientologist[1] and sometime Colonel Sanders lookalike Jim Humble (1932–2023),[2][3] to an aqueous solution of 28% sodium chlorite (NaClO2), a toxic industrial...

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[Jhhnn]

I‘m not sure you can blame Trump for this snake oil, it’s been around since 2006 or so.

Miracle Mineral Supplement

Miracle Mineral Supplement, often referred to as Miracle Mineral Solution or MMS, is the name given by its promoter, former Scientologist[1] and sometime Colonel Sanders lookalike Jim Humble (1932–2023),[2][3] to an aqueous solution of 28% sodium chlorite (NaClO2), a toxic industrial...

rationalwiki.org

True, although I'm confident that Trump's comments boosted sales... Why are there no UV light emitting dildos? The market potential is yuge...

 

[darkswordsman17]

but these people tried to murder people on explicit recommendations from Trump.

that's pretty fucked up.

Humans have gone to prison and/or been executed, many many times over, on less shit than Trump has pulled...in the last year alone. Not even counting the last 3.

You read that post wrong. It was a confessional.

 

[MtnMan]

They also wrapped it in religion, a directly ploy to those that already show the inability to think.

 

[BUTCH1]

I would like to see these "explicit recommendations" from Trump.

Got a link to a quote where he gave an explicit recommendation to consume a sodium chlorite and water solution?

The press conference where he asked about it isn't an explicit recommendation.

(Explicit = stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.)

And as many people you included have stated many times you would have to be stupid to listen to Trump about anything.

NOTE: I am not defending the criminals that were trying to scam people with a toxic chemical. They deserve everything the law can give them.

My comment still stands:
Stupid people were around long before Trump. They will be around long after Trump...

This is the issue, when the POTUS holds a nationally televised news conference in which he suggests ingesting/injecting disinfectants as a means to treat COVID 19 some "stupid" people will see it and take it seriously. Yea, they were dumb before Trump, yea, Trump dispenses dumb ideas like a retarded Pez dispenser.

 

[pcgeek11]

This is the issue, when the POTUS holds a nationally televised news conference in which he suggests ingesting/injecting disinfectants as a means to treat COVID 19 some "stupid" people will see it and take it seriously. Yea, they were dumb before Trump, yea, Trump dispenses dumb ideas like a retarded Pez dispenser.

Then there is no argument or counter point. You basically restated what I said.

Trump made no explicit recommendation of anything. He asked a question in a press conference.

And stupid people existed long before Trump and will long after Trump.

 

[sportage]

So if they got the idea from Donald, which they probably did, then Donald must pardon them, which he probably will.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Then there is no argument or counter point. You basically restated what I said.

Trump made no explicit recommendation of anything. He asked a question in a press conference.

And stupid people existed long before Trump and will long after Trump.

a nationally televised press conference in the midst of a pandemic is not the time to discuss hypothetical treatments. of course that falls under the cateogry of "having/taking responsibility", which trump admitted he does not.

 

[pcgeek11]

a nationally televised press conference in the midst of a pandemic is not the time to discuss hypothetical treatments. of course that falls under the cateogry of "having/taking responsibility", which trump admitted he does not.

Regardless of what you want to call it or interpret it. It doesn't meet the definition of an "explicit recommendation" as it was called by Zin...

 

[zinfamous]

Regardless of what you want to call it or interpret it. It doesn't meet the definition of an "explicit recommendation" as it was called by Zin...

you are welcome to your opinion of what you saw.

 

[Jhhnn]

Then there is no argument or counter point. You basically restated what I said.

Trump made no explicit recommendation of anything. He asked a question in a press conference.

And stupid people existed long before Trump and will long after Trump.

Yeh, but he really brings it out in some people, huh?

 

[thilanliyan]

Then there is no argument or counter point. You basically restated what I said.

Trump made no explicit recommendation of anything. He asked a question in a press conference.

And stupid people existed long before Trump and will long after Trump.

Right right, and since Trump never tweeted out explicitly:
"please pay Stormy off because I don't want my election odds to be screwed"
OR
"I'd like you to investigate Biden to make him look bad and help my election chances...or you're not getting that military aid"
OR
"I'm firing you because I don't want you investigating me" (actually he kinda did say this on national television lol)

He's totally innocent!!! He must be because he never explicitly said those things right?

It's always amusing that people in the party of personal responsibility never want to take any personal responsibility.

 

[pcgeek11]

Right right, and since Trump never tweeted out explicitly:
"please pay Stormy off because I don't want my election odds to be screwed"
OR
"I'd like you to investigate Biden to make him look bad and help my election chances...or you're not getting that military aid"
OR
"I'm firing you because I don't want you investigating me" (actually he kinda did say this on national television lol)

He's totally innocent!!! He must be because he never explicitly said those things right?

It's always amusing that people in the party of personal responsibility never want to take any personal responsibility.

Oh get bent.

The claim was made that he did explicitly recommend using these chemicals. Which was not true.

but these people tried to murder people on explicit recommendations from Trump.

that's pretty fucked up.

Humans have gone to prison and/or been executed, many many times over, on less shit than Trump has pulled...in the last year alone. Not even counting the last 3.

Sorry you have issues with the truth.

It isn't about your little straw man arguments.

Thanks for proving my before and after theory.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Oh get bent.

The claim was main that he did explicitly recommend using these chemicals. Which was not true.




Sorry you have issues with the truth.

It isn't about your little straw man arguments.

Thanks for proving my before and after theory.

This post made me lol, thanks for that. How's your vote for alternative facts working out, oh bearer of truth, lol.

The way you emotionally responded to this was pretty good.

Right right, and since Trump never tweeted out explicitly:
"please pay Stormy off because I don't want my election odds to be screwed"
OR
"I'd like you to investigate Biden to make him look bad and help my election chances...or you're not getting that military aid"
OR
"I'm firing you because I don't want you investigating me" (actually he kinda did say this on national television lol)

He's totally innocent!!! He must be because he never explicitly said those things right?

It's always amusing that people in the party of personal responsibility never want to take any personal responsibility.

This is your dance routine, and you're response was the typical conservative "no, fuck YOUR feels" emotionally charged response.

But, by all means, carry on with your lack of introspection and projection. It's always a solid reminder of how honest your are with your requirements of others.

 

[pcgeek11]

This post made me lol, thanks for that. How's your vote for alternative facts working out, oh bearer of truth, lol.

The way you emotionally responded to this was pretty good.



This is your dance routine, and you're response was the typical conservative "no, fuck YOUR feels" emotionally charged response.

But, by all means, carry on with your lack of introspection and projection. It's always a solid reminder of how honest your are with your requirements of others.

And the peanut gallery shows up.

Do you have a quote where Trump explicitly recommended the use of these chemicals as proclaimed by Zin?

Of course you don't.

 

[HomerJS]

Then there is no argument or counter point. You basically restated what I said.

Trump made no explicit recommendation of anything. He asked a question in a press conference.

And stupid people existed long before Trump and will long after Trump.

Almost everyone who heard the presser knew that's what Trump did

explicit recommendation

explicit

clearly expressed

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Recommendation

a suggestion or proposal as to the best course of action, especially one put forward by an authoritative body.

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What Trump said was clearly understood by almost everyone who heard it.

In fact some very smart people representing companies that produce disinfectants and government agencies had to issue statements warning people not to do what Trump suggested.

 

[pcgeek11]

Almost everyone who heard the presser knew that's what Trump did

explicit recommendation

explicit

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Recommendation

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What Trump said was clearly understood by almost everyone who heard it.

In fact some very smart people representing companies that produce disinfectants and government agencies had to issue statements warning people not to do what Trump suggested.

Horse poop as usual.

Definition of explicit

1a : fully revealed or expressed without vagueness, implication, or ambiguity : leaving no question as to meaning or intent.

Trump asked a question at a press conference. A question isn't explicit an recommendation.

 

[HomerJS]

Horse poop as usual.

Definition of explicit

1a : fully revealed or expressed without vagueness, implication, or ambiguity : leaving no question as to meaning or intent.

Trump asked a question at a press conference. A question isn't explicit an recommendation.

Words from a POTUS carry weight. They matter. Those words can move markets, start wars.

If that's not what happened why did the CDC, FDA and companies that manufacture disinfectants need to issue statements warning people don't do what Trump suggested? A lot of smart people disagree with you.

As President qualifying statements with "some people are saying" does not absolve him from responsibility.

 

[pcgeek11]

Words from a POTUS carry weight. They matter. Those words can move markets, start wars.

If that's not what happened why did the CDC, FDA and companies that manufacture disinfectants need to issue statements warning people don't do what Trump suggested? A lot of smart people disagree with you.

As President qualifying statements with "some people are saying" does not absolve him from responsibility.

Because there are stupid people everywhere. As I have stated before Stupid people existed before Trump and will long after Trump.

" why did the CDC, FDA and companies that manufacture disinfectants need to issue statements warning people don't do what Trump suggested?"

For the very same reason that California has to have "May Cause Cancer" warning on everything, Plastic bags have warnings that they could suffocate you, Gasoline is flammable labels, Clorox is poison labels, people eat Tide Pods ................ the list is nearly infinite. If you try hard enough you could claim Trump is responsible for that stuff too.

The same reason I have to explain this to you.

The CDC, FDA and companies are just covering their collective rear ends because stupid people do stupid things.

Hold my beer and watch this. Go watch you tube videos.