Fixing bios

Lalakai

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tried flashing the bios on my mb (GA-770TA-UD3); went to gigabyte and used one of their programs to install the new bios. Now the systems locks up completely once it gets past cmos. tried re-installing the original bios, but the system won't take it. I don't have a bootable floppy or usb drive. What are best options? I did send in request for help from their tech department.........but not holding my breath.
 

tcsenter

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Buy a BIOS chip programmed with the latest BIOS. Probably just got corrupted and won't flash properly now, or the chip has some defective blocks.

I get my BIOS replacement chips from a reseller on Ebay named BIOS Depot. Usually around $13.00 ~ $14.00 delivered, programmed with your preferred BIOS version (as long as the ROM file is available for download).
 

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I don't think a BIOS chip replacement is an option...those look soldered to the board.

I'm not sure what "getting past CMOS" is...do you mean POST? If it's posting you might still be able to use the Q-Flash program by pushing END while it's starting to POST. You said you don't have a flash drive but I don't think it needs to be bootable and they're ridiculously cheap (<$10 even at Best Buy).

You could try a CMOS reset (either removing the battery or shorting the jumper) but I'm not sure how far that'll go. It's odd that the backup hasn't kicked in unless it's a corrupted backup. If that's the case you might need to RMA the board.
 

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yep, already reset cmos, but no effect. I do have a usb drive with the original bios on it, and in cmos i included the usb drive as a bootable option, but it still won't pick up the bios on the usb. in Q-flash i have the option of getting a bios from the floppy-A or hd; it won't let me have the option of getting the bios file from the usb.

as for a bootable usb, when i installed windows 7, it gave me the option of creating a bootable usb drive...........lesson learned.........i didn't create one. had i created one, i could use that to bypass the bad bios and use the bios from the bootable usb.

might not be talking of same thing when you say "Posting", while i say "past cmos". The system will go through the initial phases, finds the bios, ram, cpu ect....at that point i can get into cmos and try the Q-flash option, or attempt to have it get the bios from the usb. It will finish going through that stage, then it hangs up either right away or sometimes will get to the "repair or start normally" screen. When it cycles through the initial stages, i can see that it's detecting and trying to use the bios that i got from Gigabyte.

This is also a clean install on a new HD; finished re-installing W-7 on Saturday. After that install it would start up and run, then lock up or reboot, at random times. Used "BurnIn" to test the components and they all came back good. That's when i opted to flash the bios.
 

Iron Woode

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are you saying the board POSTs just fine?

That you can enter BIOS setup by pressing DEL?

Then the BIOS is fine. Sounds like something else is askew.
 

Lalakai

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yep, i can get in by hitting del at the right time. if it's not the bios, not sure what else it could be. I could try a new install of W-7, but the W-7 that's on there now is less then a week old, on a new hd. Didn't think changing bios would impact the hd, but i'll try it, just to eliminate another possible option.
 

Iron Woode

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yep, i can get in by hitting del at the right time. if it's not the bios, not sure what else it could be. I could try a new install of W-7, but the W-7 that's on there now is less then a week old, on a new hd. Didn't think changing bios would impact the hd, but i'll try it, just to eliminate another possible option.
Flashing a BIOS resets a lot of features.

Maybe on of them isn't set right?

time for basics: is it detecting the HDD(s) correctly? Any other drives?

is the cpu detected correctly? Ram?

perhaps try clicking Load Setup Defaults and save it to see if that helps.
 

Lalakai

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Flashing a BIOS resets a lot of features.

Maybe on of them isn't set right?

time for basics: is it detecting the HDD(s) correctly? Any other drives?

is the cpu detected correctly? Ram?

perhaps try clicking Load Setup Defaults and save it to see if that helps.

good idea....hadn't thought of that. I know it's detecting the ram and hd, but i'll check it closer (when i get home) to see about the cpu. may go through the other items manually and take a look. thanks
 

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good idea....hadn't thought of that. I know it's detecting the ram and hd, but i'll check it closer (when i get home) to see about the cpu. may go through the other items manually and take a look. thanks
I use this same board for my main PC. So far I love it.

Maybe the hdd type (SATA ide, AHCI, raid) isn't set right?

If only you were closer, I could make a house call to help.

:awe:
 

Lalakai

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i put alot of research into this board and from everything i had seen, it looked perfect for my needs. but from day 1, there's been issues. making it worse, is that i have two other systems we use for the family, so i wasn't really pressed to get the bugs out of this one. now that i've sat down and concentrated on it................it's been at least a year since i bought it. oh well
 

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started system up. it properly detected cpu, ram, hd, dvd. once it starts loading windows, it either locks up or reboots.

reloaded fail-safe defaults in cmos..no impact. tried again to have it detect the usb drive..no luck. at this point i have no idea of how to reload the original bios.
 

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started system up. it properly detected cpu, ram, hd, dvd. once it starts loading windows, it either locks up or reboots.

reloaded fail-safe defaults in cmos..no impact. tried again to have it detect the usb drive..no luck. at this point i have no idea of how to reload the original bios.
forget trying to flash the BIOS.

try repairing the windows install with the dvd.
 

Lalakai

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finally got original bios reloaded and reset cmos. Gig tech contacted me and suggested checking ram (one of the first things i had done). Used one, then the other ram stick, making sure that dram power was correct; no change, system still locking up. i'll try another clean install of W7, and also will double check that cmos is correctly setting for my cpu. if that fails, i'll pull the board and send it back. only other alternative is to try flashing with bios F2, as compared to F3 (which caused me more problems).
 

Cogman

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finally got original bios reloaded and reset cmos. Gig tech contacted me and suggested checking ram (one of the first things i had done). Used one, then the other ram stick, making sure that dram power was correct; no change, system still locking up. i'll try another clean install of W7, and also will double check that cmos is correctly setting for my cpu. if that fails, i'll pull the board and send it back. only other alternative is to try flashing with bios F2, as compared to F3 (which caused me more problems).

This ISN'T a bios issue. You wouldn't start loading windows if this was a bios issue (Unless the bios was set, by default, to overclock your CPU).

The fact that you have had problems from day one tells me that it is probably one of 3 components. The Hard drive is corrupted, the Powersupply isn't giving enough juice, or the CPU/Graphics card is overheating. There is also a possibility that the memory is corrupted.

Instability issues are rarely caused by the bios (though they are sometimes caused by it.)
 

Lalakai

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This ISN'T a bios issue. You wouldn't start loading windows if this was a bios issue (Unless the bios was set, by default, to overclock your CPU).

The fact that you have had problems from day one tells me that it is probably one of 3 components. The Hard drive is corrupted, the Powersupply isn't giving enough juice, or the CPU/Graphics card is overheating. There is also a possibility that the memory is corrupted.

Instability issues are rarely caused by the bios (though they are sometimes caused by it.)

changing bios was done to eliminate a potential issue. To eliminate the HD question I have installed a brand new drive to replace the new one that was in the system. to check the graphics card, i replaced the new one i purchased, with an older one from another system. I haven't tried another power supply, considering that the one i purchased was also brand new and supposedly one of the best ones on the market. To check the cpu I ran a program that pushed the cpu to 100% for 15 minutes, and the temps were all good. I used two different programs to check the ram, and both sets of tests came back good; also alternated out the individual sticks. With all of this, my system is still randomly rebooting or locking up.
 

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changing bios was done to eliminate a potential issue. To eliminate the HD question I have installed a brand new drive to replace the new one that was in the system. to check the graphics card, i replaced the new one i purchased, with an older one from another system. I haven't tried another power supply, considering that the one i purchased was also brand new and supposedly one of the best ones on the market. To check the cpu I ran a program that pushed the cpu to 100% for 15 minutes, and the temps were all good. I used two different programs to check the ram, and both sets of tests came back good; also alternated out the individual sticks. With all of this, my system is still randomly rebooting or locking up.
IMHO the board is probably at fault.

although if you can try it, I would use another set of ram modules to make sure your ram is good.

Unfortunately, your board requires they be installed in pairs.
 

Lalakai

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yeah, i'm leaning toward a bad mb also. I may see if i can scrounge a compatible ram stick, just to check that possibility. There's a tech from Gig that is giving me some things to look at, but i'm already looking for a replacement board. As much as i like how Gig mb's looked, not sure i'll go that route again.

edit.......not sure what you mean about the ram being required in pairs, i was okay running them single.
 
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Iron Woode

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yeah, i'm leaning toward a bad mb also. I may see if i can scrounge a compatible ram stick, just to check that possibility. There's a tech from Gig that is giving me some things to look at, but i'm already looking for a replacement board. As much as i like how Gig mb's looked, not sure i'll go that route again.

edit.......not sure what you mean about the ram being required in pairs, i was okay running them single.
My board won't boot unless I have 2 ram modules installed. Not sure why that is. Maybe a BIOS setting?