Flash mob violence on the rise

[Abwx]

Groups of thugs can easily organise using mobile messenger apps (think it was BBM in the UK) and the police end up just reacting to the problem after the main troublemakers have left the area.

But what about when the thugs are in full control of all the areas,
including the mediatic areas ?...

The looting, thievery and lawlessness that Cameron so condemns is but the reflection at the street level of British society of what is taking place on a much greater scale at the upper echelons of government and the economy.

Despite the appearance of pinstripe suits and well-groomed accents, we can, if we are honest, see decades of looting and thievery of economic and financial resources by corporate elites aided and abetted by Labour and Conservative governments. The taxpayer bailout of corrupt banks initiated by Labour PM Gordon Brown and now overseen by Cameron, paid for in large part by austerity in public spending cuts, is but the latest manifestation of official robbing of the majority to swell the already outrageous wealth of the ruling elite class.


So when Cameron and his political cronies fulminate about pockets of sickness, looting, criminality, lawlessness, and the need for “consequences for actions” – his words and exhortations are so richly ironic and benighted.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25974

 

[Nemesis 1]

But what about when the thugs are in full control of all the areas,
including the mediatic areas ?...



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25974

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LH72BTAYME&feature=related

 

[spidey07]

More. Seems almost daily now.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/1...wing-unprovoked-attack-by-philadelphia-teens/

 

[Schadenfroh]

This is getting out of hand (from Spidy's link):

A new video has surfaced showing a group of teen girls attacking a worker outside City Hall in Philadelphia
...
The video, shot in May, shows a woman being attacked in broad daylight. The video shows the woman walking outside City Hall when a pack of teenage girls appears from behind her and slams her into the ground, hitting her repeatedly.
The woman said the attack was relentless.

During broad daylight in front of city hall, no less...

Not sure how to stop them, short of placing restrictions on teenagers (forcing them to be escorted by a person 21 years or older in public). Maybe national guard and martial law? Surely the cost is too high...

 

[spidey07]

This is getting out of hand (from Spidy's link):


During broad daylight in front of city hall, no less...

Not sure how to stop them, short of placing restrictions on teenagers (forcing them to be escorted by a person 21 years or older in public). Maybe national guard and martial law? Surely the cost is too high...

It's only going to stop when citizens defend themselves with deadly force.

They're emboldened.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Surely the cost is too high...

What's the alternative? Come up with programs that deal with these kids? P&N fingermen have already dismissed social programs.

But, if these P&N puppets are OK with skulls getting cracked - but, its more expensive than rehabilitating and guiding the youth - it continues to speak volumes on what they want to see done to urban youth.

 

[bfdd]

What's the alternative? Come up with programs that deal with these kids? P&N fingermen have already dismissed social programs.

But, if these P&N puppets are OK with skulls getting cracked - but, its more expensive than rehabilitating and guiding the youth - it continues to speak volumes on what they want to see done to urban youth.

Because throwing money at the problem HAS FAILED CONSTANTLY. Time and time again we have 50 social programs fail and waste money for every one that does a decent job, not a great job, a decent job. TBH I blame assholes like you who want to keep pushing current social programs which were mostly instilled and created by intolerant fucks to keep certain peoples out of sight and out of mind. What you think the projects were to give people homes? No they were to make people live in a certain area. What you think welfare was to help people because people are nice? No it was to keep people down in a certain area because you take away their NEED to work. These things are all asinine. You can only help those who wish to be helped, those who don't wish to help themselves should probably just choke and die.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Because throwing money at the problem HAS FAILED CONSTANTLY. Time and time again we have 50 social programs fail and waste money for every one that does a decent job, not a great job, a decent job. TBH I blame assholes like you who want to keep pushing current social programs which were mostly instilled and created by intolerant fucks to keep certain peoples out of sight and out of mind. What you think the projects were to give people homes? No they were to make people live in a certain area. What you think welfare was to help people because people are nice? No it was to keep people down in a certain area because you take away their NEED to work. These things are all asinine. You can only help those who wish to be helped, those who don't wish to help themselves should probably just choke and die.

Here are the social programs that have worked. Would you be able to provide a list of the ones that do not?

EARLY CHILDHOOD
Top Tier Nurse-Family Partnership (A nurse home visitation program for low-income, pregnant women): Randomized controlled trials show major impact on life outcomes of the mothers and their children.
Near Top Tier Triple P System (A system of parenting programs for families with children age 0-8): Randomized controlled trial of the full system as implemented county-wide shows sizable reductions in child maltreatment and foster care placements.
Abecedarian Project (High-quality child care/preschool for children from disadvantaged backgrounds): Randomized controlled trial shows major impact on educational and life outcomes; we note, however, that this was a demonstration project, and it is not yet known if the results can be replicated on a broader scale in typical classroom settings.
Perry Preschool Project (High-quality preschool for children from disadvantaged backgrounds): Randomized controlled trial shows major impact on educational and life outcomes; we note, however, that this was a demonstration project, and it is not yet known if the results can be replicated on a broader scale in typical classroom settings.
Review of the Evidence: Do Early Childhood Intervention Programs Really Work?

EDUCATION (K-12)
Top TierCareer Academies (Small learning communities in low-income high schools, offering academic and career/technical courses as well as workplace opportunities): Randomized controlled trial shows a sizable positive impact on earnings of participants eight years after their scheduled high school graduation.
Top Tier Success for All (A school-wide reform program, primarily for high-poverty elementary schools, with a strong emphasis on reading instruction): Randomized controlled trial shows positive impact in raising school-wide reading achievement in grades K-2.
Near Top Tier First Grade Classroom Prevention Program (Program that combines a classroom management strategy – the Good Behavior Game – with an enhanced academic curriculum): Randomized controlled trial shows a sizable reduction in substance use, and sizable increases in high school graduation and college enrollment rates.
Near Top Tier Promise Academy Charter Middle School (A charter middle school in New York City, serving mainly low-income, minority students): Randomized controlled trial shows a sizeable increase in math and English language arts achievement over a three year period.
Check and Connect (Dropout prevention program for high school students with learning, emotional, and/or behavioral disabilities): Randomized controlled trials show a sizable decrease in students’ dropout rates, and increase in attendance and academic credits earned.
SMART – Start Making a Reader Today (Volunteer reading tutoring program for at-risk readers in early elementary school): Randomized controlled trial shows this low-cost intervention has sizable positive impact on students’ reading ability.
Tutoring with the Lindamood Phonemic Sequencing reading curriculum (An intervention for at-risk readers in grades K-2): Randomized controlled trial shows sizable positive impacts on reading ability for students with poor phonological processing (e.g., letter naming, and awareness of the sounds within words).

YOUTH DEVELOPMENT
Top Tier Carrera Adolescent Pregnancy Prevention Program (A comprehensive, year-round youth development program for economically disadvantaged teens): Multi-site randomized controlled trial shows sizable reductions in teen pregnancy and births, and increases in high school graduation and college enrollment.
Big Brothers Big Sisters (Volunteer mentoring program for disadvantaged youth, ages 6-18): Randomized controlled trial shows sizable decrease in youths’ drug and alcohol use and violent behavior.

CRIME/VIOLENCE PREVENTION
Top Tier Multidimensional Treatment Foster Care(A foster care intervention for severely delinquent youths): Randomized controlled trials show sizable reductions in youths’ criminal activity.
Amity Prison Therapeutic Community (Provides counseling/decision-making skills to inmates with drug problems, to prepare them for re-entry into the community): Randomized controlled trial shows reduction in reincarceration rate, and increase in average time to reincarceration.
Multisystemic Therapy for Juvenile Offenders (A treatment targeting multiple factors linked to anti-social juvenile behavior): Randomized controlled trials show sizable decrease in criminal behavior by juvenile offenders, but effectiveness may depend critically (i) on close adherence to the intervention’s key features and (ii) population/setting in which it is implemented.

HEALTH CARE FINANCING AND DELIVERY
Top Tier Transitional Care Model (A nurse-led hospital discharge and home follow-up program for chronically ill older adults): Randomized controlled trials show major reductions in rehospitalizations and health care costs.

SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION AND TREATMENT
Top Tier LifeSkills Training (Middle school substance abuse prevention curriculum): Randomized controlled trials show sizable decrease in students’ substance abuse.
Top Tier Staying Free (A low-cost smoking cessation program for hospitalized smokers who are willing to make a quit attempt): Randomized controlled trials show sizable increase in confirmed abstinence from smoking one year after patient discharge from the hospital.

MENTAL HEALTH
Group Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (Depression prevention program for youth at elevated risk of serious depression): Randomized controlled trials show sizable effect in preventing clinical depression.

 

[bfdd]

Most of the shit you're posting are things THE PARENTS SHOULD BE FUCKING DOING. You're nothing but a fucking communist, wanting the state to raise children. That shit is stupid. If you are unfit to raise a child, then you shouldn't have children. If you are incapable of keeping your fucking pants on and keep pumping out kids, we need to do something about that.

I like a lot of these programs, my issue isn't entirely with the program. Some of them are good, especially those that go on to teach the people to care for themselves or their own families. Making them NEED to come to the state sponsored thing is wrong and creates fucked up people who have no desire to do things on their own, generations of them who just need government lead. Fucking communists.

 

[Macamus Prime]

You're nothing but a fucking communist, wanting the state to raise children. That shit is stupid.

And, if no one takes care of these kids, you get these mobs.

Oh, wait - you want them shot dead. That's right.

 

[thraashman]

And, if no one takes care of these kids, you get these mobs.

Oh, wait - you want them shot dead. That's right.

Remember the conservative mantra. Everyone is born with certain inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness ... unless someone who isn't poor wants to take those from you, then if you're trampling over their right to shoot you dead then you no longer have that right to life! DUH!

 

[Schadenfroh]

Remember the conservative mantra. Everyone is born with certain inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness ... unless someone who isn't poor wants to take those from you, then if you're trampling over their right to shoot you dead then you no longer have that right to life! DUH!

If a group of teenage punks try to violently assault me, I hope that someone nearby will intervene by depriving them of their ability to inflict harm. If obtaining order means arming the Spideys of the world with liberal gun / CCW laws to level the playing field against thugs, so be it.

I do not care about what "the man" has taken from these teens or whatever their justifications (if any) for attacking / robbing random people. You do not show your anger or pass your time by assaulting innocent bystanders unprovoked.

 

[Svnla]

........
I do not care about what "the man" has taken from these teens or whatever their justifications (if any) for attacking / robbing random people. You do not show your anger or pass your time by assaulting innocent bystanders unprovoked.

This, especially the bolded/underlined part.

The C-stores/businesses owners did NOT do anything to those thugs/criminals or made them suffer. These businesses owners are just hard working people trying to earn a honest living, which those criminals do not know anything about.

 

[bfdd]

This, especially the bolded/underlined part.

The C-stores/businesses owners did NOT do anything to those thugs/criminals or made them suffer. These businesses owners are just hard working people trying to earn a honest living, which those criminals do not know anything about.

I agree, but this is how it all starts unfortunately. We demand they be persecuted, those in charge respond by trying to regulate/strip more of our rights. The majority of us who are not ok with that will eventually respond. Oh the escalation, how do we prevent it?