thanks, i got it sorted out, vista installed with limited functions but i was able to get to the admin account and sort it out.
i did create a strong password on admin, will have lots of questions to come up though.
its fast ill give it that.
would rather not install lots of programs i really wont need, i am behind a router with firewall and vista's firewall.
what i would like to find is a really good CD/DVD burner application that can do 'On the Fly Burning' i had nero 6 ultra and it worked well, dont even mind paying 'but' i will need to back up my DVD collection i am building