*FIXED LINK*Whats faster in the rain? BMW M3 or the new Audi S4?? Answer is over here!

isekii

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
I think audi should come out with a coupe with stiffer body.
For? I think that V8 is a bit to heavy for the car.
might be but a coupe of the Audi S4 would be pretty damn sweet.

I wish they come out with the S3 as well.. I love that car.
If they came out with it I'd trade in the IS300 in a heart beat.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
I think audi should come out with a coupe with stiffer body.
For? I think that V8 is a bit to heavy for the car.
might be but a coupe of the Audi S4 would be pretty damn sweet.

I wish they come out with the S3 as well.. I love that car.
If they came out with it I'd trade in the IS300 in a heart beat.
What is the difference between an S2 and an S3?
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
I think audi should come out with a coupe with stiffer body.
For? I think that V8 is a bit to heavy for the car.
might be but a coupe of the Audi S4 would be pretty damn sweet.

I wish they come out with the S3 as well.. I love that car.
If they came out with it I'd trade in the IS300 in a heart beat.
What is the difference between an S2 and an S3?

where do you get the S2 ? ? The S3 is the hatchback version for the S4 lol

I never heard of the S2 ;)
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
I think audi should come out with a coupe with stiffer body.
For? I think that V8 is a bit to heavy for the car.
might be but a coupe of the Audi S4 would be pretty damn sweet.

I wish they come out with the S3 as well.. I love that car.
If they came out with it I'd trade in the IS300 in a heart beat.
What is the difference between an S2 and an S3?

where do you get the S2 ? ? The S3 is the hatchback version for the S4 lol

I never heard of the S2 ;)
They have an S2..it looks ugly though. Are you sure the S3 is just a hatchback S4? I can't see a V8 being stuffed in there.\

Pic of A2
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: isekii
I think audi should come out with a coupe with stiffer body.
For? I think that V8 is a bit to heavy for the car.
might be but a coupe of the Audi S4 would be pretty damn sweet.

I wish they come out with the S3 as well.. I love that car.
If they came out with it I'd trade in the IS300 in a heart beat.
What is the difference between an S2 and an S3?

where do you get the S2 ? ? The S3 is the hatchback version for the S4 lol

I never heard of the S2 ;)
They have an S2..it looks ugly though. Are you sure the S3 is just a hatchback S4? I can't see a V8 being stuffed in there.\

Pic of A2

LoL Wtf is that i've never see that before it looks like one of those Japanese Anime vehicles.

here is a
linky
 

SuperGroove

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These are S2s, and they are no more ugly than a ugly 240SX:
4 Door S2

Audi S2 Hatch with RS2 Body Kit

They have the highly desireable turbocharged 2.2L I5 powerplant. In racing form, they powered the dominating Audi S1 Rally cars, as well as the Audi Sport Quattro.

Anyways, those dolts who carried out the test shouldn't have expected the S4 to be better. The S4 is heavier, has less power and has the understeering characteristics of AWD. The ONLY benefit that an AWD car would have, is powering out of a turn.

Duh.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: SuperGroove
These are S2s, and they are no more ugly than a ugly 240SX:
4 Door S2

Audi S2 Hatch with RS2 Body Kit

They have the highly desireable turbocharged 2.2L I5 powerplant. In racing form, they powered the dominating Audi S1 Rally cars, as well as the Audi Sport Quattro.

Anyways, those dolts who carried out the test shouldn't have expected the S4 to be better. The S4 is heavier, has less power and has the understeering characteristics of AWD. The ONLY benefit that an AWD car would have, is powering out of a turn.

Duh.

Umm..thats the older S2s. I'm talking about the newer ones in the luink above.
 

SuperGroove

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There is no new S2. There is a A2...but there is no new S2.

The S2 was based off of the B4 platform.
 

Goosemaster

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Once again, why aren't they comparing a top-level m3 t oan rs6?

That thing is a beast...it can be ordered with 400hp stock if I remember correctly...
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: SuperGroove
There is no new S2. There is a A2...but there is no new S2.

The S2 was based off of the B4 platform.
ohh..my mistake.

that older s2 hatch looks mint ...arent they called audi coupe quattros?
 

SuperGroove

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Why not compare the m3 to an rs6?
Because the M3 is a GT, and the RS6 is a sports sedan just like the S4 is. Plus the RS6 is a car generally considered in the same class as the M5, the E55, the XJR and S Type-R. It's a substantially more heavy car than the S4, and the M3.

The M3 really has no competitor in its class.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: SuperGroove
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Why not compare the m3 to an rs6?
Because the M3 is a GT, and the RS6 is a sports sedan just like the S4 is. Plus the RS6 is a car generally considered in the same class as the M5, the E55, the XJR and S Type-R. It's a substantially more heavy car than the S4, and the M3.

The M3 really has no competitor in its class.
Thanks. BUt how does the m3 compare to the rs6? Does it "outclass it" ?:D
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SuperGroove
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Why not compare the m3 to an rs6?
Because the M3 is a GT, and the RS6 is a sports sedan just like the S4 is. Plus the RS6 is a car generally considered in the same class as the M5, the E55, the XJR and S Type-R. It's a substantially more heavy car than the S4, and the M3.

The M3 really has no competitor in its class.
Thanks. BUt how does the m3 compare to the rs6? Does it "outclass it" ?:D
No the RS6 'outclasses' the M3. Think of it this way, what the M5 is to the M3, is what the RS6 is to the S4.
 

SuperGroove

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Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Originally posted by: SuperGroove
There is no new S2. There is a A2...but there is no new S2.

The S2 was based off of the B4 platform.
ohh..my mistake.

that older s2 hatch looks mint ...arent they called audi coupe quattros?
The Coupe Quattro that you refer to is powered by the N/A 7A. The Original Coupe Quattro, aka UR, had the 10VT I5 putting out about 160HP, but took well to modifications.
 

fyleow

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Here is the main problem I see with this comparison. Even before the test is done the editor is already bashing Audi and crowning the M3 king. He is driving both cars and favors the M3 more, obviously his opinions are biased and I'm sure that affects the performance numbers too. It's like changing that monster cable in your audio setup with the $3000 Audioquest. If you think it sounds better it will.

The performance difference is 3%, that's not a very large margin...IMO the conditions aren't even suited to take advantage of Quattro. It helps a little in wet conditions sure, but it's made for snow etc. Redo the test on snowy conditions and it's obvious the S4 will win.

In any case I would gladly take the S4 over the M3 because it is

1) A 4 door sedan and therefore more practical (IMO)

2) Quattro for snowy conditions

3) I am an Audi fanboy :)
 

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