Flashing dvd firmware/RPC-1

John

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RPC-1 = region free*

*allows you to watch movies from all over the world and not lock the DVDROM after 5 or so changes of the region code.

 

Miramonti

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"Region" meaning american or european etc.? Why would a dvd drive manufacturer care which region a movie is from and thus lock the drive?
 

ucvb6

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once you flash it, do you ever have ot flash it again? say if you out the DVD Rom drive into another computer?

thanks
 

ucvb6

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thanks for the link jjsole,

it says that the region free setting is stored on the drive itself(like a BIOS), so i'am assuming that it will remain region free when i transfer it to another computer.

thanks again

*edit* i heard that the DVD distributors(or was it the movie companies, one of them) want the region lock. i cant remember why though.
 

MulLa

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Yes you are right. Flashing a DVDROM's BIOS is no different to flashing your motherboard BIOS you do it once and it stays no matter where you put that piece of hardware.
 

dkozloski

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You may shoot yourself in the foot on this one. If you set your firmware so there is no region specified you will not be able to view the new releases. There are several region locks that all have to agree for you to be able to view most new DVD's. The operating system has a region lock, the DVD software has a region lock, the DVD player firmware has a region lock and the DVD disc has a region lock. They must all agree. There are some software workarounds for some of these but for some you are a dead duck. Look out!
 

Scott1

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dkozloski, you don't know what you're talking about.

The only thing you said that is even remotely clueful is that there are multiple region locks. The rest is just BS.

Unless you've removed the region locks, your DVD drive, decoder card (or decoder chipset on your video card), and your DVD player SW are the only things that have them. The region locks operate indepentantly of each other, in fact, your DVD drive has no way of knowing if your player or decoder is region locked or not, or to what region it's set. All the region code on the DVD does is say what region the DVD is ment for, the disc has no way of knowing weather your equiptment is region locked or region free. If your equiptment is region free, the region code on the DVD doesn't mean a thing. If even one part of your equiptment is region locked (ex. drive and decoder are rigion free, but player is region locked), you'll be limited to DVDs that region coded for the region your equiptment is set for.

There were rumors of a new DVD regioning sceme where a DVD could be set not to play in a region free player, but those turned out to be nothing but conjecture. The only way they could pull that off is if the player honered the "don't play me in region free equiptment" bit, and players that are region free are not likly to honer that bit. Even if your player does, the sceme can be defeated by simply chaging it's region code, or by modifying it to ignore that bit.
 

dkozloski

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Your operating system also has a region lock that is spelled out in the system registry. I have a Pioneer 303F(meaning region Free) that will play only the very oldest DVD's. You can see some intro's but all you get for the feature is a black screen. DVDGenie is no help. Have a look at the Digital Digest web site before you are so quick to start popping off.
 

Scott1

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Put as nicely as I feel is possable:

I don't know what OS you're using, but in Windows, the registry is used by your OS, drivers and apps. Just because it's in the registry doesn't always mean it's used by the OS. That region code that you found in your resgistry is likly used by your DVD player SW.

A bit of friendly advice; you might want to take your own advice, and you might also want to fully read my post before you become so quick to reply next time. As I said before, even though your drive is region free, your decoder and play must also be region free, or you'll still be limited to the region that your region locked componits are set for.

FYI, there is no way you could have a Pioneer 303F, as Pioneer never made that model of DVD-ROM drive. Here's thier current drives, and thier older drives. Did you mean 303S, or did you flash it with a modified firmware?

Also, I have a Pioneer 303S, it was RPC1 by default. Even thou it's region free, the drive still says it's a 303:

Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
Vendor: PIONEER Model: DVD-ROM DVD-303 Rev: 1.06
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02

If it's region locked, you'll see an R, after it's ID, to indicate that it's RPC2.

Finally, if you have a Pioneer 303s, make sure you didn't pull the RPC jumper. If you did, your drive is now RPC2, and DVDGenie's site says that DVDGenie won't work if you have a region locked drive.
 

dkozloski

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My Pioneer 303S came with the jumper pulled and booted as a 303R as you have stated. After reflashing the firmware it now boots as a 303F and tests to be region free. Windows 98 and above has a region lock or setting that can only be changed one time. In order to play new DVD's. the DVD tests to see if the player firmware, the decoder (hardware or software) region lock, the operating system setting and the DVD region lock all agree. Evidently my player firmware, even though the little interrogation routines indicate it is region free does not give a correct response and cannot be reflashed so it is now junk.