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Extend the life of your tires and save gas by inflating your tires to the PSI as listed on your tire's sidewall. (Commonly 44 or 51 PSI) Subtract 10PSI from the number listed on sidewall for the rear tires of an unloaded pickup

For those who are worried their tires could burst from more pressure, you can be rest assured that tires are very strong and a good tire won't burst until inflated to between 400-600psi with the rim itself being the point of failure. PSI is based upon a COLD tire.
This is dangerous and inaccurate advice and should be removed. It does not belong in a sig as following this advice is a safety concern.

Fleabag has already had ample time to discuss this in threads in the appropriate forums. PFI is not the forum to discuss tire pressures. In those other discussions in other forums, there has been more than enough evidence presented by experts (fleabag is not) which contradicts what fleabag is promoting. As this thread is turning into another argument over that, this thread is locked. -Anandtech Moderator DrPizza
 
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This is complete nonsense. Deleting my signature because you disagree with it would mean that we should delete everyone's signature because there are people who disagree with it.

My advice is NOT a safety concern and it is NOT inaccurate. I could claim "we need to remove all signatures that remove reference to AMD and Intel because they could incorrectly cause someone financial hardship for buying the wrong product".
 
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This is complete nonsense. Deleting my signature because you disagree with it would mean that we should delete everyone's signature because there are people who disagree with it.

My advice is NOT a safety concern and it is NOT inaccurate. I could claim "we need to remove all signatures that remove reference to AMD and Intel because they could incorrectly cause someone financial hardship for buying the wrong product".
Nobody died because they chose AMD over Intel.
 
If you delete fleabag's sig then all of his posts giving advice should be deleted. Wouldn't it be easier to delete fleabag?

All of those posts are surrounded by sound advice which helps insulate the unsuspecting reader from harm.
 
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I really appreciate you taking the time to find those links in attempting to disprove what I'm saying but I'm going to have to disprove them as they're simply wrong.

First I'm going to attack the one where the woman rolled over her suv..

"A woman seven months pregnant was driving and received minor injuries in a rollover crash on I-29 near the Baltic exit. The South Dakota Highway Patrol says the tires on the woman's van were over-inflated by 11 to 15 pounds. Trooper Christopher Halm says,"

This is a perfect example of "correlation does not equal causation". If one gets into an accident when they are going 65mph in an area with a speed limit of 55mph, the highway patrol will always say that it was a speed induced crash even if speed wasn't a factor. There is absolutely no proof that she rolled over because the tires were more inflated than what the manufacturer recommended.

As for the popular mechanics article, I've lost TOTAL RESPECT for popular mechanics after they posted that dubious article stating that putting that "golf ball film" or what ever company they were promoting could provide substantial MPG gains. They obviously didn't control for variables and for that I don't believe their article qualifies AT ALL.
 
If you delete fleabag's sig then all of his posts giving advice should be deleted. Wouldn't it be easier to delete fleabag?

From reading his posts, my conclusion is that he's a troll. He refuses to cite sources when asked and all of his posts that I've seen have been argumentative.
 
From reading his posts, my conclusion is that he's a troll. He refuses to cite sources when asked and all of his posts that I've seen have been argumentative.

Ekrub is not a troll.....the OP is just plain wrong concerning over inflated tires...

here are some facts about over inflated tires....
•An over-inflated tire puts less tread on the road and increases wear on the center of the tread. A tire is designed to run with the vehicle's weight spread evenly across the width of the tire.

The fact is that if you are inflating your tires to the manufacturers recommended pressure.....it will maximize tire performance, increase fuel economy.

YES-- there are those who claim that increasing tire pressure will increase gas mileage, but they conveniently don`t tell you that you also increase tread wear thus causing your tires to not wear evenly thus replacing tires more frequently!

Keep your tires properly inflated. Under-inflated tires will cause more drag and reduce gas mileage. Over-inflated tires will wear faster.....
 
Ekrub is not a troll.....the OP is just plain wrong concerning over inflated tires...

here are some facts about over inflated tires....
•An over-inflated tire puts less tread on the road and increases wear on the center of the tread. A tire is designed to run with the vehicle's weight spread evenly across the width of the tire.

The fact is that if you are inflating your tires to the manufacturers recommended pressure.....it will maximize tire performance, increase fuel economy.

YES-- there are those who claim that increasing tire pressure will increase gas mileage, but they conveniently don`t tell you that you also increase tread wear thus causing your tires to not wear evenly thus replacing tires more frequently!

Keep your tires properly inflated. Under-inflated tires will cause more drag and reduce gas mileage. Over-inflated tires will wear faster.....

Overinflated and inflated to sidewall aren't the same! The gas door on many Volvos will say something like 32psi. If you look at just that number, with YOUR logic, you'd be getting maximum mileage! However, if you look right below it, it mentions 38psi.... So how could they possibly be getting "max mileage" at 32psi when they've got a suggestion right below it stating 38psi?? You can't make an assumption that people who inflate their tires higher than the manufacturer's suggestion aren't getting good, even tread wear. I repeated multiple times that I had yet to see a single vehicle get less than perfectly even tread wear in the front tires when inflated to sidewall. What I HAVE seen is very uneven tread wear when inflated to manufacturer's recommendations. In fact, one such truck had wear down the sides on the front tires and wear down the middle on the rear tires when inflated to such specifications!!!

I completely agree that it's not a good idea to drive on tires that aren't wearing evenly, down the center or down the sides. But if we can agree that good, even tread wear is what we all desire and that this can be achieved by inflating to the sidewall, the what is so wrong with doing so?

Manufacturer's agree that if you're going to do high-speed cornering and driving that you should add like 5psi, so again the idea that the manufacturer's PSI recommendation is most optimal for MPG is wrong. It may be optimal for the balance of comfort, sound, and mpg but is not optimal for best MPG. I don't know if because where I live we have hilly terrain or what, but all the vehicles with the tires inflated to manufacturer's recommendations ALWAYS, I mean ALWAYS, 100% guaranteed to wear down the sides while those inflated to the sides don't, or almost don't. Hey, I'll admit, I take corners really quickly, like a 25mph curve at 40mph, and so do a lot of people. So if we're going to be driving like we're racing and we know that higher inflation pressures improve handing, then that means it's most desirable to inflate tires to higher pressures than what the door jamb says...
 
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