Florida about to allow unlicensed untrained conceal carry.

HomerJS

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Anyone recall one of the worse mass shootings Aurora CA? Let’s say there were 5 more untrained armed people. Now we have 6 people shooting in a dark movie theater. Likely outcome? More people shot and killed.

The hit rate for trained police is around 35%. My guess it’s less then half that for untrained.



Police arrive at the shooting. Who is the bad guy? Or will they just shoot the first black person they find just like this incident?



This is what Republicans have brought to this country. Insanity, evil, chaos and turning this country into a dystopian theocratic dictatorship.


 
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Jaskalas

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This is what Republicans have brought to this country. Insanity, evil, chaos and turning this country into a dystopian theocratic dictatorship.

I don't think dictatorships have armed populations.
So their agenda will eventually require disarming people.
 
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IronWing

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Arizona has had open carry, no training, no permit required for adults since territorial days. Towns like Tombstone restricted open carry early on but under current state law, cities no longer have the ability to restrict carry.
 

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Arm the human moat around Mar A Lago!!!! Nothing bad will happen 🤪
Being part of an armed human moat is a great ambition in life, and will enhance any resume, as well as impressing everyone in your family. I hope they all post pictures and videos again.
 

Zorba

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Anyone recall one of the worse mass shootings Aurora CA? Let’s say there were 5 more untrained armed people. Now we have 6 people shooting in a dark movie theater. Likely outcome? More people shot and killed.

The hit rate for trained police is around 35%. My guess it’s less then half that for untrained.



Police arrive at the shooting. Who is the bad guy? Or will they just shoot the first black person they find just like this incident?



This is what Republicans have brought to this country. Insanity, evil, chaos and turning this country into a dystopian theocratic dictatorship.


I have a hypothesis that push for open carry is directly related to the fact the government hasn't confronted White People with guns since Waco.

A couple years ago, as part of my duties on my HOA, I had tell an asshole who was open carrying that he couldn't put his fence on neighborhood property. You shouldn't have a gun in middle of a conversation in a functioning society.
 

allisolm

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"Florida about to allow unlicensed untrained open carry."

This is NOT unlicensed untrained open carry. Much worse - it's unlicensed untrained CONCEALED carry.

Link in the OP which says right there in the post

"The legislation does not allow for open carry,"

 
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Zorba

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I don't think dictatorships have armed populations.
So their agenda will eventually require disarming people.
All these militia types are just useful idiots like the SA. And just like the SA, once the fascists take over there will be no more use for them and they'll be dealt with.
 
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Pens1566

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"Florida about to allow unlicensed untrained open carry."

This is NOT unlicensed untrained open carry. Much worse - it's unlicensed untrained CONCEALED carry.

Link in the OP which says right there in the post

"The legislation does not allow for open carry,"


This isn't unique to FL. WV removed the licensing requirement for CC a few years ago.
 

MtnMan

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I carry concealed (permitted, trained, background checks, etc.) and I know many who also carry concealed.

I have encountered a few that open carry (in my state no training to OC), and it seems they are more concerned about the size of their dick than anything else.
 
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Pens1566

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I carry concealed (trained, background checks, etc.) and I know many who also carry concealed.

I have encountered a few that open carry (in my state no training to OC), and it seems they are more concerned about the size of their dick than anything else.

Yeah, it always weirds me out when I see some Jethro in Walmart/etc with a "Boebert special" tacti-cool setup strapped on their hip.
 

Puffnstuff

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I'll stay away from ghettomart during the hours of darkness. :p Actually I'm all for it if they can enforce existing laws that prevent criminals from having one.
 

alien42

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I don't see a downside.

You're probably being sarcastic, but just in case you aren't. When this passed in GA, it resulted in at least 3 music festivals being cancelled which will result in 10s of millions of dollars being sucked out of our economy. Also, it literally defunded sheriff's departments due to the loss of revenue from licenses.
 

sdifox

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You're probably being sarcastic, but just in case you aren't. When this passed in GA, it resulted in at least 3 music festivals being cancelled which will result in 10s of millions of dollars being sucked out of our economy. Also, it literally defunded sheriff's departments due to the loss of revenue from licenses.


Not sarcastic actually. i want Floridians to suffer the consequences. It's high time they pay up.
 
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MtnMan

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I'll stay away from ghettomart during the hours of darkness. :p Actually I'm all for it if they can enforce existing laws that prevent criminals from having one.
Locally, every arrest that hits the news, most often drug related, lists all the charges they face. A very common charge is carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, and the #1 is being armed and a felon, along with dealing drugs, and open warrants.
 

balloonshark

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So sorry for WV.
Yep. I bought a rifle and pistol online and they were shipped to my FFL dealer (federal firearms license). I fill out one page of info, he calls the FBI while I'm standing there and I walk out with a gun. I can conceal carry the pistol on my person or in a car. I didn't get any paperwork and I didn't need to do any training. The last time I bought a pistol in 1999 or 2000 there was a waiting period which is a good idea.
 

akugami

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Florida has a long history of sound reasoning and balanced responses. What could possibly go wrong?

Florida is the last bastion of sound reasoning. To highlight their intellectual prowess, a new title of Florida Man was given to the shining examples of Florida's best.

You see any Pennsylvania Man or California Man titles? No! Only Florida Man! Only the best!
 

Paratus

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Florida is the last bastion of sound reasoning. To highlight their intellectual prowess, a new title of Florida Man was given to the shining examples of Florida's best.

You see any Pennsylvania Man or California Man titles? No! Only Florida Man! Only the best!
Just for fun you can play the Florida Man (or Woman) game

Just google Florida Man or Woman and then your birth month and day or whatever date you want and see what the top story is.

Here’s mine.
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ivwshane

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They will be the new brown shirts and they’ll continue to be useful idiots. There isn’t some other group of enforcers hiding in the shadows who the fascist leaders will turn to when they gain power. To think there is would be conspiratorial beyond what the right is capable of.

I don't think dictatorships have armed populations.
So their agenda will eventually require disarming people.
All these militia types are just useful idiots like the SA. And just like the SA, once the fascists take over there will be no more use for them and they'll be dealt with.
 

Zorba

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They will be the new brown shirts and they’ll continue to be useful idiots. There isn’t some other group of enforcers hiding in the shadows who the fascist leaders will turn to when they gain power. To think there is would be conspiratorial beyond what the right is capable of.
When they seize power, they'd have the police and the military. You don't need a bunch of whackos that have their own ideas of what "freedom" is when you control all the normal power enforcers. One of the militias might turn into something like the SS, but I doubt Dictator Desantious is actually going put up with all sovereign citizen crazies when they are no longer useful.

BTW: The brown shirts where the SA and they will killed by Hilter after he gained power, which is exactly what I was referring to.
 
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